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Rotating Benzo use?

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Will I get better effects from my xanax use for social anxiety if I rotate other benzos maybe clonazepam and diazepam and switch to a diff benzo every couple weeks? Or is there total cross tolerance and it won't help?
 
The onset and duration is different for all of those but in terms of clinical efficacy, there is a very high cross tolerance.
 
No. It won't. You will build a cross-tolerance regardless of what Benzodiazepine you are taking. Rotating won't do anything but possibly get you more addicted. Most benzodiazepines have active metabolites, the more you take, the more addicted you will get to benzos. And that's a horrible road to go down. Be smart, be safe.
 
My 2 cents,,,,,,,,,(1 cent for and 1 cent against)
If you only use your medicine on an "ONLY when needed" basis (but seriously ONLY), then there would be no need for this query. Just use what you are prescribed (when needed).
But OP your post really doesn't sound like a legit reason for taking xanax, and nothing good would come from it by self medicating.
 
There all still Benzos so cross tolerance is still there...Try alternating with kava, kratom, phenibut or whatever else you'd like. Just make sure to alternate and read up on them before you take any
 
the cross tolerance isn't 100%, rotating benzos will just build up your tolerance to each individual molecule, the tolerance to te muscle relaxing effects will be the first to rise (very very fast), then the hypnotic effect, then the anxiolytic effect, benzo tolerance takes ages to drop, so in the longer term i doubt rotating benzos will be "beneficial"
 
phatass said:
the cross tolerance isn't 100%, rotating benzos will just build up your tolerance to each individual molecule, the tolerance to te muscle relaxing effects will be the first to rise (very very fast), then the hypnotic effect, then the anxiolytic effect, benzo tolerance takes ages to drop, so in the longer term i doubt rotating benzos will be "beneficial"
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by "each individual molecule" what do you mean? it sounds interesting as i knew some benzos had different profiles of effects but i thought ultimately they affected gaba in different levels.

But yea LastStop, rotating the same kind of drugs is not going to work...It sucks i know, in fact it would be too easy lol
imagine if i can alternate oxy, heroin,dilaudid, heroin lol
 
i would just take the one that works best for you. like someone else said, the timing and dosage are the most important. you won't have to worry about tolerance as much when you just take them when you really need them.

unfortunately i operate best on a steady daily intake of klonopin as opposed to an as needed shorter acting benzo, so tolerance will always be an issue for me just because of the amount taken.

i'm not even sure how an as needed situation would work for people. my entire life is tied into it. i guess i could switch after a while, though. after enough has changed. vice versa, if you need a more stabilizing and constant calm you could try klonopin or xanax XR for now, but then you really would have to worry about tolerance.
 
I see an "As Needed" basis as a time when a situation occurs that the patient would "implode" psychologically and therefore physically too.
A NON NEEDED dose would be If the patient needs to take a dose to make a dificult situation easier on a constant basis without trying to actually take control of the situation.

This is just how I view that very subjective "As Needed" instruction.
 
Tarnum said:
by "each individual molecule" what do you mean? it sounds interesting as i knew some benzos had different profiles of effects but i thought ultimately they affected gaba in different levels.
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i simply meant what i wrote about the muscle relaxing, hypnotic and anxiolytic effects which are the reasons why most people take benzos, take tetrazepam and flunitrazepam for example (to cite the well known benzos), they are not taken for the same reasons at all, tetrazepam being pretty much only a muscle relaxer with effects closer to carisprodol or meprobamate, and then flunitrazepam which acts as a muscle relaxer, hypnotic and anxioltic all at once in effect having an action closer to a barbiturate for instance, even though yes they are both gabaergics....

in a very different way you could say immodium and diamorpine (yes theres the BBB "issue" of loperamide/immodium which changes a lot of things, but just because you can group them as opioids, it does not man they have the same effect)
 
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