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Opioids Roxicodone or Oxycontin: What would you prefer?

Kenaz said:
With all due respect: there are many, many addicts who are (or were) convinced they "have ridiculously high will power and can stop when [they] actually need to." I was certain I could quit drinking whenever I needed to. It took me over a decade, and a metric shitload of fuckups and missed opportunities, to actually succeed.
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I like your choice of words. I enjoy reading your posts, as you always seem to have some positive input.
 
morphonorconic said:
I like your choice of words. I enjoy reading your posts, as you always seem to have some positive input.
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Thanks. I hope you take what I said to heart. I was fortunate in that I wasn't dealing with chronic pain (other than the sort which can be numbed by booze). If I were, I'm sure I would have become hooked on whatever I was prescribed.

I don't want to get on a high horse because I enjoy a good opiate high on occasion. But I also know that self-destructive impulses and depression combined with a steady supply of addictive substances is a recipe for a whole lot of suffering. If you want to enjoy your pills because they feel good, that's one thing. If you want to commit slow suicide because you don't give a fuck (whether or not you admit to yourself that is what you're doing), that's quite another.
 
^Right on. Again, well said.

The point made here can serve as a good reminder to all of us, no matter how "together" we have it, or think we have it, to take a step back and take a look at ourselves and evaluate how we really are.
 
Mr Blonde said:
The reason that people can get touchy about this issue is that people abusing pain medication is the reason that it's hard for many to get the meds they need, and they either have to settle for very poor substitutes, turn to street drugs or jump through a myriad of hoops for their doctors.
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It's the fault of drug prohibition. It's legal concerns that cause opiophobia among doctors. If law enforcement wasn't so hell-bent on stopping consenting adults from partaking in intoxicants other than alcohol and tobacco, they wouldn't be going after people who are getting their stuff in a safe environment from a medical professional.
If LE wasn't allowed to violate patient-doctor privilege to inspect the prescribing practices just to make sure nobody might be getting high from opiates instead of alcohol, and subsequently arresting them and charging them like the violent, murdering, raping gang banger crack lords, then it'd be MUCH easier for everybody to get appropriate pain relief, because far more doctors would be willing to prescribe stronger stuff.
And if drugs were legal, while some doctors would be concerned with abuse, all the junkies could just get their stuff elsewhere.

Don't blame people trying to get their drugs in pure form in known quantities from a safe environment for the legal witchhunt that makes doctors scared of prescribing any real pain meds.
 
LightTrailz said:
When your fucking over your doctor to get your high , no your not .. but im not getting into this shit all over again . dont tune your pain medication just to get fucked up on it .
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Hey jackass, please learn to spell correctly and who gives a shit what a person decides to do with their medication? I'd say you should be intelligent enough to realize we should not have victimless crimes in this country, but obviously it cannot be expected of you to undertand this concept when you cannot even spell correctly. So please enjoy a hot cup of Shut The Fuck Up.
 
ugly said:
How the hell did you make an 80 last 3-5 weeks???????8o
I do some in the morning and some in the evening but I can't make one 80 last more than 48 hours at the MOST.
TO THE OP: I love Roxies. I would get the script for Roxies and enjoy every fucking minute of it. You've been through enough already and you will enjoy the sweet high notes of the roxie over the oxy.
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LoL i snort 2 80s at once for fuck sake. FUCK MY LIFE!

Oh and its not roxicodone its roxicet. Oxycodone is what roxicet is. Oxycodone is also what oxycontin is. Both are just different names, same drug. So theyre pretty much the same. Sometimes switching from oxycontin to roxis might yield a slightly better high if you have a tolerance to oxycontin. Even though its the same drug theres just that 2% of difference that comes into play and you might get a tiny bit better high on something you've n ever done.
 
Daikor said:
Hey jackass, please learn to spell correctly and who gives a shit what a person decides to do with their medication? I'd say you should be intelligent enough to realize we should not have victimless crimes in this country, but obviously it cannot be expected of you to undertand this concept when you cannot even spell correctly. So please enjoy a hot cup of Shut The Fuck Up.
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LMAO, a greenlighter misspelled "understand" while trying to convince us of his superior spelling skills.

LightTrailz is cool, so lay off newbie.

As you said "please enjoy a hot cup of Shut The Fuck Up"
 
Hey Watisha (sp)....
I like them almost alike. You are going to be experiencing a buzz from either one, if your tolerance isnt high. Patients dont get too "fucked" up on them because they have built a tolerance from sometimes years of lorcets or percocets, this usually comes after that. Usually a doctor will prescribe so many pills of hydrocodone or oxy because giving them dosages of 2-40mg each pill. To those who are being assholes, I dont understand why. I have been a member to this site for a long time, and I dont ever remember it being taboo to say u get high off of drugs... now these days everyone is acting like its wrong to say you enjoy the euphoria...fuck em...this site was always about a safe way to get info to correctly use and discuss drugs...duh...these self proclaimed "pain patients" on this site, get fucked up the exact same way you do off of these drugs, it just makes themselves feel better about them selves because they are prescribed it...not to say you arent, but u get my drift
 
I'm quite fucked up and am typing with one eye. A typo is different than being ignorant and not knowing how to spell correctly. A very simple concept wouldn't you agree?
 
Abilities said:
LoL i snort 2 80s at once for fuck sake. FUCK MY LIFE!

Oh and its not roxicodone its roxicet. Oxycodone is what roxicet is. Oxycodone is also what oxycontin is. Both are just different names, same drug. So theyre pretty much the same. Sometimes switching from oxycontin to roxis might yield a slightly better high if you have a tolerance to oxycontin. Even though its the same drug theres just that 2% of difference that comes into play and you might get a tiny bit better high on something you've n ever done.
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Roxicet is an oxycodone/APAP combo like percocet, and endocet.
oxycontin is a continuous release (CONTIN)form of oxycodone
roxycodone is an immediate release (IR) form of oxycodone.
 
Daikor said:
I'm quite fucked up and am typing with one eye. A typo is different than being ignorant and not knowing how to spell correctly. A very simple concept wouldn't you agree?
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And there is also a difference between trying to make a valid argument and being an asshole. Check your warnings, maybe you'll learn the difference.

Binge Artist said:
At the risk of turning this thread into another "junky vs pain patient" thread, I'd like to discuss this point a bit.

It seems contrary to the general philosophy of this site to chastize those who choose to abuse prescription narcotics--ie, the Junkies. Also, it seems contrary to human sympathy to suggest that certain people shouldn't get the medicine they need--ie, the pain patients. Therefore, we should expect this site to have more of a "junkies AND pain patients VS doctors" vibe.

When we be objective about it, there really isn't too much of a difference between junkies and pain patients. Both have "unhappy" conditions that can be relieved by opiates. And what ever condition this may be, we could possibly argue that the junkies have it even worse than the pain patients; after all, they usually require a higher dose to rectify their unhappiness.
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Well, if you look closely you'll notice it was not I who was being unsympathetic to him, just warning him that it can be a touchy issue around here.

Personally, I think it's junkies, pain patients and doctors vs. THE MAN/THE ESTABLISHMENT. If it weren't for drug prohibition and the moral seriousness placed on it by those in power, then doctors would not have to be concerned about such things.

But as it stands I'm realpolitik. Whilst I am doing harm reduction work right now, both on this site and in real life, I know the laws are unlikely to change soon and that we will have to try and erode them slowly. In the mean time, if I had to choose between a pain patient or a junkie getting the meds, the pain patient wins out all the time. A doctor who experiences many patients who abuse their meds is then less likely to Rx those meds to those who need them.

I will help the junkie reduce harm from their drug use, and offer them advice, help, support, etc... but I won't condone what they do or help them do it.

svacheme3: I believe this also answers your post as well somewhat.
 
The topic at hand: roxi all day everyday. 90mg roxi is better to me than 120mg oc insuffalated.
Junkie vs. Pain patients: I guess I'd be a junkie. I don't get my roxi from a doctor and neither does my "guy". Every now and then there is someone with a script that is selling em but, I don't know of anyone that stock piles thousands of pills from a script to sell. If I were relying on someone with a script along with countless others we'd all be shit outta luck in no time. I just never get the argument that I'm taking someone's meds. How is that even remotely true? Its supply and demand and when the dealers are supplied the drug companies don't say "well that's it for now, guess pain patients are fucked". Not at all they make more cause they're a fucking business. I realize that its not the same everywhere and that a lot of people do abuse their own meds. I see that doctors would be reluctant to script meds because of this. I don't doctor shop and I don't know anyone that does. Some here I'm sure do. I however don't and I'm sick of being generalized because I use recreationaly. Its not the same everywhere. People get shit in many different ways if these people that are always complaining don't say shit about heroin and cocaine and yet the reality is a large portion of street level pharmaceuticals are procured the same way.
 
At first i preferred the Roxi's. They were 15MG IR, so you could do what you preferred. Mine was to swallow them with an occasional insufflation. As my tolerance increased, I would prefer the insufflation method only with the infrequent swallow. Just recently I was switched to the 40mg Oxycontin's (tan color, mallinkrodt) when I told my doctor that in order for me to sustain the breakthough pain I had to double up. He didnt like that, so thats where the Oxy's came from. I tell ya, hands down the Oxy is better to me. It lasts much longer, and is incredibly more intense of a "high" (if thats what you are after here) and Im taking fewer a day. This really helps with avoiding the sick feeling i got from taking too much.

Edit: Johnny Blue comparing 90mg of roxi to 120 of oxy doesnt make sense. If you were to take 90 MG of Roxi, correct me if im wrong the equivalent in Oxy would be much more than 120. I would think (if a person could handle it) , that anyone would love 90mg of roxi over 120 of oxy.
 
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Mr_Blonde, I agree that if it was an either-or situation than absolutely the legit patient comes first; however it's my contention that the effect created by the legal system as a barrier to treatment is so much larger of an issue that encountering some patients that abuse their medications is not significant enough to justify the increased harm that would come to the user and society from dealing with street drugs. I also think it's the responsibility of any abuser obtaining their drugs from a doctor to make damn sure nobody at the practice knows about it. That includes not asking for refills early, not showing up blatantly fucked up, and not conducting business near the office; which most junkies can manage. And I further believe it's the responsibility of the doctor to learn to deal with bad patients, as every doctor will encounter them; I do not feel doctors who let the actions of some patients effect all patients are doing something ethical, and nor do I believe the solution to their prejudice is to condemn the patients, legit or not.
 
i shoot both an for me, the difference is i get a good rush from Roxi. not as much from Oxy but a stronger high after a few minutes
 
oxycodone or oxycodone wich do you prefer? hmmm let me ponder this for a second.... OXYCODONE!
 
how about you just scrap the oxycodone and get you some dilaudids muuuuch better then oxy ime
 
Newbiana said:
Edit: Johnny Blue comparing 90mg of roxi to 120 of oxy doesnt make sense. If you were to take 90 MG of Roxi, correct me if im wrong the equivalent in Oxy would be much more than 120. I would think (if a person could handle it) , that anyone would love 90mg of roxi over 120 of oxy.
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Um well you're not wrong but both pills contain the same drug being oxycodone. The topic basically comes down to IR vs. ER. I guess it also depends on MOA and sometimes even brand name. I'm pretty sure most insufalators that prefer OC would choose a malinkrodt roxi over a teva OC, for example.
 
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