Safety of withdrawal aid combo?

[Cee Hawkins]

Hey guys I need some advice. I'm trying to come off of a 4 year opiate habit. I'm going to make the jump this weekend. I've been through withdrawal dozens of times but have never made it all the way through. I'm hoping to this time. I haven't tapered down very far and I'm jumping from about 160mg Insufflated Oxymorphone daily. It's gonna be brutal. Last time I did this 16mg of sub didn't do shit for me. This is what I'm planning on using this time.

600mg Lyrica
1mg Clonazepam
1mg Alprazolam
0.1 of Clonidine

& maybe 4mg of sub starting on the second day tapering down through the 6th-7th day.

I plan on taking the above combo 2 to 3 times a day for the first 3 days and then just going with the sub for a few more days.

I'm interested in opinions on the danger level of this combo. How safe or unsafe is this? I get terrible terrible full-body RLS and high blood pressure which are the main symptoms I'm trying to keep at bay.

 

[phatass]

thats a HUGE tolerance.. the most painless way would be to do a methadone taper... coz even 32mg subs (the ceiling dose) won't touch your tolernce

a methadone taper will take probably between 6 months and a year, depending on how quick you can taper without discomfort...

you can try to cold turkey with the meds you have, i would be very impressed if you cold turkeyed that amount... it would be great, i don't want to put you down, i just think that the withdrawls will be unbearable

but thats just my opinion

 

[Pchild]

thats a HUGE tolerance.. the most painless way would be to do a methadone taper... coz even 32mg subs (the ceiling dose) won't touch your tolernce

a methadone taper will take probably between 6 months and a year, depending on how quick you can taper without discomfort...

you can try to cold turkey with the meds you have, i would be very impressed if you cold turkeyed that amount... it would be great, i don't want to put you down, i just think that the withdrawls will be unbearable

but thats just my opinion

Well, no this wouldn't be for me.

First 160mg of Opana is a good size dose, but not blow 'em out of the park, big. I have came off of it before and the dose was something like 100mg with another 100-150mg of OC for good measure. I can't say the WDs were any worse than straight OC, which I have WDed off of, from 75-320mgs. Obviously no fun, but doable, none the less.

I would not switch to Methadone, unless I would be happy with maintenance. And then God help anyone that CTs off of 'done. While I haven't personally, I have read it can take weeks.

You left off the most important med of all. Imodium is damn key to any opiate WD. It is an opiate that does not pass through the blood brain barrier and it helps immensely. Take way more than directed. I have taken 10-12 at a time. Don't worry about constipation, believe me.

Finally take lots of showers and keep your mind active. Don't just lay around looking at that second hand..During WDs, I believe time stops, so I NEVER look at that clock. Get your mind in a good frame. Tell yourself you CAN do this and that it's something worth doing. It's worth the pain you will go through. First 3 days are the toughest part, with #2 being an absolute HELL. Many people make it 2 days and then give in. But they were about over the worst.

I really wish you the very best. If you need to talk, I'll be around.

Best

 

[slowdive]

Good luck with this. If you are seriously going CT, benzos (as you included in your list) is very helpful.

As for the safety of your drug combo. I don't know. I would probably just use one benzo instead of both the Xanax and Klonopin.

Clonodine will be helpful for you as well. And I've heard good things about Lyrica. You will be using a lot of depressants though, so be careful and start with low doses and stick to one benzo if you can. Watch out as benzos can cause physical dependency very quickly.

As poster above mentioned, Imodium is a MUST. It is an opioid. It may not cross the BBB, but as far as your bowels will be concerned, you're still on the dope. In higher doses some report that Imodium actually lessens some of the physical aspects of withdrawal.

Good luck.
Stay busy if you can. And take warm showers or bath. It really helps.

 

[Cee Hawkins]

Pchild- You're a badass bro! You just gotta let us all know how heavier of a user you are huh? What is it with the dick measuring around here? I do not get it.

Thanks for the advice guys. Yeah I know about the Immodium, hot water, etc. This isn't my first trip to the beach. I've been down this road many a times. I'm just concerned with the safety level of combining these CNS depressants w/ the Clonidine in particular.

I'm actually also wondering about the safety of combining high doses of a Magnesium supplement (for RLS) as well. I've read that it can affect blood pressure meds. Anyone know aout that?