"Robotripping" on the Rise

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'Robotripping' is on the Rise

By Karen Kaplan and Seema Mehta
Los Angeles Times Staff Writers

4:06 PM PST, December 4, 2006

Teen use of over-the-counter cold and cough medicines to get a cheap high — a practice known as "robotripping" — is rising 50% a year and becoming one of the fastest growing drug abuse problems in California and around the country, according to a study released today.

Since 1999, teen abuse of Coricidin pills, Robutussin syrup and other common medications has risen tenfold, data from the California Poison Control System show. The widely available and inexpensive medicines are growing in popularity while use of illegal drugs such as Ecstasy, LSD and the date rape drug GHB have dropped, according to the report.

"Hey, Mom and Dad, pay attention," said Marilyn MacDougall, executive director of the Orange County Sheriff Department's drug abuse prevention program. "Over-the-counter medicines are the upcoming way your kids are going to abuse drugs."

The cold remedies are valued for an ingredient called dextromethorphan, which can cause hallucinations, out-of-body experiences and, in extreme cases, death. The drug, known by kids as DXM or Dex, was first abused in the 1960s when it was in a cough medicine called Romilar, which was withdrawn from the market in 1973.

Health officials spotted a revival in the late 1990s. About two-thirds of abusers now take Coricidin HBP Cold & Cough, whose candy red tablets are nicknamed CCC, triple C and skittles.

A study in May by the Partnership for a Drug-Free America estimated that 2.4 million teenagers — about 1 in 10 — got high on cough medicines in 2005. That puts it on a par with cocaine and slightly above methamphetamines.

School administrators are learning about the craze the hard way. In El Dorado, a community of apple orchards and Christmas tree farms outside Sacramento, seven high school students were rushed to the emergency room in October after taking Coricidin. The Union Mine High School students had purchased several boxes at a dollar store and swallowed five to eight tablets each during their morning snack time. Administrators learned about it after one student started vomiting in class.

"This is new to us — it caught a lot of people by surprise," said Principal Carl Fickle. "It didn't catch the kids by surprise."

The latest study, published in the December issue of the Archives of Pediatrics and Adolescent Medicine, found that the growth of dextromethorphan abuse is being driven by children between the ages of 9 and 17.

Abuse is most common among 15- and 16-year-olds, the study found. The number of 12- and 13-year-olds using the drug exceeds the number of 18-year-olds, indicating that it is popular in middle schools as well as high schools, according to senior author Ilene B. Anderson, a toxicology management specialist at the California Poison Control System in San Francisco.

"I did not expect 12-year-olds to be abusing it," Anderson said.

The study was based on 1,382 calls made to the California Poison Control Center over a six-year period that involved cases of dextromethorphan exposure. Those calls were generally made in emergency situations, usually by physicians treating overdose patients in hospitals. They represent only a fraction of overall drug use, Anderson said.

"If someone is abusing dextro and gets a high, they don't call us," she said. "I think it is grossly underreported."

Of the cases reported to the state poison control center, seven — amounting to 0.5% of the total — were life-threatening. None resulted in death, according to the study. The number of deaths nationwide is unknown.

The researchers compared the California findings to general statistics from the American Assn. of Poison Control Centers and the Drug Abuse Warning Network and found that the trends here are in line with the rest of the country.

Dextromethorphan appeals to teenagers because it "is easily and legally available in most pharmacies and large grocery stores," Anderson said. "It's relatively inexpensive — in many cases, one package can cause hallucinations."

Websites offer testimonials about the buzz the drug provides. Some users describe it as "slightly intoxicating," while others compare their experiences to the hallucinatory effects of ketamine or PCP.

Dextromethorphan users can consult online calculators — where they enter their weight, brand of medicine and "plateau" of high they want to achieve — to determine how big a dose to take.

Because the cough remedies look innocuous, Anderson said, "you can have a package and your parents would never even suspect it, compared to a little white bag of powder which certainly would cause a red flag to go up."

When taken in large quantities, dextromethorphan can make the heart race and blood pressure rise. Some users become agitated while others become lethargic, confused, dizzy or act as if they are inebriated. Life-threatening side-effects include seizures and elevated body temperature, Anderson said.

Users can also have adverse reactions from overdosing on other ingredients in the cold remedies. High quantities of pseudoephedrine and antihistamines can cause irregular heartbeats, high blood pressure and seizures, Anderson said.

"The one that scares me the most is acetaminophen [the medicine in Tylenol] because it can cause liver failure," she said.

State lawmakers in California and elsewhere have tried to ban sales to minors of the hundreds of products that contain dextromethorphan, but those efforts have failed. Some drug stores, including Walgreen's, Rite Aid and Wal-Mart, have voluntarily restricted access to customers younger than 18.

U.S. consumers spent about $4.5 billion on cold and cough remedies last year, according to the Consumer Healthcare Products Assn., a trade group representing manufacturers of over-the-counter medicines. The group is pushing federal legislation to ban online sales of pure dextromethorphan in powdered form and is working to shut down websites promoting the drug's recreational use, said President Linda Suydam.

Federal legislation that would restrict the sale of dextromethorphan powder to researchers, drug makers and other legitimate users is expected to be voted on this week by the House of Representatives. The legislative effort was prompted by the overdose deaths last year of five teenagers in Florida, Washington and Virginia.

Teens are continuing to die from the habit, including 16-year-old Lucia Martino, a junior at Canyon High School in Anaheim.

In September, the gregarious soccer player swallowed 20 Coricidin pills in pursuit of a cheap high while the rest of her family slept. Her mother found her vomiting the next morning and took her to the emergency room.

Doctors were baffled by her malfunctioning liver and struggled to pinpoint the cause. Four days later, after Lucia had fallen into a coma, a friend pulled a nurse aside and told her about the pills.

It was too late. Martino died less than a day later, on Sept. 17. At the funeral, her parents left the casket open so the hundreds of teens in attendance could see how the pills had swelled Lucia's athletic, 125-pound frame to a bloated 170 pounds.

http://www.latimes.com/features/hea...5,0,3299069,full.story?coll=la-home-headlines
 
It mentions Coricidin so many times, now all I can think about is doing the wrong kind!

On a serious note, a few things caught my attention...

"Dextromethorphan users can consult online calculators - where they enter their weight, brand of medicine and "plateau" of high they want to achieve - to determine how big a dose to take."

That's a good thing, help prevent bad trips, and overdose.


"in many cases, one package can cause hallucinations."

One package causing hallucinations? That's 600mg in one box, I am yet to see that.


"U.S. consumers spent about $4.5 billion on cold and cough remedies last year, according to the Consumer Healthcare Products Assn., a trade group representing manufacturers of over-the-counter medicines."

A good 80% of that was because of me...;)

Thanks for posting this Banquo
 
took them long enough... serioulsy the whole robotripping thing has been around for a while. in highschool i did it, however infrequently (i was one of those kids you hear about on shows like the oc n shit... coke it up or toke it up, but somehow no one ever suspected me...) i knew of kids who, because of socio (sic)-economic status would trip on dxm more than once a week.

maybe parents should just be more vigalent. although i continue to use drugs, i by no means advocate their use to anyone too young to understand the ramifications. i would venture to state (at the risk of being attacked by slews of angry highschool age bluelighters) that most people still in middle and highschool have no grasp what so ever on the mental aspects of drug use and instead just like to get fucked up. thats all well and good, by all means go out and and have a few beers, smoke some pot or whatever, but dont blast your minds off into the disassociative state, at least not until your done growing
 
You know, I think they're trying to make it look bad.8) Typical. Why can't any journalist say something POSITIVE or at least NEUTRAL about drugs? Robotussin, especially.
 
State lawmakers in California and elsewhere have tried to ban sales to minors of the hundreds of products that contain dextromethorphan, but those efforts have failed. Some drug stores, including Walgreen's, Rite Aid and Wal-Mart, have voluntarily restricted access to customers younger than 18.

All I care to say about this article is that I never once spent a dime on the dxm products I used recreationally during my younger days. If it's really that big of a deal, they'll put the robitussin behind the pharmacy counter (next to the sudafed). Only time will tell.
 
The cold remedies are valued for an ingredient called dextromethorphan, which can cause hallucinations, out-of-body experiences and, in extreme cases, death.

The liquid sustenance milked from cows is valued for an ingredient called calcium, which can cause stronger bones and, in extreme cases, death.
 
If it's really that big of a deal, they'll put the robitussin behind the pharmacy counter (next to the sudafed). Only time will tell.
It is over here in Australia, nearly every single pharmaceutical is, it's a good system.
 
Nah, people should just understand to purify their DXM before swallowing it; there's really only good sides to that drug, but the other ingredients in cough syrups and pills are seriously baaad shit.
 
GHB is not really a date rape drug as much as its a recreational one. stupid journalists.

every one who robotrips here knows not to use coriciden, i assumed that was common knowledge.
 
every one who robotrips here knows not to use coriciden, i assumed that was common knowledge.
The message is blasted loud and clear hear on Bluelight, but on the other DXM specific forums there are a lot of very well educated DXM users that still use Coricidin which is very dissapointing.
 
i dont know that many people who would ever want to take it that frequently. I did it a bunch of times, but never within short time periods...
I think there's more potential for people to turn themselves off to DXM than get seriously hooked on it. I assume it would be rather unpleasant for most people.
 
The group is pushing federal legislation to ban online sales of pure dextromethorphan in powdered form and is working to shut down websites promoting the drug's recreational use, said President Linda Suydam.

Goodbye Bluelight8)
 
Well, if I'm not mistaken, Bluelight is out of federal reach...and I don't think it would count, because everytime someone mentions DXM, they're going to tell you that ketamine is a jillion times better.


Which it isn't.
 
i enjoyed dxm. 2nd plateau nice smooth high that lasted through the night.

i have yet to try k
 
New said:
Well, if I'm not mistaken, Bluelight is out of federal reach...and I don't think it would count, because everytime someone mentions DXM, they're going to tell you that ketamine is a jillion times better.


Which it isn't.
Comes down to preference. The vast majority will like K more for some of the following reasons:
1. You're less likely to puke
2. It mixes great with quite a few other drugs
3. It has a relatively short duration
4. No hangover
5. You don't have to chug a disgusting tasting syrup to get its effects.

So I don't know about a jillion times better but overall it definitely comes across as the more user friendly fun drug.

I've heard high doses of DXM are pretty insane but I would never be able to get that far because I would ALWAYS puke. Without fail.
 
You're right, it DOES come down to preference. DXM:

1.Lasts longer
2.Hits harder
3.Variable dosage
4.Mixes insanely well with weed
5.DXM can be extracted, or you can use a non-syrup product.

But this is about a news article about a bullshit organization trying to ban something because of a bunch of retards that OD'ed or used CCC's and trying to present information as the devil.
 
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