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Opioids Roxicodone 30mg ir

hatrix said:
This is strictly against the rules. No suggesting IV drug use. Have fun with your infraction or warning..
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It's strictly against the rules (check the OD guidelines, it's updated time to time so might be misunderstood) when the OP has not mentioned their intentions on using the IV ROA.

In this case, the OP did indeed ask about intravenous administration so it's not a rule violation. Is it ethical/necessary for one to suggest it or defend it? That's not something I'm going to infract or warn upon I'm afraid. I don't agree with the people who're posting condoning it without any HR information but again if the OD crew infracted for all the posts we disagreed with, there very well might be a shiton of would-be-ex-bluelighters who need harm reduction information or support arguably moreso than those who already know how and /or choose to take precautions for their long-term health, each person to a different extent of HR obviously. Some people consider filtering (or not) an IV shot through a smoked/used cigarette filter "fine", and if those people started recommending that others do the same I would be glad to issue those infractions as they are a clear violation of the OD guidelines and BLUA as a whole.

Mr.flowers00 and the other people, you don't get any infractions, but you don't get a gold star either. Freedom of speech and all, but OD is not a forum dedicated to helping people get the most fucked up by doing dangerous shit.
 
Yes oral oxy is best. But insuflated oxy has its benefits. What people have not talked about, is how NONE of the active ingredient needs to be lost in nasal cavities.

Snort the powder. Then 30 minutes later give your nostrils a thorough rinse with saline and all the dried/caked up oxy powder will go down your throat and into your stomach where it can then be absorbed. Meaning same amount of oxy will get absorbed via nasal or oral routes.

So given that, the quicker onset snorting offers can ofset the delayed absorbtion of X percentage of oxy (delayed b/c u'll swallow it 30 mins after snorting it). I say can, because for some people they like having the full oral dose be absorbed at the same time, while others prefer quicker onset.

The only real issue then is the risk of inhaling pill/powder particles into your lungs. But as I understand it, most formulations of oxycodone do not contain silicates/silica---the major culprit. Perhaps some do, and perhaps some formulations contain other inactives that can cause harm if inhaled, but I can't really speak to that. Nonetheless, again this is a non-issue if the oxy is snorted while in a liquid solution---problem solved.

So with a few simple steps, the whole nasal vs oral debate is reduced to a matter of preference and that's it.

Iv tried plugging and don't like it....it requires paraphanalia, time to prep and time to administer, and then time to lay down while it absorbs. Plus you have to shove a narrow object in your rectum--not pleasant, and can possibly poke or tare ur colon. And I've never experienced the rush ppl talk about, however that's likely b/c my colon had some much fecal matter backed up into it due to a decade of opiate induced constipation.

Ppl should stop being so curt and defensive and offer helpful advise how to reduce harm.

Regarding IV---dont start it. If u do it already, then use clean equipment, micron filter, and never use heat. Clean injection sites and rotate injection sites.

AND DON'T SMOKE PILLS! Just not worth the risks. I think its more of a trend, fad, social experience than it actually offering a superior high to the roa's mentioned above. So try alternate roa's if you smoke, keep an open mind, and judge for yourself. And don't smoke pills b/v its just damn dangerous!
 
walterdini said:
Yes oral oxy is best. But insuflated oxy has its benefits. What people have not talked about, is how NONE of the active ingredient needs to be lost in nasal cavities.

Snort the powder. Then 30 minutes later give your nostrils a thorough rinse with saline and all the dried/caked up oxy powder will go down your throat and into your stomach where it can then be absorbed. Meaning same amount of oxy will get absorbed via nasal or oral routes.

So given that, the quicker onset snorting offers can ofset the delayed absorbtion of X percentage of oxy (delayed b/c u'll swallow it 30 mins after snorting it). I say can, because for some people they like having the full oral dose be absorbed at the same time, while others prefer quicker onset.
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You do realize that your method of snorting would be no different than taking it orally if all of the oxycodone is going down your throat as a drip, and would also most likely offer no faster onset than crushing the pill and parachuting it. You nose literally can't absorb any oxycodone because it's so caked in filler. It get's a little bit, but not much. Regardless of your saline wash, it's pointless as hell.

This has been gone over time and time again. I'm tired of people thinking snorting is better. It's not. I know you said oral is best, but this is meant more as a general statement. The BA is very low with snorted oxy, oral is much higher. You will get higher taking it orally. Snorting it is a waste of oxycodone.
 
I feel like with opiates especially, the sought after 'high' transforms over an addiction. At first, the user desires duration and the highest BA for strongest effects, which is best found in oral dosing. As the nature of the experience changes from 'getting high' to 'getting well' over time, something happens where the chase turns into a strong desire just to feel OK again, which would make snorting a better option for individuals at that point.

Hatrix, i see what you're saying but with opiates the majority of the high is in the actual onset of the drug -. The short period in which one feels a shift into bliss, and when that phase wears off it's more of a relaxation than a high. There are two highs that can come with opiates, the rush and the plateau.
 
I wouldn't call 45-60 120 second tops much of a difference in prep time compared to the process of proper insufflation with the right powder/solution consistency.
 
hatrix said:
You do realize that your method of snorting would be no different than taking it orally if all of the oxycodone is going down your throat as a drip, and would also most likely offer no faster onset than crushing the pill and parachuting it. You nose literally can't absorb any oxycodone because it's so caked in filler. It get's a little bit, but not much. Regardless of your saline wash, it's pointless as hell.

This has been gone over time and time again. I'm tired of people thinking snorting is better. It's not. I know you said oral is best, but this is meant more as a general statement. The BA is very low with snorted oxy, oral is much higher. You will get higher taking it orally. Snorting it is a waste of oxycodone.
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It may not scientifically be the best but fmto a user it may be the preferred roa for the high one is after. Ik me personally before I moved the needle if I took oxy or morphine orally my dose would increased to twice that compared to if I snorted it. My reasoning behind that was simplythe fact that if I snorted it I got somewhat of a desired rush, if I took it orally I wouldn't get that desired rush just a gradual shift into a more mellow high.
 
Hey this is to the OP, I just read the other thread you started about snorting Norco's Hydrocodone 10mg/APAP 325 and now i read this one about smoking Roxi's, buddy no offense or anything but befor you do/waste anymore drugs, please spend atleast a week or two reading and learning everything you can from this site, please inform yourself about these things more.. you'll save more money and you wont waste pills anymore and you'll thank everyone on this site at one point or another.
 
BlueberryfishY said:
Hey this is to the OP, I just read the other thread you started about snorting Norco's Hydrocodone 10mg/APAP 325 and now i read this one about smoking Roxi's, buddy no offense or anything but befor you do/waste anymore drugs, please spend atleast a week or two reading and learning everything you can from this site, please inform yourself about these things more.. you'll save more money and you wont waste pills anymore and you'll thank everyone on this site at one point or another.
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Knowledge=power=not making dumb ass choices=wasting drugs and destroying health. =D
 
Shit you might as well just smoke some crack or meth...they are MADE for smoking.

I've never understood why people would smoke opioids, unless you had some opium or something.

IMO the best way to take oxy is to eat about 75% of your dose(this way it lasts much longer, better for pain relief) and snort the other 25%. I think i've done this every time with roxy...oral dosing for higher bioavailability, last longer, and take the nasal bump if needed to give you a quick boost that will peak around the same time as the oral dose.
 
Okay, I'm not condoing IV use when saying this but Oxy does provide a rush(just irks me when people swear up and down it doesn't), I have Morphine and Hydromorphone to compare it to, no Heroin, but I know what a rush is. But by shooting it decreases the time that your high DRAMATICALLY. IMO, best way to ingest codone's is by eating or plugging...plugging will give you a 'rush' kinda and the time of the high is longer than oral, IME. But please don't smoke em' not only for health reasons but it SUCKS. Tried it one time just to do it..total waste of a pill I was buzzed for like 30 mins at most. Snorting is better, even tho it also decreases the time of the high. But really, don't smoke pills, it's a waste.
 
Some people posted about the oral route having the highest BA, just so you know, the oral route has a very wide range. It may be 87% for some and under 60% for others. It has a very wide range when taken orally. Unfortunately I am on the lower end.

And I am not sure, but I believe when OP asked what were the best or most potent I believe he meant which brand is best, but I do not know. I should have read ahead to see if OP responded to the questions of some.

Anyways, nasal and plugging works best for me. Especially with some grapefruit juice 45 minutes prior. But that does not seem to last for more than a few times, but those initial times, you will feel a HUGE difference. Also remember benzos, muscle relaxers, ib profin, Benadryl, DXM. I am not saying combine all of them, but if you know what works for you, I was just offering some info. Be careful though.

Take care and be safe.
 
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