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Russo-Ukrainian War v. World War 3?

So the Azov regiment is not national socialist neo-nazis?

I think you didn't get the sense of my post.
It was ironic.
Not only Azov are nazis, there are a lot of nazis in Ukraine, even at the highest level. Also the communist party is the second one in Russia.

But Ukraine is not a nazi country, no self- respecting nazi country would be a NATO puppet like they are.
Russia is not communist, as a communist regime would never allow all those billonaires to exist and rule the country's economy.
Both Ukraine and Russia are basically the same historically poor people living under incredible hard conditions and ruled by utter corrupt and murderous leaders, because buying that Zelensky is any better than Putin is a terribly big and dangerous mistake.

Western countries never had to get involved in that shit, as it is not a western matter.

Nobody helped Irak when the country was brutally invaded for no reason and a million people were killed. I was living in a muslim country back them and I remember fully well the horror of the people seeing the nonsense of that crime. Bush jr, Powell, Rumsfeld and Condoleeza Rice deserved a trial for war crimes, but only Saddam had to endure it.
Nobody helped Yugoslavia when Germany and Austria took revenge on it for the two World Wars they lost in the Balkans, and nobody helped Serbia when NATO criminally bombed it to steal its Kosovo province only to build there the biggest NATO camp of the world. Clinton, Madeleine Allbright, general Wesley Clark and Javier Solana (general secretary of NATO) got away with it. "Penal Justice" was only for Milosevic and other serbians.

If those countries were invaded and their people killed by a far superior enemy and nobody helped them, why should us support Ukraine now??
Because let's help them to kill russians, the more the better!! No matter if a country has to be destroyed, no matter how many young people have to die...
At the end of the day who cares about Ukraine's fate? Who cares about peace?
We have the chance of killing thousands of russians! what else can matter...

Fuck, it makes me so sick
 
I think you didn't get the sense of my post.
It was ironic.
Not only Azov are nazis, there are a lot of nazis in Ukraine, even at the highest level. Also the communist party is the second one in Russia.

But Ukraine is not a nazi country, no self- respecting nazi country would be a NATO puppet like they are.
Russia is not communist, as a communist regime would never allow all those billonaires to exist and rule the country's economy.
Both Ukraine and Russia are basically the same historically poor people living under incredible hard conditions and ruled by utter corrupt and murderous leaders, because buying that Zelensky is any better than Putin is a terribly big and dangerous mistake.

Western countries never had to get involved in that shit, as it is not a western matter.

Nobody helped Irak when the country was brutally invaded for no reason and a million people were killed. I was living in a muslim country back them and I remember fully well the horror of the people seeing the nonsense of that crime. Bush jr, Powell, Rumsfeld and Condoleeza Rice deserved a trial for war crimes, but only Saddam had to endure it.
Nobody helped Yugoslavia when Germany and Austria took revenge on it for the two World Wars they lost in the Balkans, and nobody helped Serbia when NATO criminally bombed it to steal its Kosovo province only to build there the biggest NATO camp of the world. Clinton, Madeleine Allbright, general Wesley Clark and Javier Solana (general secretary of NATO) got away with it. "Penal Justice" was only for Milosevic and other serbians.

If those countries were invaded and their people killed by a far superior enemy and nobody helped them, why should us support Ukraine now??
Because let's help them to kill russians, the more the better!! No matter if a country has to be destroyed, no matter how many young people have to die...
At the end of the day who cares about Ukraine's fate? Who cares about peace?
We have the chance of killing thousands of russians! what else can matter...

Fuck, it makes me so sick
Thank you for your very detailed reply. I honestly thought your first reply was serious, not sarcastic, are you from Ukraine? What is really going on that the Western media ignores? Who are the neo-nazis that are leaders in the Ukraine government, Zelensky?

I agree with you about Iraq, Serbia, and the Yugoslav wars.
 
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Thank you for your very detailed reply. I honestly thought your first reply was serious, not sarcastic, are you from Ukraine? What is really going on that the Western media ignores? Who are the neo-nazis that are leaders in the Ukraine government, Zelensky?

I agree with you about Iraq, Serbia, and the Yugoslav wars.
No, I am not ucranian.

If you are interested, you can start by asking yourself who Zelensky is.
He was a comedian who protagonized " Servant of the People" a tv serie. Said serie was intended as a propaganda for the soon to be " Servant of the people party", the tool for making a president out of an actor.. Behind all that is a billionaire called Ihor Kolomoyski, a sponsor of batallon Azov and Aidar, openly nazis.
Without leaving ucranian tv landscape, you will find Fahreddin Sharaffmal, a journalist who, with a picture of Adolf Einchman and after declaring himself a nazi, called in live tv for the killing of russian children as the only way to liberate Ukraine. Look for it, very nice tv show.
Maybe you remember, or maybe not, the Trade Union building of Odessa, where 50 people were burnt alive to their dead in 2014. Not only the crime remain unpunished, but one of the leaders of the Pravy Sektor, one of the gangs involved in the atrocity, Maksym Marchenko, was designed gobernor of the very city of Odessa by Zelensky in March of this year... would you believe it?

I won't say ucranian goberment is nazi, as I said nazis are not NATO puppets, but they are not exactly freedom lovers, either.

Ucranian and russian govmts. are both criminal and corrupt to the core.
There is a lot of shit, dark interests, lies and hate in both countries.

My whole point is if two criminals are fighting and you join the fight to help one of them, you become also a criminal.
Keep in mind both Putin and Zelensky are rich and alive, don't help none of them to kill innocent and poor people.
 

Putin Appointed 'Chief Exorcist' as Kremlin Whips up Satanic Panic​


Aleksey Pavlov, assistant secretary of the security council of the Russian Federation, is now calling for the "desatanization" of Ukraine, saying that there were "hundreds of sects" in the country where citizens have abandoned Orthodox values.

"I believe that, with the continuation of the special military operation, it becomes more and more urgent to carry out the desatanization of Ukraine," Pavlov said, according to state-run Russian news agency Tass.




forget the nazis.....they've moved onto desatanization :devil stoner:
 

Putin Appointed 'Chief Exorcist' as Kremlin Whips up Satanic Panic​


Aleksey Pavlov, assistant secretary of the security council of the Russian Federation, is now calling for the "desatanization" of Ukraine, saying that there were "hundreds of sects" in the country where citizens have abandoned Orthodox values.

"I believe that, with the continuation of the special military operation, it becomes more and more urgent to carry out the desatanization of Ukraine," Pavlov said, according to state-run Russian news agency Tass.




forget the nazis.....they've moved onto desatanization :devil stoner:
I should think that if he were actually interested in "exorcizing" Russia he would leave it to those amongst the clergy who actually trained for it. He is just using this as a sociopolitical tool IMHO.
 
No not satan. :oops:
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No not satan. :oops:
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Correct, not satan.

That being said:

desatanization" of Ukraine, saying that there were "hundreds of sects" in the country where citizens have abandoned Orthodox values

Refers to Orthodox religion. Aren't the clergy (who are trained to do it) supposed to reclaim those who are no longer "Orthodox"?

If this was in USA would we expect Biden to become "chief anything" in charge of , Catholics (since he one) back ?

No, again up to the clergy


Again, this is just a political tool, IMHO.
 
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He is just using this as a sociopolitical tool IMHO.
Agreed. Was trying a levity.
Wondering if they can handle super satan?
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but serioiusly...
this prolly aint the place for jokes but wth didnt russia kill off all religions (chritianity) at some point in history to keep out this kinda foolishness at bay?
who is able to beat damien? maybe the loch ness monster? lol
sorry
im out
 
@6am-64-14m :

Absolutely no problem you posting that, but this being the serious section of P & CE you should be prepared for an appropriate refutation. Don't take it personally.

As Cheshire_Kat, I enjoy the humor. Trust me. Just so you know, we have a whole sub forum called the dive where you can post all day without fear of a serious answer.





Or can you ... :unsure:
 
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Correct, not satan.

That being said:



Refers to Orthodox religion. Aren't the clergy (who are trained to do it) supposed to reclaim those who are no longer "Orthodox"?

If this was in USA would we expect Biden to become "chief anything" in charge of , Catholics (since he one) back ?

No, again up to the clergy


Again, this is just a political tool, IMHO.
I am not sure, is anyone on this site Eastern Orthodox or Greek Orthodox?
 
What is orthodox belief?



Orthodoxy believes that the Christian Faith and the Church are inseparable. It is impossible to know Christ, to share in the life of the Holy Trinity, or to be considered a Christian, apart from the Church. It is in the Church that the Christian Faith is proclaimed and maintained.



and then there's Orthodox Jews too :unsure:
 
What is orthodox belief?



Orthodoxy believes that the Christian Faith and the Church are inseparable. It is impossible to know Christ, to share in the life of the Holy Trinity, or to be considered a Christian, apart from the Church. It is in the Church that the Christian Faith is proclaimed and maintained.



and then there's Orthodox Jews too :unsure:



I once seriously considered becoming Eastern Orthodox, but I never went to a service or mass. I used to know a woman from Bosnia who is Orthodox Christian. She was super kind and told me about very private things such as her religion as she liked me as a person.
 
Correct, not satan.

That being said:



Refers to Orthodox religion. Aren't the clergy (who are trained to do it) supposed to reclaim those who are no longer "Orthodox"?

If this was in USA would we expect Biden to become "chief anything" in charge of , Catholics (since he one) back ?

No, again up to the clergy


Again, this is just a political tool, IMHO.
Biden and Pelosi are not actually Roman Catholic. If they really were Roman Catholic they would be adamantly against abortion.

'Some, when they find themselves with child through their sin, use drugs to procure abortion, and when (as often happens) they die with their offspring, they enter the lower world laden with the guilt not only of adultery against Christ, seperation from God, but also of self-murder (suicide) and child murder."

St. Jerome of Dalmatia
 
Biden and Pelosi are not actually Roman Catholic. If they really were Roman Catholic they would be adamantly against abortion.

'Some, when they find themselves with child through their sin, use drugs to procure abortion, and when (as often happens) they die with their offspring, they enter the lower world laden with the guilt not only of adultery against Christ, seperation from God, but also of self-murder (suicide) and child murder."

St. Jerome of Dalmatia
Actually they are Roman Catholic... And yes there is a lot of talk inside the Church about whether or not their stand is correct. She was even banned from receiving communion in her own city, while Pope Francis gave her communion when she visited the Vatican.



There is a growing schism in the Catholic Church under Pope Francis
 
'Some, when they find themselves with child through their sin, use drugs to procure abortion, and when (as often happens) they die with their offspring, they enter the lower world laden with the guilt not only of adultery against Christ, seperation from God, but also of self-murder (suicide) and child murder."

St. Jerome of Dalmatia
This q wowed da fuck outta me....

She was even banned from receiving communion in her own city, while Pope Francis gave her communion when she visited the Vatican.
I think I remember this. Soooo freakin much "info" out there freakin static. Dont know up or d
down. Have we ever?
 
So jftr as a mod should delete the shitpost (not really imo) i made earlier. Thought about it a coupla time thought id ask yall mfs. ;)
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unsure
 
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