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Heroin Safety Dose Question

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Dawglaw

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I am in SE Asia with a bunch of friends. Last night someone bought "opium powder" which I am going to assume for safety sake is probably heroin. It is white and chunky and does not taste like cocaine. (I have no idea what heroin or opium tastes like).

Almost all of us are opiate noobs but we want to get wierd in the jungle. Feeling responsible, I have been the buzz kill and have been not letting anyone take any lines until we know it won't kill us. I have heard the stories of drunk backpackers racking up a few fat lines of what they thought was blow only for it to be super strong opiates that turned them blue and sent them home in a bag.

I took a very small (im talking like 30 grains of salt) test bump about 30 min ago and nothing happened. I Definitely don't want to over do it and have no problems with taking my time.

Any advice how to proceed?
 
Dawglaw said:
I took a very small (im talking like 30 grains of salt) test bump about 30 min ago and nothing happened. I Definitely don't want to over do it and have no problems with taking my time.

Any advice how to proceed?
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Yeah, take increasingly large amounts VERY SLOWLY (starting from what did nothing) one person only. Once you reach the plateau of effects you want, split that dose in a quarter or even less and give a buddy some to try.

It would probably also help if you're in a major city near a real hospital so if you fuck up (say this is badly mixed china white and you accidentally ingest a few MG of fentanyl) you can get some narcan in you, and your buddies are sober so they can deal with it.

Honestly, if you aren't the most prudent and cautious possible, with no tolerance and an unknown substance and no experience with this substance, things could go bad - fast. Go slow. Be careful. Be safe.
 
Good deal, thanks man.

Prior to the trip I actually went and got narcan training and have 2 vials and the nose adapter. I figured if we get drunk and do some stupid shit it's way better to be safe than sorry. Especially in a place with substandard medical care. The only thing I wish I had was a test kit and a MG scale but cest la vie. We are being really cautious. I think there is a way to have fun while staying safe. That's what BL is for. Thanks again.
 
Dawglaw said:
Good deal, thanks man.

Prior to the trip I actually went and got narcan training and have 2 vials and the nose adapter. I figured if we get drunk and do some stupid shit it's way better to be safe than sorry. Especially in a place with substandard medical care. The only thing I wish I had was a test kit and a MG scale but cest la vie. We are being really cautious. I think there is a way to have fun while staying safe. That's what BL is for. Thanks again.
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Uh, damn that is pretty prepared. Just be safe! You can't un-die.

With the narcan, if you're the guinea pig, make sure your friends are well aware on how it is administered and what to do.
 
Try to stay away from alcohol. I saw you say you might be getting drunk.
Pick one or the other for safety. lolwhatzdrugs gave you pretty good advice.

Also, make sure your friends know how to administer Narcan, its not gonna help you if you overdose.
 
Wow I am jealous, I really would love to visit that area and sample the local "cuisine", so to speak.

It isn't reasonable to just assume what you got was heroin, it very well could be opium powder. As a matter of fact if that little amount did nothing, then it most likely is as advertised. I mean wouldn't it make sense to advertise it as something stronger than it actually is (therefore more expensive), than something weaker (less expensive). Now if you had bought what was advertised as heroin I would question it more than opium powder. The effects will be very similar, since you're getting high off morphine if it is truly just opium in powder form and a heroin high is the same as a morphine high but with a rush.

Also for HR sake be aware of the possible allergic reactions to morphine and other opiates in opium. Possibly have benadryl or other antihistamine available or an epi pen. Morphine and codeine are the 2 opiates give medically that cause the most allergic reactions. Plus, realize what might get one person only a little buzzed could kill another person when dealing with no tolerance. So just cause you did so much doesn't mean its opens the door for everyone else to do the same, everyone should take it slow and find their happy place.
 
Update: we are all still alive. Turns out the stuff was most likely china white. I did not like it at all. I didn't get that high off a tiny dose and when I took a little bit more I just felt like shit and puked.

The good news? I'm never touching heroin again. Thanks for the help.
 
Dawglaw said:
Update: we are all still alive. Turns out the stuff was most likely china white. I did not like it at all. I didn't get that high off a tiny dose and when I took a little bit more I just felt like shit and puked.

The good news? I'm never touching heroin again. Thanks for the help.
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Well china white is fentanyl, a not particularly euphoric drug, though a powerful analgesic. If it had been opium or morphine powder, I bet you would have had a better experience. I found morphine to be way more euphoric in a certain way than oxycodone/methadone/hydrocodone.
 
Yeah, who knows what you actually got. It could not have been H at all.

I'd use more caution in the future if I were you ingesting a substance in such shoddy circumstances. If you can't get it from a trusted reliable source... you're taking an even bigger risk.
 
Dawglaw said:
I am in SE Asia with a bunch of friends. Last night someone bought "opium powder" which I am going to assume for safety sake is probably heroin. It is white and chunky and does not taste like cocaine. (I have no idea what heroin or opium tastes like).

Almost all of us are opiate noobs but we want to get wierd in the jungle. Feeling responsible, I have been the buzz kill and have been not letting anyone take any lines until we know it won't kill us. I have heard the stories of drunk backpackers racking up a few fat lines of what they thought was blow only for it to be super strong opiates that turned them blue and sent them home in a bag.

I took a very small (im talking like 30 grains of salt) test bump about 30 min ago and nothing happened. I Definitely don't want to over do it and have no problems with taking my time.

Any advice how to proceed?
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try putting a tiny bit on foil and heat it up from the bottom of the foil with a lighter,if it melts you can smoke all you want and dear god you are in for some buzz!!!!
 
He was in SE Asia. I think we can assume what he bought was most likely neither fentanyl (proximity and availability) or opium powder (it was white powder). It most likely was heroin, though nothing is certain.

OP fair play to you on your harm reduction methods. Sve lives.

It takes a while to get opiates for some people. Some people don't like them at all. Some people love them. You're probably (most likely :)) better off not doing it again.
 
Tryptamite said:
He was in SE Asia. I think we can assume what he bought was most likely neither fentanyl (proximity and availability) or opium powder (it was white powder). It most likely was heroin, though nothing is certain.

OP fair play to you on your harm reduction methods. Sve lives.

It takes a while to get opiates for some people. Some people don't like them at all. Some people love them. You're probably (most likely :)) better off not doing it again.
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No shit, if most junkies took this guys precautions there would be a lot less dead addicts. Honestly narcan should be available to EVERYONE. We also need more state Good Samaritan laws when it comes to drug overdose I.E. immunity from prosecution for small amounts of drugs if you need to call an ambulance.
 
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