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Spectre420

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So I have rolled once in my life. I have had multiple chances but wasn't touching anything with unknown purity considering that most people around here have to take like .3-.6 of molly to roll hard because its crap.
I have come across a gram of 92% pure mdma powder/rocks (I know the guy who makes it, Its actually 92% pure, its not just dealer BS hype) and rolled for the first time on Wednesday night at a Pretty Lights concert (was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo awesome!)

I have done alot of research on this fascinating chemical and i know most people get off from a good 100-125mg of pure mdma. Most people (men in this case) also weigh like 150-200lbs.
Im a large guy (6'8, 290lbs) so after reading this and based off what i know i guestimated my "sweet spot" dose at about 200mg with a 80mg booster.

I popped that and had a great time (happy, energized, loved up, saucer eyes .etc) and i think i nailed the sweet spot right on however i barely felt physically good (weed feels better to me). After talking to some friends about their rolls and how they said they felt a very intense pleasure the whole time I did more research on what can diminish rolls (other than SSRI type stuff) and found that 5-htp can mute the physical aspect of it if taken the day of the roll. I take 5-htp a decent amount to recover from trips and for my (minor) depression and I had taken it that day. I think it muted the roll. I want to try again without it.

So Big Gigantic is playing tomorrow (Saturday) and it will be exactly 72 hours (3 days) since I rolled. I want to roll then. I have taken 5-htp to recover lost serotonin but I stopped this morning the concert is tomorrow night.

I know you shouldn't roll more than once a month (idealy 3 months) because of serotonin depletion, loss of magic n whatnot. I also know alot of you are going to tell me to not do it or play the harm reduction card.
But I'm going to do it.
Why?
This sack of molly rock is tempting me very badly and there wont be another concert worth going to around here for another 2.5 months so i will take a good break afterwards.

So based off those factors, around what dose do you think would put me at about the same if not slightly stronger than my last experience?

My friends who used to binge on MDMA recommended about 1.7-2 times the dose for a slightly stronger effect. I am thinking about bringing 3 pills. One with 320mg in it to get me started and then a 120mg booster + 70mg booster *i will decide what booster pill (if any) to take based off how im feeling from that first one*

Does this sound like a reasonable/logical dose?
 
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Since you have decided you are going to do it anyway, I would go 250 +100 as soon as you start feeling the effects, net increase of 70mg. You will feel that. You're a big guy so the dosing will be completley different for you, that cannot be argued. I know you're going to be tempted to push further towards half a gram but don't. It's for your own benefit.

Feels like I'm giving poor advice purely because what you're doing isn't a clever thing to do. Don't take advice from friends who, as you admitted, binge on MDMA.

Good luck, make sure you take a long break after this.
 
Spectre420 said:
So I have rolled once in my life. I have had multiple chances but wasn't touching anything with unknown purity considering that most people around here have to take like .3-.6 of molly to roll hard because its crap.
I have come across a gram of 92% pure mdma powder/rocks (I know the guy who makes it, Its actually 92% pure, its not just dealer BS hype) and rolled for the first time on Wednesday night at a Pretty Lights concert (was sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo awesome!)

I have done alot of research on this fascinating chemical and i know most people get off from a good 100-125mg of pure mdma. Most people (men in this case) also weigh like 150-200lbs.
Im a large guy (6'8, 290lbs) so after reading this and based off what i know i guestimated my "sweet spot" dose at about 200mg with a 80mg booster.

I popped that and had a great time (happy, energized, loved up, saucer eyes .etc) and i think i nailed the sweet spot right on however i barely felt physically good (weed feels better to me). After talking to some friends about their rolls and how they said they felt a very intense pleasure the whole time I did more research on what can diminish rolls (other than SSRI type stuff) and found that 5-htp can mute the physical aspect of it if taken the day of the roll. I take 5-htp a decent amount to recover from trips and for my (minor) depression and I had taken it that day. I think it muted the roll. I want to try again without it.

So Big Gigantic is playing tomorrow (Saturday) and it will be exactly 72 hours (3 days) since I rolled. I want to roll then. I have taken 5-htp to recover lost serotonin but I stopped this morning the concert is tomorrow night.

I know you shouldn't roll more than once a month (idealy 3 months) because of serotonin depletion, loss of magic n whatnot. I also know alot of you are going to tell me to not do it or play the harm reduction card.
But I'm going to do it.
Why?
This sack of molly rock is tempting me very badly and there wont be another concert worth going to around here for another 2.5 months so i will take a good break afterwards.

So based off those factors, around what dose do you think would put me at about the same if not slightly stronger than my last experience?

My friends who used to binge on MDMA recommended about 1.7-2 times the dose for a slightly stronger effect. I am thinking about bringing 3 pills. One with 320mg in it to get me started and then a 120mg booster + 70mg booster *i will decide what booster pill (if any) to take based off how im feeling from that first one*

Does this sound like a reasonable/logical dose?
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Well since you are so new to mdma you can still roll pretty hard but trust me it only takes one time to screw it up. I used to get tempted to at these times so it shows I was an addict. When i started rolling I got away a couple time with doing it close together and still getting hit hard. However it will change and it also is damaging so regardless of what people say you will just have to learn for yourself, I am the same way but it's a shame you'll learn the hard way probably. I'd say you probably wouldn't need that much, if it's pure, then after 400 mg you'll get some pretty bad side effects and intense hallucinations. Also I'm not even sure if you have mdma, because I've lost the magic but one thing I always get is the most amazing body high it's indescribable. For four hours it's like every part of my body is having an orgasm, I could just sit with my hands in my pocket rubbing my leg all night but I prefer rubbing up on a prime bitch.
 
@struttergear, You're not giving poor advice.
Poor advice in this case is no advice or advising risky/unsafe dosages.

Based off what you said I am strongly considering bumping that first pill down to 275mg n take it from there.
I know it's not the smartest thing to do and normally I don't take advice too seriously from people who binge on drugs about those drugs that they binge on as it usually doesn't apply to me with minimal tolerance or no intent to get as high as they might want to.
The reason I ask my friends who use to binge on MDMA is because they have more experience with repetitive use and most others wouldn't have the experience to answer my question.
 
Spectre420 said:
@struttergear, You're not giving poor advice.
Poor advice in this case is no advice or advising risky/unsafe dosages.

Based off what you said I am strongly considering bumping that first pill down to 275mg n take it from there.
I know it's not the smartest thing to do and normally I don't take advice too seriously from people who binge on drugs about those drugs that they binge on as it usually doesn't apply to me with minimal tolerance or no intent to get as high as they might want to.
The reason I ask my friends who use to binge on MDMA is because they have more experience with repetitive use and most others wouldn't have the experience to answer my question.
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Thats a fuck of an initial dose to be honest. If you're doing do the 350 I said then break it down 200/150. The dose isn't even that big for your size, you are another half a person on me, and I'm 6ft4 200lb.

If you dont mind snorting then maybe even go 200mg capsule and 50mg line, then 100mg booster. The line will hit before your bomb, eases you into it and then all hits you in the end.

When I do my initial doses I always take a bit out of the first bomb and snort it.
 
@mj1945, I know its mdma
as stated above I know the source.
Also 2 of my friends (150/162lbs) took 125mg of the same batch and they had effects that lined up perfectly with mdma including that orgasmic body high.

@struttergear, the 200-50up the nose-100 sounds alot better than anything else I thought of. I think ill go this route.
 
I know you said you will do it but I personaly wouldnt take mdma more than once a week. you can only release so much serotonin and dosing again before your body has time to clean out the neurotoxins is a bad idea. E is tight tho and i dont think anything would stop you but just be informed.
 
So I did it.
I was going for the 200-50-100 dose struttergear recommended. After I did the 200mg I very quickly started to overheat to a very extreme level due to the place being packed 100% (literally) with people.
Sadly I spent the whole time sitting down in the lobby drinking water n feeling like shit instead of enjoying the event. (Never actually got to see it but I heard/felt it)
I don't regret doing this as it has taught me many priceless lessons and it did so without anything too bad happening to me.
The important thing is I'm alive. And on that note, StrutterGear I can't thank you enough for talking me down on my dose as you probably saved my life tonight.
 
My first time i was rolling i over heated, was in the crowds. Stay out of those if you wanna high dose, just chill with the people sitting down. Then you can get light shows, drink water, and feel relaxed.
 
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