Regional Pill/MDMA Discussion

[nomy]

First I've looked at this thread for ages. Those QDance & Blue Tree pills sound quality but still, it would cost me £10 to make a 250mg MDMA "pill" (bomber/capsule) so still not worth it imo. In fact it would cost me even less than that at the moment %)

& I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Crystal is still the way forward until the price drops on the pills. They can't put enough MD in them to justify a tenner without making them dangerous.

Yeah I'm with you on that. Although I'm still interested in what else may be in their blend I wouldn't turn any away that's for sure.

 

[SpecialK_]

diamonds, cocks, elephants, lacostes, rockstars, blanks, camels, smileys, route 66, soviet stars, 140s, shamrocks, standbys, facebooks, doves, volkswagens.. and thats not including the smaller batches that have appeared all over the UK :S compared to about 3-4 piperazine presses... not seen it this good for a while and looks to only get better

Someone knows their sources!

Thanks for the pictures they'll help when it comes to buying.

 

[missing old pills]

Hands free texting is it, or some voice recognition software, or just a lot of downtime

Are you away every night then mate? My mate is away driving long haul every week. He's become quite the guitarist in his spare time. Sounds a good job to me.

Lots of down time pal when the boys are emptying my trailer but I get home(for what it's worth).
I must say the reports rolling in are getting more and more encouraging

 

[adam phinel]

yeah matt the bottom picture is what I assumed the "q dance was", it's an insane pill -- one of the strongest in the netherlands and the moment apart from the brown tree and elephant

I think the ones knocking about the UK are the top picture, well mine are anyway and I'm in the UK. I say very good. I doubt 160mg but I think they must be at about 130mg abouts. Its funny though it is slightly different feeling to when I do just MDMA crystal. Not like you feel much different but maybe just a little more racy perhaps. I find the MDMA crystal a bit more smooth and relaxing? Well not relaxing but you know what I mean

One thing that I don't know if it has been mentioned though about MDMA in shulgins book phikal is the major difference in his report with 100mg dose compared to 120mg dose

Basically if you havent read it he says 100mg didn't do much and certainly didn't put him in a happy place. But 120mg on the other hand he says was amazing?

I suspect alot of the differences we all experience are simply dose related.

 

[dee_dee]

once weve got what we want, a top quality mdma pill with top grade mdma 150>200mgs and no active binders made well, then were half way there. think it may come now?

next on the agenda is a decent mda pill, we havent won the war as yet, by a long shot. onwards and upwards though. and no pussy boi 40mgs mda rest mdma or other crap, we want 100mgs> 200mgs as long as it doesnt delve into the danger zone

 

[missing old pills]

I think the ones knocking about the UK are the top picture, well mine are anyway and I'm in the UK. I say very good. I doubt 160mg but I think they must be at about 130mg abouts. Its funny though it is slightly different feeling to when I do just MDMA crystal. Not like you feel much different but maybe just a little more racy perhaps. I find the MDMA crystal a bit more smooth and relaxing? Well not relaxing but you know what I mean

One thing that I don't know if it has been mentioned though about MDMA in shulgins book phikal is the major difference in his report with 100mg dose compared to 120mg dose

Basically if you havent read it he says 100mg didn't do much and certainly didn't put him in a happy place. But 120mg on the other hand he says was amazing?

I suspect alot of the differences we all experience are simply dose related.

Do you know what mate I've never thought about it like that.
I have with other drugs but thanks for that

 

[parttime crackhead]

once weve got what we want, a top quality mdma pill with top grade mdma 150>200mgs and no active binders made well, then were half way there. think it may come now?

next on the agenda is a decent mda pill, we havent won the war as yet, by a long shot. onwards and upwards though. and no pussy boi 40mgs mda rest mdma or other crap, we want 100mgs> 200mgs as long as it doesnt delve into the danger zone

200mg MDA pills knocking about clubs in the UK would be dangerous. Maybe not life or death dangerous (I'm not aware of the lethal doses) but dangerous in that people would get too fucked up. Double drop them, 400mg of MDA at once?

 

[adam phinel]

200mg MDA pills knocking about clubs in the UK would be dangerous. Maybe not life or death dangerous (I'm not aware of the lethal doses) but dangerous in that people would get too fucked up. Double drop them, 400mg of MDA at once?

I did wonder if that was why it 's rare to get combo pills like that now? Maybe nobody wants the risk?

There was a book about ecstasy which I can't remember the name of from the 90s. I'm pretty sure it was written in the UK.

Anyway in there had alot of information and pill tests from the old days. I can't remember full details but what stood out that I remember was that most of the pills tested were MDMA MDEA mix pills I think something like 60mg of each.

I also remember they said the strongest pill tested was a dove and it was 380mg MDMA.

 

[Stone84]

I haven't done any pills since 2007, but I am up for doing some now.

Do you think I could cope with a pill which was 180mg plus? Isn't that pretty much the same as dropping two 'decent' pills?

I think I would be happy with just a 120mg pill, I reckon that would still blow my brain.

Also, I am prescribed 100mg of Sertraline (an SSRI). Now I know they affect your ability to enjoy ecstasy, but I take them infrequently.

I am supposed to have one a day, but I take them as and when I feel like it. I probably average about 4 a month. What affect do you think this may have on me taking pills now?

Also, not being funny, but I get quite a decent buzz of them Sertralines. Not as intense as a pill, but very similar, but somewhat milder effects to be honest.

 

[missing old pills]

200mg MDA pills knocking about clubs in the UK would be dangerous. Maybe not life or death dangerous (I'm not aware of the lethal doses) but dangerous in that people would get too fucked up. Double drop them, 400mg of MDA at once?

There used to be the odd 200mg mda pills. I never double dropped til much later.
I do very much see your point though

 

[Stone84]

Also, them pills in 2007 were shit. Infact they probably wern't even pills.

However I remember having some BOSS pills in 2006. They were every bit as good as my first pill back in 1998. I was on Sertraline infrequently in 2006 as well, but I still properly came up from those sound ones back in 2006.

 

[dee_dee]

mate ive taken 3 plus snowballs in a night that were 150mg-200 mg pure mda, not just once, for 6 months at least, most weekends and sometimes even on friday and sat nights. stupid when your not that educated, yes indeed. am i alive and well, yes indeed. its all about control really, when i was young i was a little reckless. these days, if those pills fell into my lap, i no to just swallow one and leave it at that, and i also no to not do it again for a month. i dont think they made clubland dangerous at all, it was fun, a bit messy, lots of people hallucinating and getting sick, yes, but real drugs are dangerous mate, thats why its class a and illegal.

people have got into this mindset that mdma and even more so mda is safe, its not safe, its just the people producing it has been not only being tight to make more money, but more than likely preventing themsleves from getting caught, by minimising risk for the consumer.

its a class a drug, no one wants to see people come to harm, but it is what it is. everyone knows for a decent dose of mdma u need to take 150>200mgs, if that wasnt the case, u wouldnt have xmas trees at 200 mgs knocking about places like the netherlands. mda they say u should take a little less, thats the way it is, but u can have a wicked trip and still be fine on 200 mgs, some people may shit themsleves and never want to do it again, but isnt that what it is? a class synthetic hallucnigen? its not ment to be a gentle passifer, if people dont like it, then maybe they shouldnt be doing it in the first place

 

[parttime crackhead]

It wasn't till towards the end of 2007 that my pill supply started getting shit. That was the reason I joined this site, to try & find out what the fuck was going on.

Your idea of why it's a class A drug is completely skewed btw dee dee

Also, 3 in a night is different from 2 at once. Plus you were probably used to that. Someone used to taking shit pills gets their hands on extremely high dose MDA pills & rattles two just to be sure they get a dunt is in for trouble.

 

[missing old pills]

I know the CIA killed someone with a 450mg injection of mda when they were conducting project mk ultra but I don't know how 450mg would hit you by oral means as it wouldn't be as harsh.
I did do the classic back in the day of dropping a pill and 40 minutes later thinking 'fuck alls happening' only to drop another and be twatted out of the solar system for two hours!
God knows how much kicked in that time as they were strong mixed pills

 

[parttime crackhead]

^ Haha, have done the same many a time. Not with super-strong 90's efforts but with double dropping decent pills, 30 minutes later getting impatient, thinking they're not working, chewing one, dropping another 2 then about 5 minutes feel the original two kicking in fairly hard & think "Oh shit!" 1 hour later it's wander about the club & talk complete nonsense to freaked out people time. One of my mates was fucking famous for almost always rattling his entires nights supply of pills by the time we'd queued to get in the club & queued to ditch our jackets. He'd come bouncing up like "I've taken all my pills already " then he'd be a fucking riot for the rest of the night lol.

That was with a reasonable tolerance though. If I'd tanned that many when all I'd been taking for the past year was pipz or nothing I'd probably have went to hospital lol.

This MDMA chat has just reminded me that I've got 3g of good crystal sitting in my room. Yas! Bought it a week or so ago to keep for decent nights out, not had any since I got it but got Slam at Sub Club this Friday, Tobi Neumann at Sub Club next Friday & Laurent Garnier at The Arches the following Friday. On ye go!!!! %)

 

[dee_dee]

when we start getting top quality pills, good synth mdma, mda, mdea, whatever floats peoples boats, all at min 150mgs>max 200mgs preferably the top end of the range amount, then thats when we are getting the drug correct and how its ment to be. then people, myslef included are going to have to learn to not be greedy. (if we can)

take it in the correct enviroment, with your favourite people, preferably on an empty-ish stomache ,one dose, and then leave it at that.


u have just experienced the ecstacy family of drugs, how they was always ment to be. it may be risky, some people may decide they dont like it, imo, most people always do

 

[parttime crackhead]

^ You're right. It's just that when you started taking them that was standard. Folk are used to rattling a lot more than 1 pill these days & folk are reckless/clueless. I'm not saying that I wouldn't love a pill like that I'm just saying that they would be dangerous. They would also bring a lot of bad publicity as well. If a certain stamp was an extreme high dose pill, people started getting fucked up on them, then the papers get a hold of it, the cops would be coming after the dealers of those particular pills much harder than others.

 

[missing old pills]

I just wish they were made more professionaly with the amount and substance stamped on it instead of fucking stupid designer labels.
And it did exactly what it said on the tin!
We can all live in hope I suppose

 

[Jblazingphoenix100]

re; Crackhead's post - exactly - it's macho as fuck to neck so many pills you're gurning your face off in a puddle at a party for some reason, it's ingrained into our culture to take drug taking to an excess, just like everything else.

I disagree with you about the stamp thing though, they'd have to find them first - not easy, especially at the industrial scale most good stamps get pressed - heard of any huge busts of grade A MDMA pills recently? No - pills busts happen to stupid people in this country.

There's a number of really good stamps going about north western europe right now, and it's getting better - I think we're gonna see a rise in 100mg+ tablets in the next few years - my opinion only of course, nothing but speculation.

 

[missing old pills]

The thing that worries me is what is being discussed.
We started on some very strong pills back in the '80s and got progressively weaker.
Now things seem to be going in reverse. It going to catch people out trust me.