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Reversing bad physical effects of cannabis

Mehm said:
^^looking at my friends, I would totally disagree with that :D

to each their own though =D

cheers!
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well..maybe long term potheads share a similar interest so the ones who have been doing it a long time without problems tend to flock together...I dunno. Keep in mind though sometimes it takes quite awhile for the negative effects to make themselves clear...for me I was the happiest lil pothead on the planet for awhile but then the bad effects came about pretty quickly for me (about a year). Some people I knew smoked every day for 6+ years then suddenly had horrible problems from it, or had problems from it at the time but didnt realize it.
 
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yes i agree might take half your life but if you smoke a lot or like strong weed i think it will virtually come and effect anybody , that's why pot is really a soft drug imo and let's say alcohol not , slcohol never get less pleasant , with pot the ritual and certain things will always be done to appreciate it , becomes a bit like cigarettes imo , like you keep on doing it but sometimes i really wonder why.
 
K, here's question for you, as you were saying alot of people get negative side effects off smoking weed, have you ever heard of any one getting these side effects off smoking? basicly i smoked daily for about 10 years 'not good i know' iv stopped recently because the effects of smoking REALLY changed recently.

well about 3 months ago, i started getting really negative effects off smoking but did'nt realise it was the weed that was doing it to me, when i clicked on i stopped completely, well basicly, at first, after a while, it used to just put me in to a completely negative mind frame where all i could do is worry about 'evrything' i'd call this paranoia/ anxiaty, and it got to the point just after i'd quit when i'd still have a few tokes on one evry now and again, and i'd then go 'shit i wish'd i hadn't'v done that' because it put me in this completely negative world, where evrything is a little 'colder' not temperature wise, jus 'colder' more like gloomy. so i stopped completely.

then like a week and a bit ago i was at a party took two burns on a spliff and i had a completely 'different' effect off the high, i 'very' different effect, one i'd never experianced before. everything went VERY wierd, like, it's hard to explain, like almost tripping, but not, my perseption changed, evrything looked slightly trippy, like... hmmm.. it's hard to explain, i got very dissconnected, very shut off, like, as in you know how in evryday life you'r 'IN' your invironment your like 'aware' well it completely cut that off from me, i could look around but i felt completely cut off, i 'was' completely cut off, i could talk to people and hold good conversatins with them but it i just didn't feel 'connected' almost like being in a day dream but not at the same time,

and i was getting wierd ideas into my head about the world and stuff that i KNEW wernt real yet couldn't seem to (or found it very hard to) shake off, as in my mind reacted in a way to situations as though i was in a kind of dream where i was consciously projecting all the people around me and i was kind of 'controling' them or i felt connected to all the movement around me at least on a kinda psychic level, i could kind of 'feel' evrything around me, and when people moved i'd be like i didn't do that, why'd she move, or i'd have the feeling i was moving people and cars with my mind, i know it's ABSOLUTELY STUPID, which i knew it, was and all the time i was saying that to myself in my head, but my mind reacted to stuff around me as though ^the above said^ was reall, it was very difficult for me to stop this and get it out of my head which i finaly did thank god, but at one point i was litteraly crying with worry going why is my head doing this!?

and i'd kinda self therapise myself to snap out of it, which was long and hard and tiring and worrying as my mind was going funny, you could say i was losing the plot a little bit, which really isn't good, it really hit me when i looked in the mirror and realised all i had been experiancing was in my head, not in the world around me... anyway... this lasted for about a week, well the perseption change thing wen't, well on and off a few days ago, and my perseption is back to normal again, and i'm feeling alot more connected back with the world recently, yesterday and today especialy, and all the stupid ideas about the world and blahblahblah have gone apart from the odd instantanious blip which i shut off imediatly. 'phew'

but i don't know, i feel, 'different' somehow, in my mind, it's really hard to explain, i just feel as though my mind has changed, very subtly, i can't put a finger on how,. but 'it has', like my awareness, my perseption, i suppose my whole conscious experiance, the underlying minute kinda 'blueprint', kinda mental reactions to stimulus, is 'different' somehow, not anything most people would notice if it was them, but i'm, and i say, VERY aware, i'v always been, and say, i think back to a memory of being in like my mates house or something, and have that memory in my mind, and i look around now, it's 'different', yet i can't put a finger on 'how' almost, a different state of mind, or a slightly different perceptional construct from my sensory imput, i don't know but something along those lines, see nothings, physicly differen't, but 'somethings' just not quite right. it's getting better, i'm consciously 'recovering' myself, it's difficult, but i a'm pulling myself together as it were.... so...

having read this, have you heard of any one else having a similar affect from smoking, and any like advice, opinions, kinda stuff?

by the way, i'v been to my doc and he's asured me there's no reason to think there will be any lasting effects of what i'm going through.

what are your views if any? i'd like some advice. thanx.

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paranormality

I expereinced the same exact thing a while back when i used to smoke regularly...

Like everyone else i loved getting high blah blah blah....Then like u i had a sudden change in the way i got high....

Te paranoia was EXACTLY like yours.....I hated it....I analyzed every lil thing and could barely even socialize w/ others....even people who were smoking w/ me...

I think what it is, is that u suddenly become more sensitive to the MJ high...

My solution was to quit....or like the someone else suggested, have a few beers to take the edge off...

I dont even like smoke by itself anymore....and that was almost 5 or 6 yrs ago when my high just changed like that....

Might i add.....all weed is different, each and every plant....Its a plant and once had life....Therefore its properties are basically just as unique as say a human personality....even if ever so slightly...

Ive only had one strand (over the last 6 yrs) that got me high like the "good ole days" and that was something i grew myself....Couldnt tell u if it was the actual strand or the fact is was fresh or whatever (i think its a combination of both personally)

I dont like weed by itself at all....However i do like to use i conjunction w/ other things....but i dont think ill ever like it by itself again...I just think thats how it will always be:\
 
I think it has to do with a perceived loss of awareness. if you have add and you've been on adderall before you might know what I'm talking about.
 
**phew** 'wipes brow'

so im not the only one that has experianced such 'oddeties' cuz evry one i'v talked to that i know hasn't had the same effect, yea ok, the paranoia thing, alot of them have, but that other REALLY wierd effect after taking two burns after i'd been quit for a week no one i know has experianced anything like that, but mynameisnotdeja seems to know what i mean, and she's/ he's (sorry) still sane right.

Thats cool, i think i'v just blown the whole ordeal out of proportion in my head to be honest, i do think to much about stuff and i'm an intense person as it is, so say, as an example, when i say to my self, hangon there actualy isn't anything wrong, and look around... there isn't really anything wrong, but then, there kind of is something, properly on the hazy line between it actualy being something and it not being more than a worry that there is something, if you get what i mean...

The thing uacvax said about it being something about a percieved loss of awarness is very interesting, a 'percieved' loss of awarness, is obviously more relevant in an imediate sense than a 'loss of awarness'. as the person realises they have diminished awarness, that 'is' me to a tea at the mo to be honest.

And what help's is i can do this kinda 'thing' where i sort of 'spread' my awarness out around me, i know it sounds wierd, but i used to be like that all the time, constantly 'spread' as it were, like as in be aware of evrything around me, now i can only do it by 'consciously' forcing myself to be more aware of my environment, but i am slowly (through doing this) becoming more aware, back to me old self. and i am regaining more grounded'ness, as in, knowing where i am in the world, the room or street or wherever i am, getting my bearings back i suppose.

But 1 thing i'v learned from this experiance is NO MORE WEED FOR ME........... ever..... im cool with that :) for my sanities sake........

peace out.
 
uacvax said:
I think it has to do with a perceived loss of awareness. if you have add and you've been on adderall before you might know what I'm talking about.
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^^i really don't know what your on about when you say 'if you have add and you'v been on adderall before' whats adderall and what do you mean by have add man?^^ :\

but non the less, i think you'v got to the bottom of what i'v noticed is different slightly, after thinking about it for a bit and readig the reply's, i think it 'is' a percieved loss of awarness, as thats what it 'is' to be honest... i'm sketchy cuz i feel really 'quite' cut off a times, which i'm really not used to as i'v always been REALLY 'IN' my surroundings and feeling disconnected is quite unnerving for me, i am returning to normal, as i'v said, but it's like an up and down thing, one day i'll feel really alright, then maybe the next day, for whatever reason i'll have a well sketchy day, like my head'l start going weird again, but it 'is' slowl becomin less and less on a whole and i am returning to who i am, the 'me' before any of this shit started, i'm just worrying that two fuckin burns on a spliff sketched me out COMPLETELY, like 'differently' for nearly two weeks now, you know! what the fuck! now to burns to me is NOTHING, two weeks nearly?! sketched out on a DIFFERENT level?! it does worry me, i'm glad i'm getting better.... but i think think has been an experiance that will kinda... it's given me more insight into shit you don't usually think about, like, it's given me a place where i'v kinda become conscoius of how things 'really' look, you know how evrything looks fucking wierd if you 'look' at it. if you really look at it for what it is, say as though you'v never looked at it before, like when you look at things when your tripping, and i'v become conscoius of the like geometry of stuff, like the distance between the forground and the back ground, and wierd shit like that, not that i havn't benn 'aware of that before, just that it's more kinda 'noticable' now, fuck knows, maybe thats whats changed, almost like 'slightly' trippy..... but not.

i jus don't get it... i'll be alright though, i KNOW i will, i'm SET on getting better. and if i believe i can then i can, cuz if it's all in my mind, i can fix it as i control my mind.... it's nothing like 'serious' i don't think, just unnerving....

any opinions on what i'v just said? any clues as to what it might be?

advice? blahblahblah....

cheers.
 
i'm a little inebriated right now but have you ever taken an upper before like amphetamine or caffeine? They basically "wake" you up. And people with attention deficit disorder are notorious for not paying much attention to their surroundings, but Adderall can change that by playing with peoples' dopamine systems and giving them a sorta awareness and increased interest to their surroundings.
 
amphets/ caffiene, drugs of any kind is what i'm staying away from at the mo, cuz druggs is what screw'd me up in the first place. i know caffiene wakes you up, but i can be as awake as i wan't, it's not an, awake thing, its more a being 'tuned in' thing, it's almost like the world around me is 'distant' like i'm in a day dream but not at the same time, it's like if you walk down the street and your daydreamin, your still half aware of evrything around you, now imagine you come round out of the day dream, back into your suroundings, you can studdy, look at, observe evrything around you, but it's still as 'distant' as it was when you were daydreaming and not paying attention to it. thats what it's like for me, like i'm in some kind of mental 'bubble' i can't seem to break out of. evrythings almost 'fake', not really there.... even when i try forcably 'be' more aware it don't work.

it's not a loss of awarness, more, loosing being tuned in, loosing my 'true place' loosing my barings. it's like i'm in a haze, or a daze but not at the same time. it's wierd.

whats adderall?
 
with all this talk about marijuana not being good for adolescent brains i have a quick question. I smoked weed regurlarly bak when i was in high school starting at 15. is it possible to have caused some sort of long term damage and if so is there any way to heal it?
 
exercise a good diet and nootropics,

yea i suppose, i'm doing the good diet, not so much the exersize thing though, i suppose i should really,

whats nootropics? some kind of supplement?

and do you know of, if some one has done some kind of thing to their mind, see i'm not quite sure what i have done up there but i 'have', do they recover if they stop all drug taking, start a healthy diet, take the right supplements, blahblahblah. which is what i'v done.

basicly, is it common for people in my situation to get better if they consciously try to do so?

and if so how long does it usualy take to get better?

cheers.
 
nootropics are a type of drug which help with neurotransmitters involved with learning and memory. Also, they typically have neuroprotective qualities as well. They're also used for life extension, and alzheimers. They usually have really really good safety profiles.

there's really no way to tell how long it will take for you to get better. As of right now we're not even sure how marijuana damages the brain if it does at all.

But you're definitely going to get better if you start to do all those things. Sounds like you might have an anxiety problem. Exercise will help with that. Might want to check out some supplements to help with that. Research the neurotransmitter GABA.
 
i will do...

yea, i think i'v got a form of general anxiaty dissorder,

and i keep getting harsh dissociative episodes to put and random genralized muscle and tendon twitching... not good i know, it's nothing i can't cope with though, i'm a very strong minded person....

i'll deffinatly look into nootropics... as it is i'm taking vit-b complex sups evry three to four days, magnesium often, ginko biloba and gotu cola evry day, and a herball remedy called quiet time thats got a right mixture of different calming supplements including chamomile, skull cap, ginseng, and about 5 more i can't think of at the mo....

still need to get the good exercise thing going though, the diets 'alright' at the mo, but it could be better, and i'm sleeping enugh, it's just i need to get back into the 'real' me the headstate im comfortable with being like....

i am getting there... slowly non the less... improvemnts are noticable recently,

where can i get hold of nootropics?
 
Gingko Bibola?

increases bloodflow to the brain and is said to increase memory recall and aid concentration.

not an expensive thing either.. give it a go :)
 
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