Been exploring ritalin for a week or or so, fantastic for pulling a day on housework or gardening. Seems to give you boundless energy and mental focus so that you don't get bored. I find it a lot more effective than speed. Seems to crash out after about 6-7 hours and you just fall asleep. Are there any ritalin fans amongst us?
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Ritalin - the drug speed was supposed to be?
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Tried it a couple of times and both times ended up fiending out on the stuff and making myself feel 'orrible.
I'm sure it's when of those genuine 'less is more' things which I can never get the hang of
...tended to crush the pills and snort them as well which I suspect didnt help.
I guess you took it orally and didnt get stupid with the dose ? it seemed quite functional but just did have the intensity and rush I was seeking, hence I took more and more 8)
I recall it is supposed to be more similar in action to Cocaine that Amphetamine, that and one of the Everly brothers was addicted to the stuff... **random facts**
I'm sure it's when of those genuine 'less is more' things which I can never get the hang of
...tended to crush the pills and snort them as well which I suspect didnt help.I guess you took it orally and didnt get stupid with the dose ? it seemed quite functional but just did have the intensity and rush I was seeking, hence I took more and more 8)
I recall it is supposed to be more similar in action to Cocaine that Amphetamine, that and one of the Everly brothers was addicted to the stuff... **random facts**
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Methylphenidate is a fairly decent stimulant, as long as you take 3 or 4 times the therapeutic dose - but its not a patch on amphetamine IMO. I suspect you still haven't found any decent speed yet, which is distorting your perception of other stimulants.
Yeah I must admit it's not a high I'd die for but for carrying out mundane tasks - if god made anything better he saved it for himself.
Dosage I find 10 or 20mg split an hour or so apart fine. Perhaps an extra 10mg a couple hours after that. Not sure anymore does any good because you're going to hit the wall after about 6-7 hours anyway.
An Everly hooked on it? Didn't realise it was that old a drug...
Dosage I find 10 or 20mg split an hour or so apart fine. Perhaps an extra 10mg a couple hours after that. Not sure anymore does any good because you're going to hit the wall after about 6-7 hours anyway.
An Everly hooked on it? Didn't realise it was that old a drug...
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God did make something better for carrying out mundane tasks - its called Heroin.
Sounds like a sensible and functional dosage schedule, given your lack of satisfaction with Amphetmines maybe this stuff just suits your needs better.
I believe it was prescribed from the 1950's onwards, Don Everly was known to have had a long term problem with the stuff, I guess it would have started with a legitimate script.
I'd avoid snorting the stuff, the drip is brutal and snorting pills with all those fillers is always a bit grim and I'm sure that ROA tends to make it a bit sketchy.
Nope methamphetamine has to be the winner for such things surely, I completely rewired my main desktop computer at 3am a few weeks back, fuck that cabling is tidy
I believe it was prescribed from the 1950's onwards, Don Everly was known to have had a long term problem with the stuff, I guess it would have started with a legitimate script.
I'd avoid snorting the stuff, the drip is brutal and snorting pills with all those fillers is always a bit grim and I'm sure that ROA tends to make it a bit sketchy.
Nope methamphetamine has to be the winner for such things surely, I completely rewired my main desktop computer at 3am a few weeks back, fuck that cabling is tidy
TBF I've no experience of Heroin although a fair bit with Morphine, I'm led to believe that once you get past the throwing up bit it is quite stimulating....for a bit.
I do find that for getting stuff done lower dosing ( speed in my case ) works best, to much and I might get stuff done but it probably wasnt what I wanted to get done and often didnt need doing
I do find that for getting stuff done lower dosing ( speed in my case ) works best, to much and I might get stuff done but it probably wasnt what I wanted to get done and often didnt need doing
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In theory, maybe. But the problem for me with stims is avoiding distractions, e.g. my cock....
Hmmm, I tend to find the first 5-6 hours is the best window for constructive tasks, once I've gotten totally out of control it can be more hit and miss. I tend to get focused on largely pointless tasks or obsessing so much in the detail a 30minute job takes 5 hours, but I do a fekin champion job of it
I try and avoid the marathon porn sessions...mostly
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I've heard of a some local teachers talking to parents in order to induce them to take their kids to certain doctors who would prescribe Ritalin to their kids and of course they would study better and do their homework accordingly and behave better basically. It's a dangerous situation when you feel you can only operate well if chemically induced.
Some drugs could have an effect on an individual so he or she could be chemically motivated and perform operational duties but when this is over, at one time or another depression may take place. My niece had that experience and is now taking medications against depression in addition with another prescribed pill. She's 15!!
Stimulants will obviously work but at what cost?
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I tend to agree, I've seen it prescribed to a 12 year old after an ADHD diagnosis. I knew this child well from birth and they had a very disturbed childhood, no stable home and many male figures walking in and out of their life.
Their behavioural problems were perfectly normal given the circumstances, a bit of love and caring is what was required not heavy duty stimulants FFS.
That said I have also spoken to people that provide 1 to 1 care for children with ADHD and similar conditions and they have witnessed these drugs having profound positive effects when prescribed to the right individuals along side special learning environments and close monitoring.
IMHO ADHD and similar conditions are often used as an easy cop-out when dealing with children with challenging behaviour, we fuck them up and then medicate them rather than address their actual needs which are often blatently obvious
I tend to agree, I've seen it prescribed to a 12 year old after an ADHD diagnosis. I knew this child well from birth and they had a very disturbed childhood, no stable home and many male figures walking in and out of their life.
Their behavioural problems were perfectly normal given the circumstances, a bit of love and caring is what was required not heavy duty stimulants FFS.
That said I have also spoken to people that provide 1 to 1 care for children with ADHD and similar conditions and they have witnessed these drugs having profound positive effects when prescribed to the right individuals along side special learning environments and close monitoring.
IMHO ADHD and similar conditions are often used as an easy cop-out when dealing with children with challenging behaviour, we fuck them up and then medicate them rather than address their actual needs which are often blatently obvious
Without looking on Google, I'm going to say that I'm certain that Ritalin being prescribed for ADHD has only been a thing since the '90s (at least here). I say this, because I was never diagnosed with ADHD, as a child, because it didn't seem to exist. Looking back, Ritalin could have completely changed my life. I'm going to attempt to get an adult diagnosis, as I've still got a lot of the symptoms and I love amphetamine (perhaps too much). It'd be nice to control both issues with a prescription.
I've never actually had methylphenidate, but I can't imagine I'd enjoy it more than speed. I've had quite a lot of ethylphenidate, but that's more of a pretend drug. Really not that nice. Have you tried meth, Issy?
I've never actually had methylphenidate, but I can't imagine I'd enjoy it more than speed. I've had quite a lot of ethylphenidate, but that's more of a pretend drug. Really not that nice. Have you tried meth, Issy?
More than likely, I don't even think ADHD was a defined condition until around then, they called it hyperactivity prior to that, I believe they also prescribed it for depression back then and probably anything else that seemed appropriate :D
Ha, just like amphetamine used to be sold over the counter, prescribed for loads of reasons, and occasionally still is (unless you live in America, where it's still commonly prescribed). You seem to understand where I'm coming from, with regards to ADHD. I was just 'a naughty child'. If it was now, I would have been diagnosed within minutes. Either way, despite massive self-medication and other issues, I'm slowly moving forward. No point dwelling on it!
You seem to understand where I'm coming from, with regards to ADHD. I was just 'a naughty child'. If it was now, I would have been diagnosed within minutes. Either way, despite massive self-medication and other issues, I'm slowly moving forward. No point dwelling on it!
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I very much doubt you would be able to get a Ritalin script as an adult having never been diagnosed as a child. I was prescribed Ritalin for years but once you are considered to be beyond adolescent they don't really like giving it to you anymore.
Been considering asking to go back on it myself when work loads get high and stress levels rise. IIRC it's not something all doctors can prescribe so you will probably get a flat no from your GP.
Concerta SR are the slow release version which are much less abusable but I found were much more effective as the dose was quite consistent throughout the day rather than having to redose every 4? hours I think my advised dosage pattern was.
If you try and abuse the concerta tablets be ready to be awake for a long time. They have an outside film which contains the initial dose then a slow release waxy centre, I broke a few up into small pieces a few times and swallowed them. Didn't sleep for over 24 hours, although I didn't have any benzos to hand at the time so couldn't comment on how easy it would be to sleep with those on hand.
Been considering asking to go back on it myself when work loads get high and stress levels rise. IIRC it's not something all doctors can prescribe so you will probably get a flat no from your GP.
Concerta SR are the slow release version which are much less abusable but I found were much more effective as the dose was quite consistent throughout the day rather than having to redose every 4? hours I think my advised dosage pattern was.
If you try and abuse the concerta tablets be ready to be awake for a long time. They have an outside film which contains the initial dose then a slow release waxy centre, I broke a few up into small pieces a few times and swallowed them. Didn't sleep for over 24 hours, although I didn't have any benzos to hand at the time so couldn't comment on how easy it would be to sleep with those on hand.
Ha, just like amphetamine used to be sold over the counter, prescribed for loads of reasons, and occasionally still is (unless you live in America, where it's still commonly prescribed).
I don't disbelieve there are children that develop ADHD for reasons other than their environment I just think like so many things it is over diagnosed and over medicated. I used to believe that using something like Ritalin was was wrong but having spoken to more experienced people it seems some may well benefit.
I'm pretty sure I would have been diagnosed with something or another, I had problems almost immediately at school with writing. I'm pretty sure I started out left handed but in the 70's they 'encouraged' you not to be so weird. I can't write legibly with either hand and right with my right hand but hold the pen like I'm left handed and I struggle to spell quite simple words (thank fek for the computer) even today, they never look right. I'm also fairly certain I would be diagnosed on the out edges of the autistic spectrum for numerous reasons.
I'm kinda glad I didn't pick up any of those labels, I pretty much stopped hand writing anything anyone else had to read when I started my first (first full time proper) job 25 years ago at a technology company, the VT220 was my savior.
Giving me prescription stimulants would not be a sensible idea
A mate of mine was recently diagnosed with adult ADHD, and has been on Ritalin and Concerta (both methylphenidate, but Concerta is extended release, I believe). He saw a specialist and has encouraged me to do the same, as he can see I'm self-medicating the same condition. To be fair, my whizz tolerance is quite stupid now, so normal doses of Ritalin/Concerta aren't going to touch me, without a period of abstinence. I'd be willing to abstain, if I could get that diagnosis.
ADHD is often linked with anxiety/panic disorders, depression and addiction, as sufferers get older, and I definitely fit the criteria. A lack of dopamine in certain areas of the brain is going to cause issues, if it carries on into adulthood...
ponch
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Interesting to hear about adults getting a prescription, I assumed that it would be very hard to come by as its not licenced for use in adults in the UK.
I personally find it is a condition that does not go away, you just become far better at managing the symptoms of the condition as you get older.
For me (& my brother, who are both diagnosed) finding hobbies that really hold your attention is probably the best way of combating self destructive behaviour. I know it's easier said than done to find something that can hold your attention for more than a limited amount of time.
Anyway I feel like I'm preaching a bit. If you feel like it will help then definitely go for it. I imagine you will be able to tell within a month or whether you are getting any real benefit.
In the short term you could try Piracetam + a source of choline as I've heard pretty good things about that combination. I've yet to try it myself but will be getting straight on it as soon as in back in the UK in a few months time.
I personally find it is a condition that does not go away, you just become far better at managing the symptoms of the condition as you get older.
For me (& my brother, who are both diagnosed) finding hobbies that really hold your attention is probably the best way of combating self destructive behaviour. I know it's easier said than done to find something that can hold your attention for more than a limited amount of time.
Anyway I feel like I'm preaching a bit. If you feel like it will help then definitely go for it. I imagine you will be able to tell within a month or whether you are getting any real benefit.
In the short term you could try Piracetam + a source of choline as I've heard pretty good things about that combination. I've yet to try it myself but will be getting straight on it as soon as in back in the UK in a few months time.
Once orally treacle. Great for 3 or 4 hours but then an atrocious nauseous comedown for about 19 hours. At least with my new mate ritalin there's not much of a comedown.
I don't think I'd take it every day - just when I needed the housework doing.