Stimulants ritalin and anxiety

[becuzaliens]

Just wondering of other peoples experience with excessive anxiety from the drug. I've been taking mostly ritalin since first grade (i'm 25 y/o now) I took ritalin for most of my school years shortly trying adderal a few times... I noticed a severe problem with anxiety, mostly social anxiety. I went though addiction of cocaine and pharms and then I got clean for many years. I stopped taking ritalin and amphetamines routinely around the end of high school but every now and then I'll try them to try and get high or just to see if they will help me but they make me even more anxious and nervous than I already am. Even sober I am extremely anti-social and very nervous around other people. It gets 10x worse when I take amphetamines, i basically can't even talk to anyone. That makes me wonder if maybe it was the 18 years of taking ritalin as I was raised that caused this problem with anxiety.

P.S. on a semi-unrelated note, I once snorted an entire bottle of twice a day 20mg amphetamine tablets (60 pills) in 12 hrs. I didnt realize at the time what I was doing and I'm very lucky that I did not have to go to the hospital or anything. But ever since then (about 5 years ago) I've had high blood pressure. I'm not sure if that's the direct result or not but would be my best guess.

 

[GoooMz]

Only anxiety until i recharge the batteries (IE Sleep, eat, shower, go outside). I think it mainly comes from the lack of sleep. Funny because i'm coming down from a little bender myself with it, but a bottle? damn. I would find it hard to draw a connection between a one time incident and your blood pressure 5 years later, given your youth. I'm not a doctor though.

 

[becuzaliens]

Only anxiety until i recharge the batteries (IE Sleep, eat, shower, go outside). I think it mainly comes from the lack of sleep. Funny because i'm coming down from a little bender myself with it, but a bottle? damn. I would find it hard to draw a connection between a one time incident and your blood pressure 5 years later, given your youth. I'm not a doctor though.

thanks for the input, I'm not sayin it was that incident that would caused the HBP but all my doctors always say how its so strange for some one as young as me to have HBP and I just get to thinkin maybe it was all that ritalin I took.

 

[BlueHues]

Just wondering of other peoples experience with excessive anxiety from the drug. I've been taking mostly ritalin since first grade (i'm 25 y/o now) I took ritalin for most of my school years shortly trying adderal a few times... I noticed a severe problem with anxiety, mostly social anxiety. I went though addiction of cocaine and pharms and then I got clean for many years. I stopped taking ritalin and amphetamines routinely around the end of high school but every now and then I'll try them to try and get high or just to see if they will help me but they make me even more anxious and nervous than I already am. Even sober I am extremely anti-social and very nervous around other people. It gets 10x worse when I take amphetamines, i basically can't even talk to anyone. That makes me wonder if maybe it was the 18 years of taking ritalin as I was raised that caused this problem with anxiety.

P.S. on a semi-unrelated note, I once snorted an entire bottle of 20mg amphetamine tablets (30 pills) in 12 hrs. I didnt realize at the time what I was doing and I'm very lucky that I did not have to go to the hospital or anything. But ever since then (about 5 years ago) I've had high blood pressure. I'm not sure if that's the direct result or not but would be my best guess.

Stimulants sometimes have that effect on me. If I'm anxious to begin with, or if I'm worrying excessively about something, it seems to be more likely to happen.

I'm sure abuse of stimulants may a play a part in your anxiety of taking them now. I've pushed the envelope quite a few times with stimulants, and I think it has permanently changed me somehow...I'm much more sensitive to stimulants in general, and I can really only do them for one 24 hour go, anything more and the negatives outweigh the positives for me. I would take a long break, maybe a year or more, wait until you're in a good place with your life, and maybe try it again and see how it treats you..

There's no sense in taking a drug that's only making you feel bad!

Also, I was on Ritalin from age 7, and was abusing it by 13. I find it produce much more anxiety than Adderall and D-amphetamine. I think Methylphenidate is nasty stuff personally, but all stimulants will eventually turn on you if you don't give yourself time to replenish what you lose from using them.

 

[GoooMz]

Im 23 and I have slightly high blood pressure. It also runs in my family, and my diet could be better. I believe those two things have precedence over past drug use.

 

[becuzaliens]

thanks bluehues I get the same feeling about it permanently changing the way my brain functions... I'll take your advice about having a break from them

and GoooMz very interesting for you to say that because both my parents suffer from HBP and I also have had the worst diet imaginable the past few years....

 

[becuzaliens]

having anxiety attack

I've recently refilled a prescription for methylphendiate, a medicine i had been taking for most of my life as prescribed for A.D.D. in school, but I haven't taken it routinely in years... now I'll just take it every now and then when I want to get high. But tbh I hate it, or atleast I think i do, but I still love it. It makes me extremely anxious when I do it, very nervous. I've always had a really bad problem with anxiety in social environments around other people. I think that's a direct result with taking 40 mg of ritalin or adderal every day of my life growing up. Now I'm only snorting these pills cuz i want to get high and its all i got. problem is when I do it i get even worse anxiety, and i don't stop. I'll just keep doing them even though I know I'm not enjoying it. Just like when I was in high school and I tripped on DXM like every day. I hated it cuz I would get really bad trips all the time with extreme anxiety, they would be traumatizing just from my own thoughts... but I kept doing it because something deep inside of me loved the excitement and chaos. I've snorted about 40mg of methylphenidate, but note that I haven't taken any in years so I have like no tolerance, and I'm freaking out with anxiety, I live by myself in an apartment and that's where I am now. I just get scared like if some one knocks on the door or the phone rings I'd flip out, I wouldn't know how to act and they'd probably think I was retarded. I'm now trying to down some rum to try and help ease the anxiety. My favorite pill is xanax because that literally fixes me perfectly. when I take like half a mg I feel totally normal and I can talk to anyone with no anxiety at all but everytime I try to ask the doctor for something like that they just give me anti depressants SSRI's and say im depressed.

my anxiety is like rushing thoughts of something, anything bad happening. my health (i have HBP), people in my family or at my job finding out, cops or anyone or anything at all. My worst trip i ever had was after taking like 20 triple c's and for hours I had 3 thoughts circling around my head, it was like this, first i thought i was gonna die cuz i od'd or something, then I was like no I'll just be retarded like a vegetable the rest of my life, then I'd be like no I'll be okay just wait it out, and those three thoughts circled repeated themselves for hours. thats what my anxiety is like. completely ridiculous thoughts that I know are not true but I believe them anyway.

I don't know why I'm making this thread It just feels good to type it all out and share what im going though with others... I always keep this bottled up inside.

 

[beforethebeginning]

How much is your blood pressure sober?
I wouldn't do uppers if i had high bp. There's Always something else u could do other than uppers.
Even if just some beers.

My blood pressure is ok and for years i already used to freak out on caffeine, (a lifelong anxiety problem that got out of hand during a psychedelic trip one day)
although recently I managed to start drinking coffee again.

Sort of conquered my fear I guess. By accepting that my death is out of my control and I've just got to go with the flow.
Maybe the anxiety is still there, but no longer in my body.

Or maybe it would be more correct to say that lately,
my anxiety is just everywhere around and in me... but because I feel detached from myself/body,
it's no longer in my field of consciousness.

Anxiety's a great mindfuck.

~~~~

To theOP, i figure u could do 0,5mg of xanax twice a week and not really suffer much rebound anxiety or physical withdrawal symptoms.
Doing it more often than that could be causing troubles in that area.

 

[Zerrr]

You just gotta ride it out. I and many others have called 911 before and that is something you'll usually regret within a few mins.

I was listening to BeforetheBeginning earlier today..John Frusciante

 

[becuzaliens]

my blood pressure is ussually a little high when sober like 140ish over 70ish and I've been checking it cuz i have my own thing to check it and its actually normal or lowish, last time i checked it ( like 30 mins ago) it was like 128/67 or something which is really good.

I'm not gonna call 911 unless i know there is something seriously wrong, i feel pretty good though. as of now I've snorted 100 mg in the past 9 and a half hours (on top of about 8 shots of rum in the past 4 hrs) and while I feel okay as a 5'10'' male at 215lbs... it still sounds like a crazy amount, thats while I'm a little worried that maybe I've done too much.

 

[PriestTheyCalledHim]

Don't drink more alcohol or take any more drugs including the Methylphenidate. Instead just turn off the phone, lock the door, lie down, breathe, and concentrate on your breathing, and understand that it will pass. Don't redose the Methylphenidate or take other drugs. If you are worried about HBP talk to a doctor or medical professional and be honest about panic/anxiety and the drugs you take. Good luck.

I read your newest post. If that's the case flush the rum and pills, and do not refill the prescription or buy more alcohol.

 

[becuzaliens]

It's easier said than done, to just "stop drinking and snorting the pills" as it stands now I still have over half the bottle of methylphendiate left and half a bottle of rum left. While I'd love to be back to my normal self, the urges to just do more are overwhelming. I absolutely despise the utter peice of shit of a person I have become. I live by myself and I only concern myself with myself. while I yearn to become an overall good person that carries out good deeds for others and hardly thinks of himself. As my complete sober self I eventually lose all motivation to do anything, and with methylphenidate I just don't know when, in fact, physically can't stop until they are all gone.

 

[Trippingballz]

I've recently refilled a prescription for methylphendiate, a medicine i had been taking for most of my life as prescribed for A.D.D. in school, but I haven't taken it routinely in years... now I'll just take it every now and then when I want to get high. But tbh I hate it, or atleast I think i do, but I still love it. It makes me extremely anxious when I do it, very nervous. I've always had a really bad problem with anxiety in social environments around other people. I think that's a direct result with taking 40 mg of ritalin or adderal every day of my life growing up. Now I'm only snorting these pills cuz i want to get high and its all i got. problem is when I do it i get even worse anxiety, and i don't stop. I'll just keep doing them even though I know I'm not enjoying it. Just like when I was in high school and I tripped on DXM like every day. I hated it cuz I would get really bad trips all the time with extreme anxiety, they would be traumatizing just from my own thoughts... but I kept doing it because something deep inside of me loved the excitement and chaos. I've snorted about 40mg of methylphenidate, but note that I haven't taken any in years so I have like no tolerance, and I'm freaking out with anxiety, I live by myself in an apartment and that's where I am now. I just get scared like if some one knocks on the door or the phone rings I'd flip out, I wouldn't know how to act and they'd probably think I was retarded. I'm now trying to down some rum to try and help ease the anxiety. My favorite pill is xanax because that literally fixes me perfectly. when I take like half a mg I feel totally normal and I can talk to anyone with no anxiety at all but everytime I try to ask the doctor for something like that they just give me anti depressants SSRI's and say im depressed.

my anxiety is like rushing thoughts of something, anything bad happening. my health (i have HBP), people in my family or at my job finding out, cops or anyone or anything at all. My worst trip i ever had was after taking like 20 triple c's and for hours I had 3 thoughts circling around my head, it was like this, first i thought i was gonna die cuz i od'd or something, then I was like no I'll just be retarded like a vegetable the rest of my life, then I'd be like no I'll be okay just wait it out, and those three thoughts circled repeated themselves for hours. thats what my anxiety is like. completely ridiculous thoughts that I know are not true but I believe them anyway.

I don't know why I'm making this thread It just feels good to type it all out and share what im going though with others... I always keep this bottled up inside.

My advice, look up amphetamine overdose symptoms, see how many of them you have or don't have and take it from there. I saw someone else write that many people call 911 and regret it. I am 50/50 on this. Yes calling 911 sucks, having to take a ambulance ride to the ER sucks, but on the same token, your life is more valuable and precious than being embarrassed of having a bill from your ambulance ride and hospital visit.

If there is one thing I have learned recently, is if you think anything is seriously wrong, doesn't hurt at all to go to the ER. Although some people might scoff, and look down on you, you will not get in any trouble for what you did, and they will get you back where you need to health wise

Take it from me, better to be safe than sorry. I know because I have made up to 4 ER visits from overdoes on meth over the past 4-6 months.

Be safe, your personal health and safety is imperative and doesn't hurt to be absolutely thorough.

 

[becuzaliens]

Thank you and I understand what a 911 call would actually mean. and the only thing that keeps me going is the fact that I don't really feel in danger or in any way unhealthy. I feel a bit drunk, and also a bit up. it feels nice, (only nice because of the alcohol, if it were amphetamine/methylphenidate by itself i'd be a nervous wreck by now...

but how will I know when to call 911 before it's too late? I feel okay.. how will i know when it will all-of-the-sudden, become a health emergency? I have a HBP machine thats been reporting my blood pressure has slightly elevated with a heart rate between 110 and 120, which while IS in fact high, is no reason for a hospital visit. So, how will I know when its time for that 911 call?

 

[Trippingballz]

Thank you and I understand what a 911 call would actually mean. and the only thing that keeps me going is the fact that I don't really feel in danger or in any way unhealthy. I feel a bit drunk, and also a bit up. it feels nice, (only nice because of the alcohol, if it were amphetamine/methylphenidate by itself i'd be a nervous wreck by now...

but how will I know when to call 911 before it's too late? I feel okay.. how will i know when it will all-of-the-sudden, become a health emergency? I have a HBP machine thats been reporting my blood pressure has slightly elevated with a heart rate between 110 and 120, which while IS in fact high, is no reason for a hospital visit. So, how will I know when its time for that 911 call?

I really am not a Dr., and I am not trying to give you medical advice at all because I know I am not in that field at all, but if you want my own personal opinion, from a crystal meth user who has gone to the ER many times in the past few months: Shallow breathing, hyperventilating, severe panic attack, confusion, lack of motor skills and coordination, dialated pupils, sweating and body temperature increases, your heart rate increases and keeps increasing, you feel dizzy, you black out, you feel naeseous or vomit, tingling sensations in various parts of your body.. This is off the top of my head right now. I would urge you to look up online what a amphetamine overdose consists of and when you should go to the ER. I literally googled the same thing last night, and I had nearly almost all the symptoms that I found. Once I saw that I had so many of them, I decided it would be best I check myself in to be safe. I got a IV, a benzo to slow my heart rate down which made all the symptoms I had pretty much go away.

Don't second guess your health and life. If you are not feeling well or think you over did, please just go get checked out. Safe is better than sorry and only a Dr. knows over me what is happening to you and can help you most.

Please see a Dr. ASAP if you have any problems bro. Please!

 

[Zerrr]

juts like to point out..my response was to the op and a standard anxiety attack, it wasn't until after my post that this thread became more serious.

anyway, stay safe..

 

[becuzaliens]

as anxious as i am and everything, im about half way through the bottle and still can confidently say that I'm not in any danger of overdose, but do indeed have an high tolerance to the drug. I don't really know what to do at the moment, I've been binging on the methylphenidate for about 48 hrs and still have over half of my supply left. I despise the experience that i am enduring but every couple of hours I snort another half pill. also mixing this with a large, constant amount of alcohol. I have drank about 750ml of 35% liqour in the past 24 hours ( with yet a 30-pack of beer in my apartment that i intend to continue drinking) along as the 12 or so 20mg tablets of methylphendiate i have so carelessly shoved up my nose

 

[BlueHues]

^I merged this with the other thread you started, because it's essentially the same topic...

-Blue