• Philosophy and Spirituality
    Welcome Guest
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
    Threads of Note Socialize
  • P&S Moderators: JackARoe

Religious beliefs / practises? What do you follow?

rickolasnice

rickolasnice

Bluelighter
Joined
Apr 19, 2007
Messages
6,807
Don't think this has been done before? (Please delete if I'm wrong)

Poll please sirs!

Christianity
Islam
Hinduism
Sikhism
Judaism
Taoist
Paganism
Scientology
Athiest
Agnostic

Please comment what sect you follow ie; Roman catholic, protestant, Shia, Shaivism, Orthodox etc etc..
 
option for 'other'?

I'm a 'Muslim' in that I submit to God-the Law or else I'll die/won't exist, but I don't join with other self identified Muslims, and won't with the current ones in their interpretations, and I also reserve the right to criticize Muhammad, and can't say I follow him precisely (though, I 'follow' many, as they come before me). I share the word Islam, and Muslim, and a desire for peace, and whatnot of good. By my very nature, like the elements and nature, I adhere to 'Islam'. 'Apostasy' is impossible, and certainly means 'death' (because how can you not adhere to the universe you are in and of?). But by my broad and open interpretation of the direct word, a rock is adhering to Islam. And so is a mass-rapist/murderer.

I don't really let any man tell me what to do, without asking myself, and testing. I test myself and my own thoughts, so why not theirs?

I enjoy elements/ideas of Taoism, and I try to be awake- to have an 'awakened heart'.

I accept that 'spirits' exist. Maybe I'm a little Pagan. I accept that spirits, and flows, and laws of things might be called Gods or of Gods, but I also believe in one God, with no other Gods bigger or smaller, ultimately, than that God can be.

I believe in angels.

I wouldn't exist without Jesus Christ.
 
Last edited:
Not sure where I fall. Brought up in no religion, in the 21st century UK with a love for science, for which I have my deepest respects to my parents for allowing me to find my own thoughts.

I don't believe in a personal god or deity, but I do believe there is order and purpose to all this.. more akin to a hall of mirrors than anything else, reflections of one source, and that source is what we all stem from, what gives us our ability to be aware.
 
I think the closest thing is 'non-dualism'. That there is only one of us here ('god'/awareness/essence), that it's all just reflections of his/her/it's glory, for no reason.. a kind of infinite mathematical formula expressing itself as it folds in upon itself under its own efforts. It's all empty. Something like that ^_^
 
im interested by ideas in hinduism, buddhism and taoism, but ultimately i tend to agree with the advaita vedanta, on non-duality

i think meditating every day or doing yoga helps to make you 'accident prone' in a sense to seeing the true nature of reality, that everything is one and connected

i think the jhanas in theravada buddhism show the steps to the path of realisation, which all religions are ultimately supposed to be a path to that point, but have changed over time to lose most of their meaning, at least on a mainstream level
 
Add to the poll : Christianity, Maronite church. Although i may not go every sunday to the church but I have a great believe in good and the Trinity. If I wasn't Christian I would either be Jewish or Muslim. Any religion that encourage peace between others is fine with me.
 
I don't believe in anything, all religions suck rod.

But through psychedelic experiences I've learnt I have some affinity for Hinduism and Buddhism. But like I said, I don't believe in anything.
 
I like Paganism because it follows genuine earthly cycles and their energies, along with supporting human relationships with nature, both of which someone as sensitive as me can really pick up on. I have a lot of respect for Buddhism, mostly because it contains the formula for creating really nice and kindhearted people, kind of like how Christians would be if they actually listened to Jesus instead of the other crap. Daoism is great because it taught me how to yield and go the path of least resistance, which is essential if you're on a spiritual path of extensive release work and acceptance. I learned oneness though Hinudism, of all things. It just clicked one day.

The Abrahamic faiths... I've gleaned little from. The words of Jesus himself are the most relateable to the other religions I've worked with, but it's almost pointless to try and dig deeper with that.

I don't know... at this point, any time I try to state a belief, there is a little voice in me saying, "Well actually..." I'm too good at seeing the different sides of things, which I guess made it easier in the long run to get a better understanding of emptiness. Eventually the horde of philosophy and intellectual discourse just caves in on itself and precipitates out a higher wisdom that is difficult to describe. In a nut shell, I have been seeking my whole life, and now I've come to understand that non-seeking is far more conducive to truth. I assume that's what the major players in different religions, like the prophets, saints, and masters realized. Then someone tried to write it down which of course never works. Eventually you have to take all that writing and go beyond it to realize what they were actually trying to convey.

I'm in love with a mystery that I don't understand.
 
Ive always been very much involved in the respect of individualism within minority sects of Paganism. Hard to explain, some might think I'm talking crazy Varg vikernes style nazi ancient Norwegian but that's not what I'm trying to get across. Essentially, I believe that the Earth and the Individual have a complex relationship, which in itself has to be healthy in order for you and like-minded individuals to become more productive together. I don't endorse these thoughts or the scripts and specifics of what I read and believe in because I dont believe in preaching. I also have a hard time to be honest accepting hardcore fundamentalists and those that take more than they give monetarily as a religion but that's another topic.

I also believe the arts, our interaction with organic chemistry and smaller forms of government are better suited to the people than borders and massive economic powerhouses existing while the complete opposite exists with its people locked into that land based on the soil they were on when born. I have a hard time accepting that someone can "own land".. it's nothing new or unique but it's not something I can say is locked into paganism. It's more.... individualist in nature but not selfishly intended.
 
I believe Christ Jesus is God in the flesh, nailed sin and death to the cross, though the power of death was no match for his, thus he raised to back to life, and spirit reigns forever.

A wonder for mankind.

It isn't my 'religion'. It's a loving relationship with my Creator, who gives me encouragement and strength to defeat the chains of addiction and sin; to have meaningful life, and have it more abundantly.

Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins. 1 Peter 4:8

Such love has no fear, because perfect love drives out fear. 1 John 4:18
 
Greetings.

I was a skeptic till the age of 39. I then had an apotheosis and laterbranded myself an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian. Gnostic Christianbecause I exemplify this quote from William Blake and that makes me as hated byChristians today as the ancient Gnostics that Constantine had the Christianskill when he bought the Catholic Church.

“Both read the Bible day andnight, But thou read'st black where I read white.”

This refers to how Gnostics tend to reverse, for moral reasons, whatChristians see in the Bible. We tend to recognize the evil ways of the O. T.God where literal Christians will see God’s killing as good.Christians are sheep where Gnostic Christians are goats.

This is perhaps why we see the use of a Jesus scapegoat as immoral,while theists like to make Jesus their beast of burden. An immoral position.

During my apotheosis, something that only lasted 5 or 6 seconds, theonly things of note to happen was that my paradigm of reality was confirmed andI was chastised to think more demographically. What I found was what I call acosmic consciousness. Not a new term but one that is a close but not exact fit.

I recognize that I have no proof. That is always the way withapotheosis.
This is also why I prefer to stick to issues of morality because no onehas yet been able to prove that God is real and I have no more proof than theyfor the cosmic consciousness or what I call; the Godhead.

The cosmic consciousness is not a miracle working God. It does notinterfere with us save when one of us finds it. Not a common thing from what Ican see. It is a part of nature and our next evolutionary step.

I tend to have more in common with atheists who ignore what they see asmy delusion because our morals are basically identical. Theist tend not to likeme much as I have no respect for literalists and fundamentals and think thatmost Christians have exaggerated tribal mentalities and poor morals as theyhave developed a double standard to be able to stomach their God.

I am rather between a rock and a hard place but this I cannot help.

I am happy to be questioned on what I believe but whether or not Godexists is basically irrelevant to this world for all that he does not do, and Iprefer to thrash out moral issues that can actually find an end point. Thesearch for God is never ending when you are of the Gnostic persuasion. Myapotheosis basically says that I am to ignore whatever God I found, God as aset of rules that is, not idol worship it but instead, raise my bar ofexcellence and seek further.

My apotheosis also showed me that God has no need for love, adoration orobedience. He has no needs. Man has dominion here on earth and is to be and isthe supreme being.

Since then, I have tried to collect information that would help any thatbelieve that apotheosis is possible, generally not Christians, --- as they donot believe in the mythical esoteric Jesus that I believe in and churches donot dare teach it.

This first clip gives the theological and philosophical interpretationof what Jesus taught and the second clip show what I think is a closerepresentation of the method that helped me push my apotheosis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

Basically, the usual Christian Jesus is their hero and savior while myversion demand that man himself steps up to the plate and save himself.

Which version do you think is more moral and deserving of praise andwhy?

Regards
DL

http://www.thesongofgod.com/tgc/basic_beliefs.html
 
I'm atheist agnostic : I don't believe in any deity, but I'm convinced it's currently impossible for humanity to determine if deities exist.

I may join the Church of Satan if I agree with all of its beliefs. From what I've read so far, I agree with its beliefs. Is it an atheistic organization? Does it really believe in Satan as a deity or is Satan just a symbol?

Edit : It performs satanic baptisms, and I disagree with baptisms in general, so I'll not join. It's morally wrong to 'give' any belief to a child without letting him/her decide for him/herself.
 
Last edited:
flyhighk said:
I'm atheist agnostic : I don't believe in any deity, but I'm convinced it's currently impossible for humanity to determine if deities exist.

I may join the Church of Satan if I agree with all of its beliefs. From what I've read so far, I agree with its beliefs. Is it an atheistic organization? Does it really believe in Satan as a deity or is Satan just a symbol?

Edit : It performs satanic baptisms, and I disagree with baptisms in general, so I'll not join. It's morally wrong to 'give' any belief to a child without letting him/her decide for him/herself.
Click to expand...

I think all Gnostic Christians would agree with your last.

We see indoctrination into fantasy sold as reality as immoral and child abuse.

If you have a spiritual itch to scratch I suggest you investigate Gnostic Christianity.

I do not like Christianity because they discriminate against women and gays and do not give them equality. Gnostic Christianity goes the other way and we put women and children ahead of men. We believe that to be our duty to family. Somewhat like with the law of the sea.

Regards
DL
 
Actually, I was a christian until like 8 or 9 months ago. I was becoming more and more skeptical of the presence of god and the old and new testament were becoming less credible to me. So one day I realised I shouldn't even call myself a christian anymore. No one pressured me into becoming an atheist.
 
flyhighk said:
Actually, I was a christian until like 8 or 9 months ago. I was becoming more and more skeptical of the presence of god and the old and new testament were becoming less credible to me. So one day I realised I shouldn't even call myself a christian anymore. No one pressured me into becoming an atheist.
Click to expand...

I went the other way. I was an atheist till 39.

Lend me your ear for my anecdotal story.
I was a skeptic till the age of 39. I then had an apotheosis and laterbranded myself an esoteric ecumenist and Gnostic Christian. Gnostic Christianbecause I exemplify this quote from William Blake and that makes me as hated byChristians today as the ancient Gnostics that Constantine had the Christianskill when he bought the Catholic Church.

“Both read the Bible day andnight, But thou read'st black where I read white.”

This refers to how Gnostics tend to reverse, for moral reasons, whatChristians see in the Bible. We tend to recognize the evil ways of the O. T.God where literal Christians will see God’s killing as good.Christians are sheep where Gnostic Christians are goats.

This is perhaps why we see the use of a Jesus scapegoat as immoral,while theists like to make Jesus their beast of burden. An immoral position.

During my apotheosis, something that only lasted 5 or 6 seconds, theonly things of note to happen was that my paradigm of reality was confirmed andI was chastised to think more demographically. What I found was what I call acosmic consciousness. Not a new term but one that is a close but not exact fit.

I recognize that I have no proof. That is always the way withapotheosis.
This is also why I prefer to stick to issues of morality because no onehas yet been able to prove that God is real and I have no more proof than theyfor the cosmic consciousness or what I call; the Godhead.

The cosmic consciousness is not a miracle working God. It does notinterfere with us save when one of us finds it. Not a common thing from what Ican see. It is a part of nature and our next evolutionary step.

I tend to have more in common with atheists who ignore what they see asmy delusion because our morals are basically identical. Theist tend not to likeme much as I have no respect for literalists and fundamentals and think thatmost Christians have exaggerated tribal mentalities and poor morals as theyhave developed a double standard to be able to stomach their God.

I am rather between a rock and a hard place but this I cannot help.

I am happy to be questioned on what I believe but whether or not Godexists is basically irrelevant to this world for all that he does not do, and Iprefer to thrash out moral issues that can actually find an end point. Thesearch for God is never ending when you are of the Gnostic persuasion. Myapotheosis basically says that I am to ignore whatever God I found, God as aset of rules that is, not idol worship it but instead, raise my bar ofexcellence and seek further.

My apotheosis also showed me that God has no need for love, adoration orobedience. He has no needs. Man has dominion here on earth and is to be and isthe supreme being.

Since then, I have tried to collect information that would help any thatbelieve that apotheosis is possible, generally not Christians, --- as they donot believe in the mythical esoteric Jesus that I believe in and churches donot dare teach it.

This first clip gives the theological and philosophical interpretationof what Jesus taught and the second clip show what I think is a closerepresentation of the method that helped me push my apotheosis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alRNbesfXXw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

Basically, the usual Christian Jesus is their hero and savior while myversion demand that man himself steps up to the plate and save himself.

Which version do you think is more moral and deserving of praise andwhy?

Regards
DL
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top