Misc Safest gabaergic/sedative for once or twice a week use?

[deruyityn]

Safest gabaergic/sedative/hypnotic for once or twice a week use?

Kratom is my goto at the moment but it doesnt not really cover my bases therapeutically for anxiety and sociability. It is great for depression I must admit so long as I get the dose right of a nice sedating strain. Also I can only take it once a week really so Im left out in the cold for the other 6 days. Not that I want something for EVERY day but 2 or 3 would give me enough coverage I think to gain good ground. Please no holier than thou lectures about 'meditation, exercise diet etc'.

Mulungu looked so amazing but the relation to curare and others poisons really freaks me out. I know it has a long history of use but still as a paranoid guy it set off alarms bells to make me really hesitant to try it.

Phenibut seems too steep on the physical addiction such that Id always be feeling nervous about that.

GHB actually looks great doing more reading on it. Looks very benign and doesnt quickly build tolerance or physical addiction. Shame its illegal tho as that mostly rules it out as being practical for a lifestyle regimen.

Kava kava is banned in uk which means it cost HUGE amount to get it imported due to its weight. So not worth it for the soso effect it gives.

From all my google searching I think Ive sniffed out the likely contenders, so I gess Im shit out of luck unless I compromise and decide to take my chances with one of the above. I have wanted to avoid stronger things like benzoes due to obvious physical addiction risks.

Mulungu seems safest provided it doesnt cause a paralyitic death! but that shit really scares me to think how closely related and if maybe I had a negative reaction. I could imagine when it took effect Id constantly be getting scared that I may become paralysed. At least with other downers youd probably be unconscious before you died so you wouldnt be aware of it. I have no social circle or anyone I could ask to be a sitter just in case.

 

[yteek]

I use Phenibut twice a week, usually, while I don't know about how safe, as it does have cons and side effects occasionally, but, you're not going to be physically dependent with two days of use.

People that run into issues, are the same ones that see all the stern messages to not use more then twice a week and to not go into taking over 4 grams what not, then they go on to the forums to talk about how they fucked themselves over. You just gotta respect it and know that treading into abuse is not going to provide you with more benefit.

 

[deruyityn]

So have you never ended up suffering even little bits of withdrawal? And what are your doses like? How does it compare to kratom in terms of mental addiction to its pelasant effects? Cos like you say there are also alot of 'tales of woe' of how 'evil' kratom is yet Ive found it probably the least compulsive thing ive ever tried. If Ive taken a little too much I get a hangover and that is enough to make me not want to do any more since Im kind of a workaholic so like to be in top form when i wake.

I would still prefer to now I had some leeway so I can feel I dont constantly have to be looking over my shoulder. Anxiety is one of my main issues and Im worried about rebound anxiety with something like that.

I use Phenibut twice a week, usually, while I don't know about how safe, as it does have cons and side effects occasionally, but, you're not going to be physically dependent with two days of use.

People that run into issues, are the same ones that see all the stern messages to not use more then twice a week and to not go into taking over 4 grams what not, then they go on to the forums to talk about how they fucked themselves over. You just gotta respect it and know that treading into abuse is not going to provide you with more benefit.

 

[yteek]

I find it just as addictive as alcohol, which is not really addictive to me.

If you can go a weekend with a couple of cocktails and not have it haunt you into the week, you can probably grab your balls and manage phenibut without issue.

The amount of bullshit I see with phenibut is unreal, two days is not giving these peoples physical dependence and withdrawals, side effects, more then possible, but is a far-cry from the reality that is physical dependence.

Phenibut has been a god send for me, I have anxiety myself, and to be quite frank I live for the two days I can make use of it.