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safe spacing between 25i-NBOMe trips?

jerseybrah

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what is an appropriate wait time between 25i trips?

ive read conflicting things where some say tolerance builds quick, where others say you can redose 1-3 days after and have no tolerance problem
 
7 days is for most other psychedelics and is more about tolerance than the time you need to integrate an experience which is typically much longer (2-3 weeks up to months, even).
For NBOMe drugs it's more like 14 days to begin with, this is indicated by several people who tried it and reported on it.
 
^ I'd have to diagree solipsis. I have more experience than most people around here with this compound, and I've found 7 days to be completely ample.

You are right however when it comes to the integration aspect.
 
7 days and no noticeable development of tolerance and cross-tolerance? Hmm, maybe you have a lot of experience with it but that does not necessarily mean it's average. Then again you may be completely right about that being normal. I tend to believe users like Erny more because not only does he have extensive experience with this as well as a number of other NBOMe's but I think he also has a lot of second-hand experience to trust on.

I myself don't know, my experience is only with 25C and 25D and limited.
 
^ I understand where you're coming from. One of the main reasons I am saying this is because of my most recent experience with this chemical (dosed 7 days after my prior 25i trip), however it was also combined with a small amount of aMT. I plan on writing up a trip report today. I thought after 5 years I was an experienced psychonaut...HA!

Death and rebirth, communicating with frogs and nature, experiencing the afterlife, shedding all my clothes and running through nature at 2am...

A trip report is absolutely in order.

Back on topic though! lol.
 
Sounds very interesting to read more about! Do go on writing up a report, yes :D
What about the side-effects though? I found even ~600 ug of 25D (IIRC) to cause unacceptably cold feet, sounds weird right? But yeah it just kept me annoyed and uncomfortable, it was that bad. Vasoconstriction it must be. But I also think I am abnormally sensitive to it because of chiblains / mild Raynauds - which by the way is chronic drug use induced I think, at least partially.
Can you compare 25I to 25D? Because 25I-NBOMe and 25I-NBMD are ones on my list to be trying.

25I + AMT sounds potentially unsafe because of my point of perspective if you understand what I mean. What were your doses and did you experience even remotely worrisome peripheral effects with 25I alone or together with AMT?
 
25i is the only n-bomb I've had the pleasure of trying. It seems to garner the most positive attention which is why I decided to try it vs. the other ones.

I took 2.5mg of 25i and 10mg of aMT.

Ah, the side effects. Vasoconstriction is definitely a bitch. I always feel very cold on the come up, and this trip was exceedingly unpleasant in this regard. I realized after about half an hour from taking both chems that I may have been a bit too cavalier with my life. It usually takes around 2 hours for visuals to really start manifesting, but this time they were hitting me in extreme fashion after only a short time. I got out of bed and was looking around and got very frightened at that point, everything was very choppy, like in those re-enactments you see on crime shows. Not sure if that's the greatest analogy. I even got out some benzos and almost took them because of how scary the intensity was, and I'm almost never one to go this route.

I literally, and I do mean literally, thought I was dead for a good 3-4 hours during this trip. Not the kind of dead where you're laying down having an out of body experience, I was walking around outside and thought I was dead, ie a ghost, a soul wandering the Earth. I could not feel my heart beating, and the unwavering intensity of the visuals assured me that this was no trip - this was the afterlife, the 'other', everything was so wispy and in constant motion. It was beautiful, but terrifying. It was so cold. I mourned all the friends & family I would never be able to see or talk to again. I thought of all the life lessons I had learned and did my best to expend the last bit of my soul's energy into releasing this learning and love into the world before I left it permanently. There was even a point where I laid down on the ground and had these electric sensations; I felt I was being defibrillated. I could see my blood vessels surge with each jolt, and vaguely see the faces of loved ones around me desperately hoping I would come back, but I had gone too far, I was too close to the light.


I don't wanna totally derail this topic but I will definitely write a trip report today.
 
I've noticed for 2-3 days after doing 25I that I feel a bit depressed and lethargic. Not as bad as the suicide Tuesdays from MDxx compounds, but bad enough that it can interfere with work and stuff. So I think the 2-week rule is a good idea with this substance.
 
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