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Benzos running low, wondering about other options..

I don't know any competent doctor who would prescribe that much xanax, I thought my 4mg/day was unheard of.....

I was scripted 12mg a day, along with 120mg diazepam and 2mg flunitrazepam and my doctor was one of the most renowned professors of psychiatry in Australia.
 
I was scripted 12mg a day, along with 120mg diazepam and 2mg flunitrazepam and my doctor was one of the most renowned professors of psychiatry in Australia.

Thats a shit ton of benzos! I also try to keep a backup supply of my DOC but im sure you know its not that easy when you're tight on money and would rather not go thru opiate w/d
 
This is the truth!! I take 5 mg. a day of Xanax prescribed and often wonder what would happen if we had a hurricane or something in Florida and I was unable to get my script refilled. I would die if not taken to the hospital.


Hey Taylor_105, what do you think would happen if you were in a car accident and were brought to the hospital and were 'knocked-out/in a coma' for a few days... I wonder if your body would start going threw benzo w/d while you were knocked out in the hospital?? Well, I guess you would be on opiates but would opiates stop a bad benzo w/d?? I would think if someone was in severe xanax withdrawal and had at least a slight opiate tolerance (or at least used to) that a nice dose of IV diacetylmorphine would stop those xanax withdrawals until the opiate wore off... b/c would the opiate make you nod out and in essence prevent a potential seizure? I have always wondered if that would work? I know most all opiate addicts that detox use benzos while detoxing (even though they are no miracle cure for getting through a opiate detox, they sure as hell help!). I know benzo's work on totally different receptors and GABA and what not but I would think if the opiate dose was a perfect 'heavy' dose to make you nod it would stop the benzo w/d for the time being....


OH SHIT!! I almost forgot, as I have always wondered if this would work: What about ALCOHOL?! Alcohol works on GABA just like benzos, so Couldn't you use alcohol for benzo withdrawals if there is nothing else? I say this because I know alcohol acts very similarly to benzos like xanax, ativan, and valium.
 
^alcohol can work if you have absolutely nothing else but i seriously recommend against it. You will get rebound anxiety when it wears off and be in a much worse place. If you end up getting a hang over and withdrawing at the same time it would be very miserable.

Opiates can help with the pain, anxiety and maybe diarrhea but your brain is still going to be screaming for something to hit those gaba receptors. Unfortunately there isn't an easy way out, although i've heard that gabapentin, phenibut and pregabalin can help.
 
This is the truth!! I take 5 mg. a day of Xanax prescribed and often wonder what would happen if we had a hurricane or something in Florida and I was unable to get my script refilled. I would die if not taken to the hospital.


I always wondered this as well.......what if there is some kind of catastrophe, like hurricane Katrina in Louisiana a few years ago, people on benzos would literally die because of not getting their meds.
 
When I used to live in Virginia, there was only one methadone clinic which was OK with their patients using benzos, and they all had to sign a contract which basically meant if they overdosed it wasn't anyone's fault but the user's, not the clinic or the doctor's.

Where I used to go in SC, I had a script for 4mg a day alprazolam on up to 150mg of methadone a day. They called my doc and he said it was all good and the clinic won't say anything about it. A few other people I used to know there were in similar situations, so I don't think they frown on benzo usage.
 
Hey Taylor_105, what do you think would happen if you were in a car accident and were brought to the hospital and were 'knocked-out/in a coma' for a few days... I wonder if your body would start going threw benzo w/d while you were knocked out in the hospital?? Well, I guess you would be on opiates but would opiates stop a bad benzo w/d?? I would think if someone was in severe xanax withdrawal and had at least a slight opiate tolerance (or at least used to) that a nice dose of IV diacetylmorphine would stop those xanax withdrawals until the opiate wore off... b/c would the opiate make you nod out and in essence prevent a potential seizure? I have always wondered if that would work? I know most all opiate addicts that detox use benzos while detoxing (even though they are no miracle cure for getting through a opiate detox, they sure as hell help!). I know benzo's work on totally different receptors and GABA and what not but I would think if the opiate dose was a perfect 'heavy' dose to make you nod it would stop the benzo w/d for the time being....[/B]


I have had this thought also....When i first went on subutex many years ago i had to have a "Special Card" they gave me in my wallet...Which of course said " My name is Miss Kirsty and i am currently taking the medicine "SUBUTEX". Blah Blah, just in case i had a car accident and was unconcious......But i did that years ago when it first came to Aust...
 
i've been getting a steady supply of bars from a friend of a friend of possibly another friend, but as always the source runs dry. sooo i'm in a bad spot and i'm trying to find ways to relax before i can possibly find other, more reliable ways to attain what i use for real and true anxiety.

i was prescribed 30 1mg alprazolam tabs when i started on buprenorphine a while back, which helped a bit with the anxiety of getting off opiates and... then i got back on them (opiates) in a bad, bad way... but am now officially a little over a year clean off the needle, successfully transitioned to a methadone program, and have started to taper my methadone dose.

i've only gone down about 20mg total from a beginning dose of 130mg of methadone, but i am already experiencing anxiety in a bad way.

anyone in a similar situation find good ways to relax until a new source becomes available?

Valarian Root works the same way as Valium. Make some tea with three or four bags worth.

Next, forget about a new source. Either wait it out like you can or check into a detox at a hospital. Explain your situation.

Three bars on 130mg of Methadone for anxiety? Stop chasing the high. Seriously. It will fuck you up mentally later in life if not kill you before then.
 
I have had this thought also....When i first went on subutex many years ago i had to have a "Special Card" they gave me in my wallet...Which of course said " My name is Miss Kirsty and i am currently taking the medicine "SUBUTEX". Blah Blah, just in case i had a car accident and was unconcious......But i did that years ago when it first came to Aust...

They still do this in Australia with the card.
 
^^^^ Ohhh ok...Its good they still do it.

I guess its up to us as adults to obtain one as opposed to them being handed out....If i remember correctly it was in the back of my subutex booklet they gave me...and i filled it out and put it in my wallet...But you can also use medi-alert if you are worried taylor-105....It may give you some peace of mind as it seems to be a worry for you...We prob ALL ( MMT, Subutex, bupe..etc) should have em...:D


Not one medical type person has ever given me one since.....
 
regarding alcohol, i've been in this situation many times and resorted to alcohol for both benzo and opiate w/d, 80% opiate w/d and 20% benzo w/t. Honestly it never works in the true sense of the word and best to just sweat and deal with it for a couple days b/c you need to go on a bienge basically in my experience in order to 'get rid' of 3-4 days. By that I mean not being able to remeber or having slept throughout those days and drinking even when waking to piss...its a horrible feeling and like mentioned already you DO get rebound anxiety from drinking that much for that long. I too resorted to alcohol based on your train of though regarding GABA however sadly mistaken I was.

What I would recommend is finding a really strong hash or weed, mellow out naturally with a couple movies just to pass the time and don't take naps I find the best not to sleep about 2-3 days until I can sleep naturually its only 4-5hr then and u wake up still w/d..this time without as much willpower/w/ds getting worse so its best to take any dose of benzos however little 0.25mg clonazepam around the time u wake to avoid DTs as u already wont be thinking straight (weed may not go so good aound this point in the w/d). You could try if desperate Robaxin (pure methocarbamol/muscle relaxant nothing special), other recomandations that DO work to some extent are VALERIAN and if you can get opioids of any kind (notthing like kratom tough) which work wonders, perhaphs some melatonin.

If in doubt go to the local hospital. A buddy once ran out of benzos and REALLY needed them, had no prescription for them/buying from other, so he walked into the local hospital and said he really needed benzos at which point they refused so he said he would be dead without them so he was placed under psych watch for a mandatory 2 or 3 days among the really, truly psyho patients there and the doctors had him on benzos while there, as well as some other drug. When he left he had a script for daily benzos.

p.s. its much worse for opiates in the sense that it almost 99% never works, making you if anything a lot more agitated/unsettled than previous, and much more obsessed/directed on procuring opiates which you will do eventually b/c you will get sick of being 24/7 drunk
 
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well written sir. I was usually don't find myself carefully reading someone's response to a question I am well aware of the answer myself because I've been through the in's and out's of w/d. I used to be a 500-800mg daily user of OC oxycotin. When OPs took over it was a rude awakening but it practically saved my life because I was using the opiate recreationally. However, the only thing I will add to this response to the matter is just not to quite benzos cold turkey. Regardless the amount of your dose it could potentially be vary dangerous. I am prescribed 2mg bars and get 100 a month and even though I just take 2.5mg in a day as directed I had three seizures when I ran out of my script and just cold turkey stopped until my next doctors appointment. I told myself I will never be an addict on a substance, I feel that being reliant and dependent on a medication is completely different. After getting out of the oxycotin funk, and going through the w/d I was aware that benzos were very similar to opiate w/ds and I just wanted to take my medication as directed and carefully. Even though I just took 2.5mg of alpraz a night to sleep, when I went without it I had very uneasy sleep for the two nights and because of the uneasy sleeping and being extremely restless, my brain just snapped and I wake up on a stretcher being rolled into an ambulance. The best way is just to sweat it out and deal with it in most cases but with benzos it's different. You need to tapper off the right way if you are trying to tapper off. If you're just concerned about your status and where you stand right now because you're running low and know you need them, you better hit up your doctor or find someone who has em asap. Don't be stupid like me and try to think you're smarter than doctors and being your own doctor. It got me into the ER and really screwed up my life for a good year because I was too stubborn to realize I was handling a substance the wrong way and thus I had four seizures and my close friends and loved ones will always be in fear thinking I might seize while driving.*because that happened and I am lucky to be alive.*
 
this is a little much. "die"...from taking 5mg...? I don't think you'll die if you weren't able to get your prescription filled promptly before running out. This is why I keep my doses in a modest amount of 2.5mgs a day even though I get 1002mg bars a month I never go over 2.5mgs. I use them in a routine based schedule and don't even know if I feel the effects of the medication. I just take it because I know that quitting benzos is very dangerous. It doesn't matter if you consume 1mg - 14mgs a day but if you don't tapper off in a smart, effective way you can have a seizure and I am speaking from experience. I cold turkey quit using bars just to make sure I wasn't "addicted" to the substance. I would compare myself to other people I know using the medication recreationally and would think since I only consume, at most 3mgs a day I would be fine if I cold turkey quit because I know of people consuming up to 15mgs in a day. I realized it doesn't matter how much you consume, if you don't tapper off this medication you will most likely go through some pretty rough days and in my particular situation seize. Just think of it, simply if your brain is expecting some sort of medication to help you with anxiety or sleep and you consume the medication for a long period of time and just stop abruptly...something bad is most likely going to occur. be smart and slowly lower your doses of benzos because this is a substance that is very dangerous if you're using recreationally or uneducated in the sense of taking even "prescribed" medication.
 
Lyrica and Gabapentin help with opiate and benzo withdrawl. If you can get your hands on Lyrica that works best, take about 300-600mg your first dose and it should help, with gabapentin you may need to take 1200mg or so , tolerance develops fast but it helps a lot.
 
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