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Ok, this info is from my psyc. teacher at a college I attend, so its valitidy is up to you. He claimed during a discussion on various drugs that weed has a very unique tendancy to cause a reverse tolerance in habitual users. Basically after long use, not sure of the time frame, maybe years, but anyways it eventually takes less and less to get high, you just can't get as high as a noob would. Something to do i believe w/ the fat solubility and extreme habitual users. I've noticed it at around 1.5 years, now been 3 and i was curious to know if anyone else had the same experiece?
 
I've been smoking for about 6 1/2 years but not a whole lot... like 4 times a week on average. I have noticed that now it takes me a lot less to feel high, I can even get a strong buzz off of ONE good hit usually. I always thought it was due to 'learning' how to get high and developing a familiarity with that particular state of consciousness, which subsequently becomes easier to access with increased use.

Who knows though?
 
i don't know if i agree about the first part of the reverse tolerance, saying that it takes less to get high. i've seen noobs have one toke and they're done for the night, and i don't care how much you put in front of me, i'm not going to cut until it's gone or we're done.
 
I found that after about 1 to 1.5 years of daily smoking (1 - 3.5g) I noticed that unlike alcohol or MDMA, I could quite happily get more and more stoned, without having to massively increase the amount.

But now, after 3 years I don't find myself getting anywhere near as stoned as I used to, made even worse when mates smoke with me and get lean after the first J.

I'm quitting for a month starting today: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=120606&r=6 So I'm hoping my tolerance should settle down a lil, and cut down on usage in a months time.

Kush_T
 
I definitely notice reverse tolerance, and to me it's always felt like more than just a mental trick. With repeated use it feels as though the marijuana high is always lingering just below the surface, and it takes just a little "reminder" dose for it to come roaring back.

It gets to where I have to be very careful to smoke less than I would think, like just 3-4 hits, or risk being too baked to even properly enjoy the evening anymore. Nice, but the whole ritual is over a little too quick sometimes. :\
 
i agree w/ you zacamo. i feel tho that their lungs aren't trained, meaning caked w/ tar and resin, thus they get alot more out of one hit. i can smoke till the cows come home, but after the first 2-4 hits, i'm as high as i'm gonna get, more smoking just makes it last longer. Kush, i'm giving it a break too, my friend quit for a month, said it was like being a noob again, he was blazed w/ one good water bong rip.
good luck with that tho, weeds not physically addicting, but i do like the thought of having an dusk/night bowl to look forward to. probably worth the system cleaning tho.
 
^^ im always have little breaks, 2 weeks or so, and yes i find i get as stoned as i used to, well near!

i also find when i smoke and dont get high, i feel crappy after a joint, instead of mellow, this is the indication to me to cut bk again..

when i start increasing my smoking again i get high really easily, and find if i smoke once every 2 days or so i can keep a luvly high.....
 
I took a 3 week break a few months ago. When I started again, I got really, really high off of a small joint. Currently taking a 3 month break (damn probation), we'll see how high I get when I'm done :)

On a related note, wtf is with people saying they smoke up to an eighth a day? For me, two bowls a day of good, fluffy weed averages out to something like 1.5 grams a week.
 
Your tolerence also decreases when you drink beer over a period of time. WHat happens is your liver is getting more and more damaged so its having more and more trouble to filtter out the alcohol into your system. Although it seems like an average alcoholic has a higher tolerance then you, what is really happeing is he is getting drunker then you. He is just use to gettting drunk so he doesn't feel the effect as quick.
 
WNB said:
I took a 3 week break a few months ago. When I started again, I got really, really high off of a small joint. Currently taking a 3 month break (damn probation), we'll see how high I get when I'm done :)

On a related note, wtf is with people saying they smoke up to an eighth a day? For me, two bowls a day of good, fluffy weed averages out to something like 1.5 grams a week.
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Just the same as any drug I guess, I know people who can down 10 pints of beer and still hold a conversation about politics, while after 5 I'd be useless.

I used to make 3.5g last a week, sometimes two. Nowadays I really have to monitor my usage; if I smoked what I wanted it'd be nearer the 4/5g per day. Plus, spliffs generally use more weed than ripping a bong, I could get 3 or 4 bongs from an average spliff.

This is one the main reasons for me taking a month off.
 
It's an interetsing topic. I've heard people tlak about reverse tolerance with cannabis, but I only experienced this in one period of my life. It was when I was going through an anxiety/panic stage. I did feel higher off less weed but I was not always comfortable with it. And some times it turned into full blown anxiety attacks where I could literally feel my heart pounding out of my chest and even feel like it was travelling upto my neck and shit. Thought I was going to die etc... SO maybe it has to do with anxiety in over use?

I have to say now though, I ened a fair bit, I need to keep smoking all day to feel the weed effects :/
 
the way my psyc teacher explained it was on a specific time table, as accurate as those can be mind you given everyones unique brain schematics. but as i recall, or as good as a head like myself can recall, the graph didn't continue to indicate a reversing, it leveled off at a point , and never started a reversing pattern again. i would assume it was illustrating a habitual user. anywho it was deffinately cool, being that i'm not aware of other drugs that do anything like that.
as far as anxiety goes i used to get paranoid, still do, about getting caught by the cops and my heart rate as you mentioned. i think i kept getting myself in mind traps. weed, and anything you smoke tightens your blood vessels, thus your heart beats harder. and if you paranoid like me you feel this and freak and make your heart beat even harder and freak more...from what you said you get the picture.
 
In my drug class at UCF in orlando I think we covered that. I dont really know though since I havent been to class in weeks but I think I saw it mentioned somewhere in the notes.
 
One brainy girl I know has a theory that THC stays in you direct system for something like 24 hours, and if you smoke at a time after the buzz has conciously worn off and the time that it isn't directly in your system (I know it stores in your fat for a few weeks after this) you just build on the high and rejuvinate some of the other high. I think that's what she meant at least. I used to disagree but I see it as more logical than a reverse tolerance (since I don't know anything to back either of them up).
 
Was your psych lecturer talking about cannabis specifically? Becuase the phenomena of Behavioral Sensitization, which amounts of a reverse tolerance to the behavioral effects of stimulants is well noted...

I had a look, and there is really no research of reverse tolerance to THC... well no REAL research, and none at all for the last 20 years.
 
the more i've read on it, the more i believe it occurs.
i personally experienced it, but from what i can tell, some people don't have this happen, and it doesn't continue.

say you smoke for 6-12 months(daily). somewhere in there i believe is where it is mostl likely to occur.
mines gone away to an extent, and like i said previously, my highs are not as intense and don't last nearly as long.

it doensn't have anyting to do with taking a break. i smoke daily, no breaks. this reverse tolerance occured, atleast in my case.

i'd really like to know the cause tho, if indeed it is something w/ thc and fat, or maybe an altering of brain patterns due to constant outside influences (cannabinoids), or maybe someting completely different.

p.s.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/Library/studies/nc/ncchap2.htm
(part of nixons reports on mj back in his day) search for reverse tolerance. still no explanation
 
Oh my god you have what I have! I've been smoking every single day since November and now I get high for only 25-45 minutes and it's not as good but it only takes me like 2 or 3 hits. If that's what you meant, that's crazy. I guess I consider it a crappy reverse tolerance, because no matter how much I smoke I come down within 90 minutes always.
 
i believe more of the personal stats, than actual research. The user of a drug is most likely to know more about the state of mind than someone doing research.
But i agree in some cases reverse tolerance ocurs
 
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