Safe Combo´s

[Herkku]

Hi to all!

So I´ve been wondering about some interaction for awhile. So I´m using some herbals in my daily regimen(links are to exact products):

-Alpha GPC 1200mg/day
-Lion´s Mane x 4 tablets
-Bacopa Monnieri x 4 capsules -> so bacopa goes with 4x higher dosage than recommended in the product label
-CoQ10 600mg/day
-And occasionally Irwin Naturals Gingko Smart x 2 capsules

So these seem to go together quite nicely and without problems. Also I usually take with these a strong cup of white tea, ginger tea and coffee. And all these seem to be fine. If I´m wrong, please enlighten me.

But the one´s I´m not so sure(if mixed with all the previous):
-rhodiola rosea
-amphetamine
-tramadol
-cannabis
-l-theanine
-mdma
-cubensis
-lsd
-dmt

The way I have speculated this personally is to not mix tramadol with mdma or amphetamine. Also I´ve been careful with mixing Irwin Natural´s Gingko with mdma or amphetamine. Rhodiola is MAO-I but a weak one so I have mixed it many times with everything.. But is it safe? How about is there some cases in which should drop my basic regimen for the day? Any other scary looking combinations?

Mdma, lsd, dmt, shrooms, tramadol and amphetamine are not something that I use everyday. And the only way I combine these is mdma+lsd/shrooms.

Anyway I´m well aware of the fact that I´m sort of living in a grey area with these. Given that there is a lot of variables and everyone is unique in their way to react. However I have longish history of hard drug abuse with idiotic combinations and I have never had any other complications than one epileptic seizure from a single dose of 2000 mg of tramadol(i know..). That´s all past now and today I´m in a top shape which is propably a big plus when considering safety of mentioned combinations. Of course I´ve been a lucky fool and you never know when you run out of luck. So to be clear, I very much appreciate health and it certainly goes first. I have lately been stressing a lot about the safety of mixing different herbals and especially about mixing them with synthetic drugs. So what should I be thinking about all of this?


E: Let´s add orphenadrine to list alongside with some info. So I´m using tramadol+orphenadrine for hard stretching routines I like to take every now and then because it makes stretching feel like I´m in a heaven and every fiber is rubbed by angels. I haven´t used neither of them for months now. But today I took 200 mg of tramadol and 100 mg of orphenadrine(norflex). I also took my normal regimen. So stuff that I have put in to my system today so far:

-Alpha GPC 600mg
-bacopa monnieri 500 mg(50% bacoside content)
-Super lions mane x 2 tablets
-Gingko Smart x only 1 capsule
-vitamins
-white tea
-ginger tea
-coffee
-tramadol
-orphenadrine

Obviously can´t take ´em out of my system anymore but should I be taking this stack in future? I would love to do this like twice in a month or so but should I only use tramadol and orphenadrine on their own or is it ok to take them with normal regimen? And what exactly happens when you mix high quality coline source like alpha gpc with anticholinergic drug like orphenadrine?

 

[MrRoot]

I would be more concerned about what does the daily use of those herbals do to my liver than mixing those others with them and I won't ever take any herbal supplements daily.

I guess from you name that you live in Finland? Did you managed to find any good shrooms on your area? I found a huge spot of psilocybins and the weather conditions have been perfect shrooms in general here.

 

[MrRoot]

How much orphenadrine and was it taken as Dolan without doing CWE?

E: ah. Should have read the E: part too

That amount of Orphenadrine should go fine with the others.

 

[MrRoot]

Also actually acetylcholine with anticholinergic drugs actually prevents cholinergic syndrome from happening if we presume that acetylcholine from pills actually get absorbed well...

 

[Herkku]

I would be more concerned about what does the daily use of those herbals do to my liver than mixing those others with them and I won't ever take any herbal supplements daily.

I guess from you name that you live in Finland? Did you managed to find any good shrooms on your area? I found a huge spot of psilocybins and the weather conditions have been perfect shrooms in general here.

Thank you for your reply MrRoot! Very calming to hear your opinion on this matter. When you mentioned possible liver toxicity, how should I minimize the risk? And where to draw a line? In my understanding lions mane, bacopa and alpha gpc are all extremely well tolerated in most humans. So what about if I drop Irwins Gingko product and go on with only those three? Should I take some blood tests regularly or something? I can easily take some if needed. Or what about some doctor who has specialized to something that would make him qualified to check all the possible dangers, current health status and give some feedback on this? And what line of special doctor should I be seeking?

Well guessed! Yeah I did find some and bought even more. Quality is superb this year!

What does the "Dolan" and CWE stand for?

 

[MrRoot]

Hi,
Gingko is the most dubious of those but if the amounts are normal it shouldn't cause any problems but.

You can get liver tests from your own Dr. just by asking them and telling him you are concerned about them due the supplements.

Liver pain radiates to right shoulder and if you feel like someone is stabbing there you should take that as a warning and get them checked.

I have mine checked every six months as I have had before an adverse reaction to a prescribed drug before which caused some liver problems until they figured out it was because that particular drug.

I happened to listen to a YLE radio talkshow about health few weeks ago and there were some doctors talking about that there are currently not enough pharmacists or doctors who could understand what each supplement does and it is often hard to guess if it would be ok to take some drugs with this or that supplement.

Currently it is left for patient to guess how different supplements react to meds.

Dolan is a drug that contains orphenadrine and paracetamol and CWE is Cold Water Extraction which refers to a method for taking paracetamol out of pill that contains something else too like Panacod which has codeine and paracetamol.

I just totally forgot the Norflex since I have used to think that it comes in IV solution only which is quite hard to get.

And happy shrooming for you too