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Salvia 13x--beyond exp'd--Most intense psychedelic experience of my life...shattering

The Frog

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This particular night of salvia is the second experience in 2 consecutive night. I used salvia 2 nights in a row. And this particular night I had smoked 2 pipefulls of marijuana (Indica) and I was planning to mix it with the Salvia to find out the results...till then the only thing I had mixed with Salvia is psilocybin (Low dose)...

This experience is hard to put into words. Even directly after the experience it was hard to write it down (as I always record things directly after). So I'll do my best. Oh and btw, when you read the last part of the trip keep in mind that I have a big problem with spiders.

I'd say this is level 5 teetering on the edge of level 6 and about to fall in headfirst...some moments of amnesia.

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SALVIA 13x / CANNABIS INDICA

(Completely dark room, no sound no light)

These are words that I wrote in my notebook of "trip reports":

Look, I don't know how to put this into words. Wow. Total mind fuck. Hard to remember the peak. 3-D psychelic images were very detailed and complex.

There was an evil spirit in the room but I wasn't afraid of it. Actually I was talking to him like bad guy and good guy are trying to talk out their problems. Though he did not speak out loud...I couldn't hear him physically but I could hear him in my mind...telepathy...ESP

I remember one part where he sent me into a VERY deep trance with my eyes closed...my body slumped over with my chin resting on my chest...I was flying through a circular room that was maybe a mile in diameter...more like a dome or an arena or something. The walls around me were made up of pink and black squares that changed to blue and black and then out again back to pink. I was soaring or hanging directly in the center looking into a glass ball (don't remember what was in it) of purple coloring. I do know that I found the answer to all existence but I was not permitted to remember as it is doomed to stay in my subconscious vibrating.

When I came out of the trance I smiled at the evil spirit sitting next to me now on my bed. He said to me "can't remember it can you?! thats the way it goes."

I said to him in defiance "Oh yeah you think thats funny?! Why don't I send myself back in and find it. I just might."

I closed my eyes again and prepared to go extremely deep. In order to find this place that I was in with the purple glass ball I had to find my way thru a maze of psychedelic scenes and insane visual images. Going from scene to scene and image to image is like changing channels. The first was a digital world where 7 blue faces were motionless. Their heads started to split open slowly and then they suddenly dropped to the ground shattering into crazy peices...then I was falling through a hole and then through 8 orange-ish brown blocks that were shattered by my head as I fell through them...I suddenly came to a stop in mid air facing the ninth block (this scene rememinded me of that film "The Cell") This room was rectangular and covered with brown and orange and pink and black...television screens on as big as the walls (mile wide/high). On each wall. Another scene I came to was a world of giants. I was being held in one's hand and I saw the giant face come into view and I quickly changed the channel into a new scene...a totally black background. There was the outline of a woman drawn with lines changing color from neon pinks and greens, and blues. Flashing. She was just an outline but I could still see her eyes. I then see the northern lights coming down on top of me layering me in their beauty. A-E-I-O-U flashes in the sky on ancient banners. I then shot thru the stars at light speed and passed by planet "274" (I interpret that to be related to the date of my death)

I then lost myself in the stars and don't remember much of anything for a while

When I came back to myself, I found myself in the room that I was in before but was unable to approach the purple glass ball because something was pulling me back down.

When I came out of the trance, I looked at the evil spirit and he laughed. I said "I was that close...but I couldn't get it."

Suddenly a birrage of strange and sometimes horrible images started flashing in my mind. Most I did not remember afterwards. I felt like my mind had been torn down and deconstructed and then built back up again in a new image. Blown away into the winds of oblivion...rising again out of the ashes like a Phoenix.

Now other spirits had joined myself and the evil one in the room. One of them I saw plain as day: a green porcelin face that came at me in the dark and then moved up and down. I had the feeling that I crossed the thresh-hold and ventured into new unexplored territory...moved on to a new level of understanding not seen before...I feel like a new person (even now after the experience)

Much after this I don't recall.

Then I came to and found the evil spirit still sitting there whispering into my ear "the journey is far from over...aren't you the one who said you wanted to see everything...the whole universe, good and bad...well...here it is...let me know if you're having fun yet."

I felt terror creeping up on me as the spirit was suddenly gone. But as it turned out, he had changed form into tiny spiders. He had read my thoughts and found that I hate spiders. Slowly I felt one mess with my leg...crawled up on me and I brushed it away. Then came 2 spiders which I swatted at in the darkness...then 4...then 6...then they started at my arms...

I became completely terrified and flipped out as I leapt out of bed and turned on the lights and the TV. This experience needed to end immediately. With the lights on I searched my bed and surrounding area and found no spiders...I found nothing. But I was still horrified and freaking out more and more.

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This is where I end the experience because my connection with these other dimensions were broken when I turned on the light and jolted myself out of bed in sheer panic and terror. I have never been so scared from any trip that I freak out so much and damn near lose my mind completely while in another world...if you die in your dreams you die for real. This experience was by far the most intense of my life. I've never been that deep inside the universal mind and the subconscious soul. I feel I have however entered a new level of power and understanding with Lady Salvia...she saw fit to move me into the next step. Naturally it may be a bit terrifying but necessary. I feel like I've reached a new plateau and will continue to journey into the night.
 
The Frog said:
I couldn't hear him physically but I could hear him in my mind...telepathy...ESP

The 'ESP' communication is pretty much all I do on salvia now

The Frog said:
I do know that I found the answer to all existence but I was not permitted to remember as it is doomed to stay in my subconscious vibrating.
The Frog said:
When I came out of the trance I smiled at the evil spirit sitting next to me now on my bed. He said to me "can't remember it can you?! thats the way it goes."

This is strange to me, as Salvia was exceptionally clear about the meaning of existance with me and my friend mike. This makes me wonder if salvia/your mind isn't playing a game with you.

The Frog said:
I said to him in defiance "Oh yeah you think thats funny?! Why don't I send myself back in and find it. I just might."
This is a funny similarity between your trips and mine, the casual way of talking the entites.

The Frog said:
Fantasy Sci/fi voyage...
I feel I have however entered a new level of power and understanding with Lady Salvia...she saw fit to move me into the next step. Naturally it may be a bit terrifying but necessary. I feel like I've reached a new plateau and will continue to journey into the night.

I always wonder about these salvia trips people have that are very realistic/ like they see entities of good and evil and there are struggles and voyages and things.

I can't help but feel that that aspect of the trip is chaff/nonsense, like a dream that is exciting but doesn't mean anything.

And as for the power/understanding, in all my experiences there has been only one level of power, and it remained constant- the power of a leaf on a storm's winds or the power of a grain of dust in a mite's belly. The understanding remains constant too- every seeming level is actually just another view angle on the same reality.


Have you ever had a salvia trip where you went in with a quiet mind, and when visions came you just relaxed and they were gone? When I started approaching salvia that way, much of the power and the fury left. I went through four trips or so where I smoked my bowlful of 10x, sat down with myself, and went through the whole "trip" conscious of every moment but without experiencing anything other than ordinary reality with my eyes closed and calm breathing.

Since then Salvia has just been another set of thoughts in my mind. If I want I can delve into them and have discourse with an entity seemingly apart from myself. If I want I can see a fantastic realm, often starting from that dome type place. Or if I want I can open my eyes and be back in this reality. It feel strange, but I'm functional enough to hold a lucid conversation.

The angels, deamons, doors, and dark crystals of the salvia realm seem to just be symbols from the mind, more garbage to be thrown out with the rest of society's programming.
 
Hypnic_JerK said:
The 'ESP' communication is pretty much all I do on salvia now




This is strange to me, as Salvia was exceptionally clear about the meaning of existance with me and my friend mike. This makes me wonder if salvia/your mind isn't playing a game with you.


This is a funny similarity between your trips and mine, the casual way of talking the entites.



I always wonder about these salvia trips people have that are very realistic/ like they see entities of good and evil and there are struggles and voyages and things.

I can't help but feel that that aspect of the trip is chaff/nonsense, like a dream that is exciting but doesn't mean anything.

And as for the power/understanding, in all my experiences there has been only one level of power, and it remained constant- the power of a leaf on a storm's winds or the power of a grain of dust in a mite's belly. The understanding remains constant too- every seeming level is actually just another view angle on the same reality.


Have you ever had a salvia trip where you went in with a quiet mind, and when visions came you just relaxed and they were gone? When I started approaching salvia that way, much of the power and the fury left. I went through four trips or so where I smoked my bowlful of 10x, sat down with myself, and went through the whole "trip" conscious of every moment but without experiencing anything other than ordinary reality with my eyes closed and calm breathing.

Since then Salvia has just been another set of thoughts in my mind. If I want I can delve into them and have discourse with an entity seemingly apart from myself. If I want I can see a fantastic realm, often starting from that dome type place. Or if I want I can open my eyes and be back in this reality. It feel strange, but I'm functional enough to hold a lucid conversation.

The angels, deamons, doors, and dark crystals of the salvia realm seem to just be symbols from the mind, more garbage to be thrown out with the rest of society's programming.

Try to get some 20X, you will be unconcious the whole time.
 
I dunno, I've smoked a couple grams of 20x and the effects dont seem to be too different from smoking twice as much 10x.

edit: I've been smoking salvia for 4 years and I've tried nearly every vendor, standardized and normal.
 
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