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Regional Pills/MD(M)A Discussion V. I don't understand this chemical waffle
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havnt had MDMA in ages so bought a gram of crystal and it's just mongy, sleepy crap. No smile and no love just eye wiggles and a numb empty feeling
Started off with 150mgs and seemed promising but never got any better so did another 150mgs and just got more eye wiggles, no euphoria...nothing.
I much prefer Mephedrone now
Started off with 150mgs and seemed promising but never got any better so did another 150mgs and just got more eye wiggles, no euphoria...nothing.
I much prefer Mephedrone now
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ferrett1979
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Trecle, hope u r right mate 
Have a few rainbow drops to try....will be the first time to try a non-dutch bean (if what is said is true). Any reviews of the blue ghosts or DEEP BLUE Tesla (not the s model or baby blue)?.
Have a few rainbow drops to try....will be the first time to try a non-dutch bean (if what is said is true). Any reviews of the blue ghosts or DEEP BLUE Tesla (not the s model or baby blue)?.
consumer
Bluelighter
Anyone here had banana shaped beans? Really nice looking press. Not sure if these are made here or are dutch? Possibly munching some later.
Al / methylamine / HgCl2 / MDP2P reductive amination - it is right . not - nitromethane
I'm trying to say that nitromethane is not needed if the precursor safrole
Why do dealers in the dark network on the market that advertise a product is made from safrole, describe how it was performed , but it is wrong to write
Itsgoneundertheboa
Bluelighter
Saw a few reports from OZ on them prob not Dutch. So you stand a chance ??
http://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=35402
But this one has a warning that the press is compromised at the end so be careful bruv
http://pillreports.net/index.php?page=display_pill&id=35447
And a quick check reveals that the press is indeed compromised - the Chinese have copied and are selling the pill press moulds to anyone. Be very careful.
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SquidInSunglasses
Bluelighter
Because the nitromethane reduces to methylamine in situ because it's sat on a giant pile of reducing agent, and the reaction proceeds from there. The reason it's favoured over methylamine is because it's easier to obtain and still works just fine, because it's all sat in a bucketload of reducing agents. Any amount of time reading any of the shady chemistry sites on the internet, or indeed A level chemistry knowledge, would be enough to see that this is completely sensible org chem, and also to tell you that the step you should be questioning in that posted description is that they have a random epoxidation which would be completely unneeded when you were planning to Wacker oxidise the double bond anyway. Seriously, just don't try and debate chemistry when you are lacking even basic knowledge on the area, it's just making you look like an idiot.
As supporting evidence, here is a reaction involving reductive amination (well, arguably it's a reductive methylation, but the reaction pathways are identical, it's still forming a C-N bond from a carbonyl and an amine, and the amine is being prepared in situ from a nitro compound. The exact details aren't relevant really), straight from wikipedia, that uses a nitro compound as a starting reagent:
consumer
Bluelighter
Its all good. The pills are sound. Very nice indeed. I am going to grab a pile off my mate while the opportunity is there.
Can you elaborate, mate? Are we talking loved-up and euphoric?
consumer
Bluelighter
Very much so. Lots of energy too. Its been nearly two years since i have had a pill. These were great. Pretty sure they were made here as i cant find reports on them from anywhere else. I bought 20 of them off my mate while he had them. It was claimed on the dark web that they were 120mg of mdma. Ive been taking pills since 1989 and they compare favourably to pills back in the day.
consumer
Bluelighter
Had another 1 and a half bananas tonight. Really nice e's. Was not expecting much seeing we smashed our serotonin last night but feeling fantastic. About to get a cab home and listen to a few tunes to see the night out. Grabbed another ten of them so i am well sorted for the foreseeable future. An aussies who come across the original press snap them up...but apparently their are dodgy copies around now. Quality pingers indeed.
SquidInSunglasses
Bluelighter
Conclusion on audis: they're a wipe, but this cushion is suuuuuuuuper comfy and I have a ton of speed to get tings back on track.
SquidInSunglasses
Bluelighter
Okay, more reasoned review of the blue Audi grills than the above:
They are dutch crap/mongy/MongDMA/whatever else you feel like cooling them. Point is, they fuck you up big time, almost more like being drunk or on K than any description of good pills I've ever read. Zero energy, plenty of eye wiggles, balance was completely wrecked and judging by the reactions I got I must have been slurring my speech something godawful. All that said, they were still kinda fun, and I'll find something to do with the spare one I have, I'm sure. Sure as hell won't be going clubbing though. Maybe hugs? Hugs would go well with it I think.
They are dutch crap/mongy/MongDMA/whatever else you feel like cooling them. Point is, they fuck you up big time, almost more like being drunk or on K than any description of good pills I've ever read. Zero energy, plenty of eye wiggles, balance was completely wrecked and judging by the reactions I got I must have been slurring my speech something godawful. All that said, they were still kinda fun, and I'll find something to do with the spare one I have, I'm sure. Sure as hell won't be going clubbing though. Maybe hugs? Hugs would go well with it I think.
Itsgoneundertheboa
Bluelighter
^ IMHO You did go heavy if you dropped a full Audi for your first time Squid?
Really even with shit Mongy MD those pills are known to be 200 mg. MD can be a less is more drug.
Perhaps next time do a 3/4 and then 1/4 drop when you feel the peak on the first.
Although now you've been to the eyes rolling back place it's sometimes hard to consider any other dose. But do its worth playing to find the sweet spot.
But of course it does help to get some decent MD. Here's hoping your next time is more S and less R ?
Really even with shit Mongy MD those pills are known to be 200 mg. MD can be a less is more drug.
Perhaps next time do a 3/4 and then 1/4 drop when you feel the peak on the first.
Although now you've been to the eyes rolling back place it's sometimes hard to consider any other dose. But do its worth playing to find the sweet spot.
But of course it does help to get some decent MD. Here's hoping your next time is more S and less R ?
SquidInSunglasses
Bluelighter
I never felt like I hit a point of eyes rolling back, I just felt disconnected from the crowd (well, for a little bit, and then Run You happened, and basically if you could physically move you would have felt the same regardless of what you were on), flopped on a cushion for a bit, got booted out when I tried to stagger over to the bar for some water, and then went wandering the streets of Manc (albeit guided by google maps) and staggered around, grabbed a few things I needed from the store (usually involving me repeating the question "do you sell travel sickness pills?" three times cause I was apparently barely understandable), got barred from a few clubs, managed to make it into a bar where I chilled for a while and had a few shots, and by then the MD was starting to wear off enough that I could get a good kick out of my speed, although I think it was still damping things a bit, as I never managed to hit a proper speed peak that night. The speed did keep me going all the way till 8 am though, which was half the point of bringing it.
On an unrelated note, what's people's opinions on moshing on MDMA (MoshDMA?)? Although I wasn't on the best roll, it certainly felt like the two were not at all suited to each other. I'd rather have a pure stimulant and let the music do all the work on controlling my mood, when it comes to mosh pits, though I can see where the appeal of a proper roll lies if you're just dancing and not playing bumper cars with everyone nearby. This calls for science, and there's a local midnight-8 am warehouse party coming up in a bit over a month that I will try use to one half, and then I just need a metal show to speed through to clinch things. What do you guys think, or am I just residually stim-blathering?