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Salvia 15X extract - 2nd time - Holy Fucking Shit WTF Craziest experience of my life

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i take the hit, sitting on my bed. then i sort of black out--

nothing exists now except me in some non-human non-earth dimension. i am some sort of object. i have no idea who i am, and i'm DEFINATELY not human. i'm not even organic. all of a sudden I come to a startling realization--i'm being pulled/squeezed/warped through parts of this giant colorful machine

every piece of reality is squishing/pushing me! i keep changing into other objects, the universe keeps changing with me. in the most traumatic experience of my life, i keep uncomfortably squeezing into new realms, with no way out of this madness. i keep getting pushed into new dimensions and each time I die. i keep running close to death as 'ME' is an object of one part of the machinery, but the other parts move on to the next zone. no! don't leave me behind! i'm supposed to go with you, stop leaving me!

holy fucking shit WTF is going on? I keep getting left behind, but I have no idea how to convey what was actually happening in words

reality keeps getting overlayed upon by new realities and morphing into a new "configurations" like some giant fractal rubix cube, and each time reality shifts i am some new object left over from the previous reality which was able to remain intact through the reality-shift. i was a gear, i was multiple gears moving in unison, i was part of other contraptions, i was part of walls, i was walking shapes, mathematical symbols, people, rooms, and completely indescribable things all in this magical dimension. i kept getting killed and killed and killed and killed as i was smushed into various segments of its machinery. this plant seriously took me through a nonconsensual maddening 3d mind maze where nothing about my consciousness was stable. during one point, me and a million others in my same predicament (we were all yellow 'L' shapes in this universe) were all attempting to escape the chaos, but only one could get out, and i was the one who escaped to write about this!

-- when i 'come to' i find myself on the floor on my knees having knocked over the space-heater, and the entire experience seemed to have happened during the fall? or maybe i just layed on the floor 'out cold' for a while

then i lay on the bed. whenever i close my eyes, heavily vivid and intricate repeating patterns develop and dance, and my perception of reality is altered so much that I don't know whether I am here in my head or over there with that odd looking CEV? i open my eyes because I don't want to loose reality again, and objects that i see are all coming 'into' me. I feel totally insane, and wonder if I am ever going to be 'normal' again

i have a definite but vague memory of another life who i existed as, before falling into that crazy meat grinder. am i really me? it feels like i was someone else, fell into the salvia grinder, and popped up here as some guy in indiana. and what happened to all those poor other versions of myself that didn't get to escape the chaos? :( there were literally millions of me existing on a giant fractal

i mean, what the fuck? first time i got raped by a plant. funny thing is, like my first (less intense) salvia experience, salvia-space feels completely familiar, as if i used to live there. before my ego fully developed, as an infant perhaps?

link to my first experience

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further remarks

traumatic may not be the best word, because i was completely fine once the effects ended. i'd rather say parts were difficult. however, it was a great trip, in case someone gets the impression that it was a bad one

the re-entry into normal reality was rough. at one point, i was the wall and the ceiling in my room. at another, i came back into reality by literally sliding down colorful tubes and popping up in my room, only to be taken back into salvia-space seconds later. which was real, these tubes and machinery, the alternate life i lived before falling into this madness, or this kid's room in indiana?

my second breakthrough produced similar effects, further elaborated
 
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Oh man, this makes me want to do salvia. I've done it a few times, the first being the most intense. It was INSANE, but it still wasn't close to what you described.
 
^yeah, it is insane, and what's more insane is that what i described in the report doesn't even begin to convey the experience, there's alot you can't put into words
 
I think I should actually pay someone to kick me on a daily basis when I consistently and inexplicably repeat the ignorant act of ignoring salvia - despite my long-found respect for materials that produce experiences that are essentially capable of de/re-constructing the framework of any given human's emotional understanding.

Salvia - you are next. I apologise - I have treated you with practical contempt in my ignorance for long enough!
 
Exactly the reason why Salvia and I aren't on speaking terms: too much, too fast, too heavy, too weird and wild. I have not personally been able to integrate that much beauty, or that special type of beauty.
 
This may seem strange but I find the stronger the salvia I take and the higher the dosage then the easier it is for me to get comfortable with the experience. After I begin taking the dose I always think 'why am I doing this yet again?'. I feel as though I am tresspassing. With lower doses I dwell on this thought throughout the whole experience but with higher doses I am just amazed and so curious, wanting to know everything it can show, I gladly let it give me an arse kicking.
 
That's salvia for you!

It's the fucking cosmic joke this stuff is! I read the first post in this thread and thought 'Holy shit! That it exactly why I don't want to do salvia again any time soon', expecting to scroll down to a host of replies saying the same, or to take it a bit easier on the dose. Second post is you telling us you enjoyed it, and the rest are people saying how much they want the same experience!

That is precisely what the appeal of salvia is. With any other psychedelic you catch yourself thinking "OK, I'm pretty damn high, but I'm not as high as I hoped I might have been", from time to time. Salvia takes you out of this comfort zone, beyond it, to a place where you're higher than you could ever want to be, to a place where you wish you'd never got this high!

To a place where you're never going to wish you were higher. That's why we still smoke salvia - it might scare the shit out of us, but in never disappoints!

The salvia experience is a tough one, it still scares the shit out of me, but if you find it worthwhile, go for it. I certainly look back on my first salvia (first psychedelic in fact, some 6 or 7 years ago, bar weed) experiences as beneficial, despite them having me in mortal terror at the time!

It is definately about getting above the dose where you're just frightened by what's going on though, to the dose where you no longer have a physical body/ego/brain to be frightened about anything. I've been working my way up slowly (very slowly) again from very small doses, after being blasted by a huge dose years ago, and finding myself in that mid-dose quagmire myself. I do find it hard to let go of the fear though, salvia is just so out-there!
 
What I find even funnier is when I go to buy my salvia. I'll go into the shop and there's always someone there curious about salvia. Alot of them think that because you smoke it, it's like weed...poor them if they happen to breakthrough their first time.

I've heard the guy who works in the shop describe it to potential customers. Instead of being honest and saying 'this stuff may just blow the top of your head right off and suck you into another realm' he says this - 'This stuff's is MAAAAAAD....I do it with my mates, and we just laugh our arses off, we can't stop it, we are laughing for ages it is so much fun'.

Now I'll admit that at non breakthrough doses I was laughing hysterically, I could not stop but I didn't expect this, I went looking for the full experience, I wonder how many people throw away most of their vial when they get a breakthrough experience on their first toke when they expect to be 'stoned'.
 
I am absolutely ignorant of salvia.

Is it legal in the US? sounds like it would not be- but I thought I have heard of this being available online or in head shops.

What is a good amount to smoke for first time users?

if taking a small amount, how long does the "trip" last?

thanks in advance. I would love to spend the day researching this but unfortunately I am at work and its just 3 questions.
 
Check Erowid: http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia.shtml

And the Big and Dandy Salvia thread in PD (click the Best of PD page and then the link to the B&D Salvia thread).

It is legal in the US except in a few states, Illinois and some others (New York? I can't remember)

The trip lasts 5-10 minutes regardless of the dose, maybe only 2 or 3 at small doses. The aftereffects last until about T+0:30, and the afterglow can last for around a week or less.
 
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Second post is you telling us you enjoyed it
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heh, i enjoyed it as much as i can enjoy the terrified feeling of being doomed and at the mercy of a giant fractal machine:)

there's just absolutely no way to put it into words

i wonder if i will have the same sort of experience the next time i do it, or if it will be different. check back friday!
 
stereobot said:
I am absolutely ignorant of salvia.

Is it legal in the US? sounds like it would not be- but I thought I have heard of this being available online or in head shops.

What is a good amount to smoke for first time users?

if taking a small amount, how long does the "trip" last?

thanks in advance. I would love to spend the day researching this but unfortunately I am at work and its just 3 questions.
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i detailed all the effects and dose and time/length issues in my first salvia report, which was a medium-intensity trip

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=301292

yeah it's legal. start with one hit of an extract and see how high that gets you, then go from there. in my second salvia experience (this thread) I smoked an entire bowl of 15X extract and just got a buzz. then, sort of frustrated, i packed another bowl and took a giant rip, which is where the trip report starts. apparently i used better technique with the second bowl

some might not recommend an extract for your first time, but my first salvia experiences about a year ago (non-extract) produced nearly nothing (so i don't even count them as having tried salvia, my 'real' first time was last week)
 
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a question to UnfortunateSquid and others more experienced with salvia, how often can you take it? with something like lsd/shrooms, it stops working with weekly use or to a lesser extent even using more than monthly. with salvia is it possible to break through every day (not that i'd want to)?
 
Your experience was almost identical to mine. Most intense experience of my life. Salvia will crush you!! You put that into words very well. I try not to even think about it but i cannot help it because it was the most horrifying yet enlightening thing that has ever happened to me.
 
qwe said:
a question to UnfortunateSquid and others more experienced with salvia, how often can you take it? with something like lsd/shrooms, it stops working with weekly use or to a lesser extent even using more than monthly. with salvia is it possible to break through every day (not that i'd want to)?
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A tolerance to salvia can build up very quickly so taking it every day is not suggestable, I wouldn't want to be taking it every day anyway. My last gram lasted me almost three months, I only take it occasionally and give some free hits to friends.
 
I went on to YouTube and saw a few videos of people taking Salvia. It totally wrecks your motor skills, these people can't even talk or move. It looks horrible, but also really cool.

Does anyone know if that crap is really "bad" for you? do you regain motor skills pretty quickly after the trip? From what I saw people starting coming back to normal around 8 minutes after smoking.
 
Not nearly enough is understood about the mechanisim of Salvia yet or any damage. As soon as I'm out of the 'breakthrough' part I have my motor skills back so very quickly. The good thing about salvia is that although it can whoop yer arse and be scary, the scary part is over within minutes, alot better than a bad acid trip.
 
Whenever I first get to Salvia land I always think, “why the hell did I come here again”? But it is so strange and fascinating it is worth the fear it evokes in me. But I haven't had the urge to go there for a while, my last travels there were just so strange and intense I feel like I need to let them unravel and digest before I go further.
 
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