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ROA Legality Question

Oxycondone

Oxycondone

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Hey guys,

Just wondering if you have a pill, legally, say asprin and you choose to inject/snort/rectally administer that pill is that technically illegal or just frowned upon?

What if you where to IV salt water (isotonic solution for example) or snort sherbert? Would that also be classified illegal under australian law?

Sounds like a silly question but I was thinking about it the other day and the hypothetical that say needles where found in someone's room at the place I'm staying they could be evicted because they signed a contract which indicated any use of illegal drugs will cause termination of the accommodation agreement. But what if the needles where used to shoot up a pill whether it be OTC or prescription or if it was used to shoot up water (if they where cleaned it that could be used as an excuse if the person in question was studying to be a doctor). Same hypothetical if that person was to be unlucky enough to be caught snorting in the act.

Please don't flame me. I'm seriously interested in the outcome of this. Sorry if it has been mentioned somewhere else on this site, I couldn't find it.

Thanks in advanced.
 
I dont think roots of administration are illegal, It would be your choice of what you were administering that would either be illegal or not.......anyway you kind of answered your own question "signed a contract which indicated any use of illegal drugs", also diabetics use needles to administer insulin
 
QFT^

the thing is most people can make a pretty accurate guess depending on the state of the room..

a junkie will have a fairly dirty space with heaps of needles, while a diabetic will have maybe 1 or 2 lying about with a sharps box somewhere

Also a diabetic won't have trackmarks up their arms lol
 
My room is as clean as they come, bed made with hospital corners and everything. But if you looked hard you could find needles hidden in my room and the traces on my arm. I'm sure they would kick me out if they knew but I'm just wondering if I could fight it. Anyway my days of injecting Dilaudid are over I was just merely interested in my legal position in the matter.
 
^ are you living by yourself or are you sharing. If your by yourself no one would ever find out. if your with people who you don't get along with and are the type who would dob you in then I can see your problem.

Ditto if your living in some sort of residential college for university or something similiar.
 
Specific ROA's aren't illegal. I imagine though that in the situation you described, the burden of proof would probably be on you to prove that the needles weren't used for illegal drugs and were for soluble aspirin or whatever. ;)
 
Wow I was almost sure someone would say it would be illegal. So I can sit on a park bench in a crowded place and happily shoot up dilaudid legally? Not that I'd ever do that but I'm glad to know I'm not breaking the law with my drug habits :)
 
^ If you are Rx'd the dilaudid then go for it. Otherwise you are in possession of a controlled substance, and regardless I imagine that sitting on a park bench would get you some unwanted attention which might trickle back to your doctor who wouldn't be too happy to hear about it. ;)
 
Wouldn't injecting drugs not specifically for injection be a crime in the same sense that CWE is technically a crime? (I think anyway)

Like say you are scripted MSCONTINS, a doctor has given you express permission to take an extended release formulation of morphine orally, if you crush, add water to and then filter that pill up into a syringe you have created (and are presumably about to administer) an IR dose to be taken by a ROA not expressly outlined by the physician and which has a considerably higher bioavailability.

I remember in High School you could get in trouble for snorting ritalin whether you had a prescription for it or not! LOL. Seriously though, if you were just chilling in your car about to push off a solution of a prescription medication and a cop notices, I don't think showing him the pill bottle with your name on it is going to dissuade him from charging you with something... but I am just guessing/speculating so who knows.

I don't imagine in the case of any OTC or 100% non restricted substance it could be a crime to inject it however.
 
^ A CWE is a crime though because you are separating the codeine from the other ingredient, which technically makes it a S8 drug. I have never heard of anyone being charged with that though.

I imagine that in that weird situation, the cop would probably resort to charging you with something else. Public intoxication? Disturbing the peace? However it ends up it wouldn't be good, and shooting up in public is not a good idea.
 
This is getting even more interesting. I'm going to look up some articles and stories and stuff on the net a bit later see if I can clarify what drug mentor posted. Only problem is it is hard to find australian articles amongst all the american ones.
 
Mr Blonde that is a good point but don't you think one could argue that there are mechanisms in place in extended release tablets formulated atleast in part to prevent abuse and by loading it into a syringe and shooting it you are seperating the drug from the abuse proofing, which is essentially all NSAIDs mixed with codeine are when you think about it. I suppose there is a distinction between seperating two active ingredients and one active ingredient from an abuse proofing mechanism but in reality they are both cheeky ways of altering the form of the drug to make it more convenient/enjoyable to abuse.

I am just speculating as I don't know the law but I have a feeling that most magistrates and police would choose to interpret the law in this way, I mean it would be pretty damn illogical to fuck someone up for CWE but shooting tablets is fine...
 
^ I see what your getting at, but the difference with codeine and APAP/ibuprofen/aspirin is that codeine is S8 unless it is mixed with those ingredients; whereas something like morphine is S8 anyway and changing it's delivery mechanism is not altering the schedule. So it would be a different kind of illegality, if it is illegal at all.

I do imagine that if you were caught doing that there would be some kind of repercussions... I just can't imagine what law they would charge you under if you were doing it privately at home.
 
You raise a good point mr Blonde and that is hard to rebutt, I also struggle to think what laws you would be charged under but even if they had to get creative I am pretty sure the jacks would charge someone with injecting recreationally.

Doing it privately at home I really don't see as a legal issue, much like doing CWE at home. Really any form of illicit or licit drug use down in the privacy of your home isn't very likely to recieve any unwanted attention from law enforcement.
 
I'm guessing you may need a certain qualification to be able to legally inject yourself IV. Just an idea, I'll look into it when I have more time.
 
^ more like a medical requirement


the qualification is probly just a 20 minute instructional video;)


Thing is nothing really needs to be injected intravenously unless its an emergency..

diabetics get IM's as does people with severe allergies get adrenalin..
 
I recall reading an article a few years back where a rural doctor got in shit for scripting out dilaudid ampoules to this lady and telling her to shoot 5mL instead of 5mg or something like that and she died. She may well of been trained to IV, it seems like common sense anyone scripted the shit would be taught how to use it... but I can't help but feel most trained people would take half a second to perform a google search so who knows.
 
poledriver said:
Google has the option to just get results that are 'Pages from Australia'
It's on the left hand side on my browser.
Click to expand...

Problem with that is it limits all the results to .au websites whereas you will find a lot of australian content is actually hosted on american servers or uses the common .com domain as they are a lot cheaper and subject to less restrictions than .au domains.

Look at bluelight for example, it has a .ru domain however I doubt it was founded by Russians nor is most of the content on here relevant to Russians yet bluelight would be filtered out by google if you did a location search unless you use google.ru.
 
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