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Misc Resorting to Darvocet

percozakk

percozakk

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Okay, so i got out of treatment about a month and a half ago. i was hooked on banging roxys. Im really trying to stay away from all that shit but i really want to get high.
I have access to just a few darvocet right now.
I have heard of people snorting them but thats just stupid.
What i wanted to know is if i could do i CWE on two or so of them then get the water and do a drip into my nose. I know they are water soluble.
Ive done this effectively with other drugs so i just needed input on this.
 
Your wasting your time.
Darvocet is toxic garbage.
Even with 0 tolerance Darvocet is still only fit for the garbage can.
Don't waste your time & effort on something that will just frustrate you.
You would have to take amounts that are toxic to get any effect & the toxicity would outweigh the effects.
Basically Darvocet is essentially useless.
Save yourself the hassle & frustration & don't even bother fucking with them.
 
If you are having cravings you need to deal with them, try talking to people in your support network, or a professional. ORT is a good option for people who are more likely to relapse/have consistent cravings.

As IndustrialStrength said, it's better to avoid something that will only frustrate you. And if it does get you high? Then you will probably relentlessly use it until it's gone and then you're in a similar situation (albeit not as bad as IV oxycodone).
 
darvos will make u get oxys.

stay out of OD if u wanna get clean too it has a subconscious effect and can trigger.
 
^ Could not have said the two above posts better. Please listen to these guys, they obviously very well know what they are talking about.
 
If you're going to take Darvocets, I'd highly recommend just swallowing the pills. They won't get you very high no matter what you do with them, so trying to make it so you can consume them another way just won't be worth the hassle at all.
 
IndustrialStrength said:
Your wasting your time.
Darvocet is toxic garbage.
Even with 0 tolerance Darvocet is still only fit for the garbage can.
Don't waste your time & effort on something that will just frustrate you.
You would have to take amounts that are toxic to get any effect & the toxicity would outweigh the effects.
Basically Darvocet is essentially useless.
Save yourself the hassle & frustration & don't even bother fucking with them.
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I obviously agree that Darvocet's are really toxic; anybody who disagrees with that would just be flat out wrong. However, the chance that taking them a few times or whatever would do any lasting damage to you is slim to none.

Also, I have to disagree somewhat with the whole "Darvocets are essentially useless" comment. I know many people find that no matter how much they take they can't get any worthwhile buzz from them at all, but that's not the case with everybody. For me, taking 300mg of Darvocet gives me about the same sort of buzz that 10mg of Percocet would... or at the very least 10mg of Vicoden. It just differs from person to person.
 
^^ Interesting. I'd not known anyone to get any good effects from them.
I guess to each there own as everyone is different.
I was just stating that with the low effect to toxicity ratio they don't seem worth it.
I apologize if I came off a bit strong but considering the op's tolerance I figured I'd make it clear he'd be wasting his time.
I know I'd be pissed if I went through all the effort of trying to get something out of them & got nothing.
Rather not waste the time & frustration.
Regardless I'm glad to hear they work for you.
At least someone gets something out of them. :)
 
Darvocet does not help control pain, not even in the least, for me.

no value IMO.

and i only take 10 to 15mg of oxycodone to control pain

-Pain :|
 
Propoxyphene is a step up from ibuprofen, but a step down down from codeine. It's not really worth it because of it's weakness. I agree with TheFDA though; the drug certainly effects people differently and what doesn't work for one person might work exceptionally well for another, so it might just be worth a shot to see how the drug could effect you individually. On the other hand, since you're already tolerant to opiates, it's not too likely that you'll get a worthwhile buzz out of it.

I would just save it for a day when you have a nasty headache and need some relief, after all it's exceedingly better at controlling pain than advil or acetaminophen would be. However, if you could get your hands on Dextropropoxyphene, you might be in business. I'm not sure what trade name it's under, but I do know it's more potent and might up their at level of codeine.
 
I disagree with the consensus on this site. Propoxyphene has value- it is a niche drug, but an important one. It is especially popular in older patients who complain of generalized pain. It is an excellent palliative drug, as it is weak enough not to cause too many side effects when taken as directed, and is effective enough a palliative that it can treat minor pain very well.

It is also a valuable drug in the treatment of opioid dependancy and addiction in certain circumstances.

50+ years ago they started producing Propoxyphene Napsylate, which is not water soluble. This is the active ingredient in Darvon-N and Darvocet. You cannot do a CWE on Darvocet- the active ingredient is not soluble enough in water to work like it would with Codeine Hcl etc.

Also, even if it were water soluble, it would be pointless. You would reach the maximum safe daily dosage of Propoxyphene before you would reach the maximm daily dosage of APAP/Acetaminophen/Tylenol.

The highest 'safe' dosage of Propoxyphene Napsylate recommended by the health care industry's textx is 600mg in a 24 hour period. For APAP/Acetaminophen/Tylenol it is 4000mg.

The largest Darvocet tablets contain 100mg Propoxyphene Napsylate, 650mg APAP. This comes out to 6 tablets a day- 600mg Propoxyphene Napsylate, 3900mg APAP/Acetaminophen/Tylenol.

So theres no point to do a CWE on them even if it were possible. Even though it isn't a good idea to consume these amounts of APAP, with Codeine and Hydrocodone preparations, you need to do a CWE or risk taking double or more the maximum recommended daily dosage of APAP depending on your tolerance.

Note- there is a world of difference in dosage between Propoxyphene Napsylate and Propoxyphene Hydrochloride. The latter is not prescribed as widely as the former. It takes less Propoxyphene Hydrochloride to equal the same effect of more Propoxyphene Napsylate.

Because of different molecular mass, a dose of 100 mg of propoxyphene napsylate is required to supply an amount of propoxyphene equivalent to that present in 65 mg propoxyphene hydrochloride.
 
IndustrialStrength said:
^^ Interesting. I'd not known anyone to get any good effects from them.
I guess to each there own as everyone is different.
I was just stating that with the low effect to toxicity ratio they don't seem worth it.
I apologize if I came off a bit strong but considering the op's tolerance I figured I'd make it clear he'd be wasting his time.
I know I'd be pissed if I went through all the effort of trying to get something out of them & got nothing.
Rather not waste the time & frustration.
Regardless I'm glad to hear they work for you.
At least someone gets something out of them. :)
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Me, too. Codeine has become essentially nothing to me and supposedly the propoxyphene or darvocet whatever was supposed to be about as strong as codeine. But when I pop a few darvocet I still get a nice buzz and I was heavy on heroin for a period of 3 months and then suboxone for another 4 months and that's just a few months ago. Now I'm trying to get off the heroin/suboxone by taking stuff like tramadol and darvocets because I feel them unlike codeine...and I want to stick with the weaker feel-goods so I don't have to go through that wild non-heroin thing after going on a wild heroind thing.
 
imo any drug that carries a high amount of apap is dangerous. What makes darvocet doubly dangerous is the fact that in most people it isn't effective as a pain reliever, so some may take a few more, not putting thought into the apap. And many doctors are too lax in their warnings about apap to begin with.
 
United States:
A U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) panel recently voted to recommend that dextropropoxyphene be removed from the market, based on its weak pain killing abilities, addictiveness, association with drug deaths and possible heart problems, including arrhythmia. A subsequent re-evaluation resulted in a July 2009 recommendation to strengthen the boxed warning for propoxyphene to reflect the risk of overdose. Dextropropoxyphene currently carries a black box warning in the U.S.

Use by right to die societies:
High toxicity and relatively easy availability made propoxyphene drug of choice for right to die societies. Propoxyphene is listed in Dr. Philip Nitschke's "Peaceful Pill Handbook"and Dr Pieter Admiraal's "Guide to a Human Self-Chosen Death"."With the withdrawal of the barbiturate sleeping tablets from the medical prescribing list, propoxyphene has become the most common doctor-prescribed medication used by seriously ill people to end their lives."The slang name for the combination of propoxyphene and other drugs used for suicide is "Darvon cocktail".

.....anyone else need more reasons not to use this SHIT..!!
 
Darvocet is total shit, i wouldn't even give them to my dog if it was yelping in pain.

you've been clean for over a month and a half, think about that, man the fuck up and stay clean for as long as you can, don't fuck it up over some nasty ass Darvocet, that's just stupid man.
 
God its great to see you around, Tchort. Spot on in regards to everything Sir Chort said.

C.H also raised good points... Taking the propox will most likely not satisfy what you're after, OP, so it'll just tease you by tickling those mu receptors and make your craving for strong opioids that much stronger.

I'd advise you to either fully embrace sobriety and do what you need to or drop the pretenses. If you try to straddle the fence, you'll most likely fall on your head on the wrong side.
 
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