Rock vs. Crystal

[quale]

So I got some meth today it isn't powder but it isn't glass/shards either. It is like crystalized lumps, looks kinda like hardened chalk. Now it smokes fine and gets me high, snorts etc. I am just wondering how this differs.
Does true glass have to be isometrically pure (i.e. if it is raciemetric is it no longer clear?) Is this is why my meth is sorta off white?
Are these just impurities left in the meth? Any guesses what they might be or the fabrication process might have been (i.e. can I estimate l vs. d meth vs. amphetamine vs. unreqacted ephedrine somehow from this...or get a guess).
Finally anyone have a good rule of thunb to guess the volume of a gram of meth (it is just my grams seem to change so much...some may have been generous but still....is the crystal/rock much denser than powder?

 

[xEx]

I was just talking to this guy last night and he mentioned the same kind of meth. I believe he said that anhydrous meth was a powdery white chalk rather than the crystal glass-like rocks you're used to. I'm not positive, but I believe that's what he said.

 

[jerzeezfinest]

from experience, i'd just say that its dirty meth...
if i were you, i'd do a cold acetone wash on it...

 

[quale]

Its dirty meth. Thanks. I thought it meant it was extra pure.
Sorry for being sarcastic still a little high. I just already knew it wasn't entierly pure and saying it is dirty doesn't really educate me at all.
I mean certainly the fact that it is not pure shards is evidence that it is not pure d-meth. However, at the same time it is still in hard rocks rather than having been powdered up. This suggests two possibilties to me.
First someone took some meth cut it and then pressed it back together to get rock like formations. This seems ridiculous.
Secondly this is the way it came directly from manufacture (or close to it). In other words whatever dirty process was used produced this substance. For more info it is a little yellow with pellets shaped like nerds candy. Not as hard but still brittle. Instead of cracking however they just sort of powder up usually.
Does anyone have any idea what sort of process/impurities could cause this? Drip seems to be about the same as for other meth/amphetamines (well not like adderall but that has all that extra shit). It seems (though will have to check more throughly) that all or nearly all of the substance vaporizes while smoking (reducing chances of a cut).
Secondly how bad would it be to shoot straight up...I am convinced an acetone wash done by someone like me would lose all ht e product.
[ 13 June 2002: Message edited by: quale ]

 

[akshEn74]

Ive come across meth like this before and also wondered what process resulted in these rocks??
Ive never had a problem injecting this,20 lines of water sprayed straight in the bag and it mulled up(mixed up whatever)perfectly clear.
I cant tell the difference between banging a point of these or a point of shards....sorry thats not very helpful 8)

 

[SovietContin]

It's dirty meth.. meaning it's been cut and most lkely rerocked somehow or someone liquified it with the cut so it would recrystalize, something like that.
Meth is a clear or translucent crystal. Anything else is cut.
A large rock of pure meth looks something like a clear piece of quartz.
And I would assume that a rock of it is much more dense than it would be powdered.

 

[NoriegA]

It's like that cause of the cut. The person who cut it might not of known what he was doin or was in a rush to do the job right. Glass is clear
and from what your describing that is not glass...

 

[quale]

I KNOW its not pure. But certain reactions leave products that look certain ways. For instance the nasty biker reaction that produce a half half l/d mix has a certain look (some early post don't remember). So I was wondering if someone had any idea what kind of process (and hence what the cut might be) would produce this.
Can you make racermic glass...i.e. glass *could* (though probably not) be a 50/50 mix no?

 

[badjessejames]

Alot of dealers I know mix meth with MSM....melt it down together...then when it cools it turns back into a rocks like you describe.
MSM smokes with no flavor and is water soluible, So you can't really tell that it's cut unless you do an acetone extraction...

 

[fairnymph]

Virtually *ALL* street speed/meth is d-methamphetamine, I believe....NOT racemic.

 

[PhreeX]

As fairnymph said - it's not racemic, why would you think it is? Just because it's not "as pure" as the clear shards you find in some areas; that doesn't automatically mean that it's not straight d-meth .. in fact, since methylamine and p2p were listed as precursors we have RARELY seen any d/l-meth, it's all been your straight d-meth ..
Now, what you had was simply the most common meth, the color and texture would indicate it's the most readily availale made from a reduction of ephedrine (what chemicals were used vary) .. if you wash this with ice cold acetone you will see some shards emerge.. the stuff you have (the solid chunks that look like "chalk" are most likely NOT CUT - you're just dealing with some stuff thats not of the same purity as the stuff you're used to - what you have is actually considered "pure" by some..