restless leg syndrome due to heroin wds

[eireann]

swimming.d some people do get it as bad as we wud durin wds but ur rite d person whos having a coffee and barely noticing it def isnt haha

 

[mr. mudd]

only thing that worked for me was hot baths and time. I add a cup or two of epsom salts to the bath--seems to help, but it might just be psychological.

 

[eireann]

only thing that worked for me was hot baths and time. I add a cup or two of epsom salts to the bath--seems to help, but it might just be psychological.

mr mudd i heared people saying that but i only had showers available so i went dirty for a week the only thing i could bring myself to do was have a shave,u not what i mean if u had rls threw wds,fuck me heroin wds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JasNod]

swimming.d some people do get it as bad as we wud durin wds but ur rite d person whos having a coffee and barely noticing it def isnt haha

I don't think that's the same. It sounds like you are talking about caffeine jitters, like when you are just subconsciously jiggling your leg or something. RLS caused by opioid withdrawals is excruciating. As people said above, it can make you want to stab or brak your legs from the agony, and it can happen all over your body. It basically feels like your bones and muscles are very sore, you feel very anxious, and your muscles get incredibly painful if you don't move them or jerk them, or sometimes you just jerk them uncontrollably. It's hard to fully explain how horrible it is, but trust me, it's miserable. I have had symptoms of RLS at night that were not caused by opioid withdrawals and just consisted of my legs moving in my sleep and waking me briefly (or my partner would tell me my leg or arm had been moving) and it was not painful or anywhere close to the feeling of the restless legs/arms/body that comes with opioid WDs (for me). So I'm not sure whether people with non-opioid caused RLS are really going through the same thing or not. It probably varies. Plus, when you're in WD you have all the other myriad torturous symptoms of WD as well.

I can vouch, rls not caused by opiate withdrawal can be pretty horrible. Granted, withdrawal makes my rls pure fucking torture. I try to always have a backup stash just for chasing it away before I sleep, but I'm sure you know how that goes haha. I remember before I even took opiates if I took diphenhydramine to sleep it would intensify my rls to unbearable levels, it's the same sensation, maybe less intense though it's hard to remember. Its so relaxing after a day of rls to base it off and take some diphenhydramine though, just lay there and relax.

 

[eireann]

question to any one who was addicted to gear do u find after u drink u get minor rls?? i only drink bout 4 times a yr and i never had this before gear anyone else get this???

 

[BK38]

I attack my RLS (resulting from Opiate WDs) with Hot baths (With essence of Lavender and Epsom Salts poured in), Tramadol Hcl and some Cannabis. I find that the Tramadol Hcl is extremely effective at actually stopping RLS, meanwhile, the Cannabis and Lavender/Epsom Salt Baths are really just for your physical comfort.

I know how much RLS blows and I hope you can get rid of them!

 

[eireann]

I attack my RLS (resulting from Opiate WDs) with Hot baths (With essence of Lavender and Epsom Salts poured in), Tramadol Hcl and some Cannabis. I find that the Tramadol Hcl is extremely effective at actually stopping RLS, meanwhile, the Cannabis and Lavender/Epsom Salt Baths are really just for your physical comfort.

I know how much RLS blows and I hope you can get rid of them!

cannabis is a dodgie one dude it works for some and makes it worse for others...when u say tramadol do u mean the over the counter kind?? its amazing what can work for rls i found ponston great......in the past i always assumed if the drug doesnt give a buzz it wont help u,i used to take xanax for rls during wds which i use to find brill cept during my last detox they did nothing..i had xanax d-10s zimmovane and ponston in the end i only took the zimmos and ponston which did the trick perfectly

 

[icecreamtrepan]

Yes, RLS and the general "I want to squirm myself out of my own body" feeling of opiate w/d has definitely masked other symptoms of w/d due to how intensely shitty the feeling was. Especially shitty is how the RLS contributes to insomnia, and I would end up not sleeping for 3 or 4 nights straight, all the while wanting to tear my legs off. Honestly, I found a lot of things I would try to do in w/d (if I could do them at all, that is) was an attempt to relieve RLS. Weed would help depending on the type of weed, a good indica is good, but I would try massaging my legs, exercised/stretched, took contrast showers (really hot water -> really cold) and they all tended to be effective on the short-term. For some reason, likely the endorphin and dopamine rush, my RLS were really easy to ignore and almost non-existent if I jerk off, especially following orgasm. Although I'd say that provided the most enjoyable relief, haha, no form of relief lasted very long. And to top it off, the RLS for me has tended to last a bit longer than the acute w/ds (although they tend to get better day by day after the 1st week). However, as they say, it's not called "kicking" for nothing, and it's part of the torture you have to do endure if you are addicted to opiates.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

I find that the Tramadol Hcl is extremely effective at actually stopping RLS

That's because Tramadol is an opioid. It's just temporarily alleviating the opioid withdrawal symptoms. That would be like saying heroin is helpful for RLS caused by opioid withdrawal. The RLS is just going to come back as soon as you stop taking the Tramadol.

 

[eireann]

Yes, RLS and the general "I want to squirm myself out of my own body" feeling of opiate w/d has definitely masked other symptoms of w/d due to how intensely shitty the feeling was. Especially shitty is how the RLS contributes to insomnia, and I would end up not sleeping for 3 or 4 nights straight, all the while wanting to tear my legs off. Honestly, I found a lot of things I would try to do in w/d (if I could do them at all, that is) was an attempt to relieve RLS. Weed would help depending on the type of weed, a good indica is good, but I would try massaging my legs, exercised/stretched, took contrast showers (really hot water -> really cold) and they all tended to be effective on the short-term. For some reason, likely the endorphin and dopamine rush, my RLS were really easy to ignore and almost non-existent if I jerk off, especially following orgasm. Although I'd say that provided the most enjoyable relief, haha, no form of relief lasted very long. And to top it off, the RLS for me has tended to last a bit longer than the acute w/ds (although they tend to get better day by day after the 1st week). However, as they say, it's not called "kicking" for nothing, and it's part of the torture you have to do endure if you are addicted to opiates.

dude i was one of those where if i rolled over at nite durin wds id cum myself...apparently a pain in ur spine causes some ppl to cum demselves during wds..so wankn never helped me altho i hear ppl like urself who says it works for dem...wish it did work for me it wuda been an amazing cure...lol

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Spontaneous orgasm is a common feature of opiate withdrawal, but it has nothing to do with a pain in your spine. It is likely because you become incredibly sensitive, your hormones and blood pressure are out of whack, and perhaps even your body is trying to produce some endorphins because your brain is lacking. Its like how we get the opposite effects of the opiate - opiates make it more difficult to orgasm so we experience the opposite during withdrawals.

However, orgasm can be helpful for many people because it produces natural opiates in the brain, giving a few minutes of relief during WDs.

 

[eireann]

Spontaneous orgasm is a common feature of opiate withdrawal, but it has nothing to do with a pain in your spine. It is likely because you become incredibly sensitive, your hormones and blood pressure are out of whack, and perhaps even your body is trying to produce some endorphins because your brain is lacking. Its like how we get the opposite effects of the opiate - opiates make it more difficult to orgasm so we experience the opposite during withdrawals.

However, orgasm can be helpful for many people because it produces natural opiates in the brain, giving a few minutes of relief during WDs.

they dont no y u cum durin wds i read on the net dat spine pain is most likely cause i dunno tho...would u believe i had this green gel like deepheat its made in rathangan county kildare its called horse balm i used deep heat and it did nothing the horse balm wud give u around 10min of relief it was geat but its expensive and u have to use alot

 

[oddball]

Shit for me it seems in general I'm just restless during withdrawal and the withdrawal is about to start if I don't find or get the time to go get some soon. I can't eat, sleep, get comfortable and the list just goes on and on. Hate the withdrawals but love the drug! Just wish I had an easier way to get my hands on it.

 

[eireann]

Shit for me it seems in general I'm just restless during withdrawal and the withdrawal is about to start if I don't find or get the time to go get some soon. I can't eat, sleep, get comfortable and the list just goes on and on. Hate the withdrawals but love the drug! Just wish I had an easier way to get my hands on it.

oddball when i was strung i use to feel rls coming on around 20hrs after my last smoke.....im glad i dont have to worry bout that now tho the wds still have me mentally scared...6months later and im still not rite some fucking drug....but still i dont hate the drug itself altho i fear it now...i feel even if i relapse once then the last 6months of shit have all been for nothing....

 

[eireann]

just reading some ones post about how there emotions are amazingly beautiful after coming off h and im just thinking the lucky fecker all i did was pull anxiety freakers the first couple of month,i genuinely coundnt read the news paper for 3months and il never forget xmas day i broke down because 30 odd people were blown up in a nigerian church,that was bad xmas news tho in america a guy dressed as santa killed a family and in ireland a family were wipe out by a gas leak in there home...haha il never forget breaking down and ruining xmas for my fam... yup il say it again gear is messed up

horse balm horse balm horse balm any one with rls should try its 30e a tub but amazing i forgot bout it till today haha but it was brill

 

[Swimmingdancer]

they dont no y u cum durin wds i read on the net dat spine pain is most likely cause i dunno tho...

I really don't think that is true. I don't get "spine pain" in conjunction with spontaneous orgasm. I stick to my previous explanation

just reading some ones post about how there emotions are amazingly beautiful after coming off h and im just thinking the lucky fecker all i did was pull anxiety freakers the first couple of month,i genuinely coundnt read the news paper for 3months and il never forget xmas day i broke down because 30 odd people were blown up in a nigerian church,that was bad xmas news tho in america a guy dressed as santa killed a family and in ireland a family were wipe out by a gas leak in there home...haha il never forget breaking down and ruining xmas for my fam... yup il say it again gear is messed up

horse balm horse balm horse balm any one with rls should try its 30e a tub but amazing i forgot bout it till today haha but it was brill

Horse balm is a plant in the mint family, are you talking about using a horse balm ointment? I've also found it helpful for headaches. Apparently you can drink horse balm tea as well.

I know what you mean about the intense emotions, but I think you can find beauty even in emotions like sadness. I will cry over the tiniest thing when I am in WDs but if you look at it the right way it can sometimes be beautiful, if that makes sense. I will also feel other emotions more intensely too. But I do agree with you that especially in acute WDs most of the heightened emotions tend to be ones that one would normally find unpleasant, like anxiety, crushing depression, self-hatred, etc. But in a weird way it can feel kind of good to, say, watch an emotional movie, or look at the beauty of nature, and be overwhelmed by it all.

 

[eireann]

yes swimmming its a green gel the size of a tub of hair gel

when i can off the gear last time during the massive drought it was an amazing experience i was high off my head on xanax tho....lol

have u detoxed off gear?if so how did u do it? the one thing im happy with is the fact i didnt use fi i did 4 days of cold turkey but then i
cracked and went to the doc and got d-10s ponston and zimmovane i mostly used the zimmos which i found great in the past i wudnt bother
with sleepers unless thy were dalmane im sitting here writing this with four cans of dutch gold haha just needed something today

 

[eireann]

also like u can see in my post above iv forgotten how to spell and if some one asks me a question il be thinking for 30sec before my brain kicks in to answer i abused myself with a qtr or [bottle] a week for the last 5 years and it has my brain destroyed....i dont no how ppl cope after coming off it after 15 years,that would of been too much for me i cant get over throwing away 5 years of my life

 

[Bill]

I can't stress enough how much Lyrica helps RLS

 

[eireann]

any one ever experience rls after 3 or 4 cans of alcohol,this has happened to me twice since i have been clean from heroin,it drives me crazy i cant even enjoy a drink.
is this physical or mental any one have any ideas?