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Regional Heroin Discussion v14: What's the point?

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After nearly two weeks off, Backroll is back!

2 and a half of some 7/10 which is not quite as good as recently but the price was excellent. 10x2mg etizolam, a ton of Atarax, a henry of UR-144 and drinks on request : )

Missus is going away Sunday night til Thursday, so it's me and the cats and a nice big gouch on the couch. Even got some spare dough for some cheeky whites : )

Happy holidays everyone. And a big shout out to D, you know who you are ; )

Can't wait to see Madness play on top of the German people's mansion on Monday night. Oi oi!!!
 
ructions said:
Will a higher does really stop the cravings? & how so when the cravings are in your head? I've managed to stay on 60mls even though it barely holds me, it keeps me feeling well for about 20hours but the last 4 hours can be a struggle, but no always. But i've always tried my best not to go over 60mls. But do you reckon that if i took a higher dose that my cravings would stop? Coz its the cravings that are my biggest problem! How does it stop cravings, how does it stop you wanting to get stoned? :?
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Hi Ructs
Its complicated and to do with brain chemistry but simply put when all your Mu receptors are flooded with methadone the part of your brain that makes you crave is 'switched off' as the brain is getting what it wants i.e. opioids. Think of it like haveing a .1 bag that stops the wd's but you get no buzz compared to having .3 or what ever where you are sated and gouching - you dont crave then do you?.
You need to talk to an addiction specialist not some do gooder at the clinic who can explain alot better than I. methadone.org has lots of info but like i said the dose needs to be 80-120 for most people.
 
blondin said:
A heart attack means that your heart is stopping beating or beating erratically not beating fast you numpty - research a bit more b4 you put your stories on here. I said that good tar is as good as afghani which it is - it comes up to 80% sometimes but most of the shit in the US is cut unless you live in places like Austin, or border towns or go to mexico and get a good connect.
And yes the gear im getting now is better than PD stuff but its twice the price - as its coming in , in small parcels and if you know the right peoiple you get it without it being stamped on at all, the drought hasnt effected me much at all and whether you believe me or not matters not a jot - I dont know how old you are i guess under 25 im an awful lot older than that so I dont need to lie or try and impress - there are those on here who know me and know that I dont bullshit.

btw to the OP chinawhite is fine but just doesnt post anymore.
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ur heart speeds up before it stops u tick im being called a liar by the biggist bull shitter in here...how ironic
 
BigNasty said:
Sorry mate, Chinawhite used to post in this forum , I wondered if he still does ?

I didn't wash it up in the end, always the danger that I could waste some of it. Have been IV'ing it instead, feel a million dollars still even though I aint had a wink of sleep !
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Thats how i lost all my veins doing coke and speedballs - coke is evil iv its like a hit every 1o minutes - i use to do one then after the rush start preparing the next one - I had a fair bit for 18months or so and when you got oz's sitting about your self controll goes out the window - still miss my hearing going to 11 on the treble and the lovely coke taste at the back of the throat - Man i did some reqlly stoopid tings which make me shudder when i look back
 
Hiya Blondin

Lost most of my veins IVin' 'phet, 18-22 before finally gettig a major psychosis . Went 6 months drug free then psychosis again through lack of sleep -much worse this time, (in part cos I coundn't blame it on the phet/stims), I d used a B few times uptil then but always thought - yeah, nice, but whats the point. Then after blowing my mind I got the point just fine. Stopped going out, mainly just wanted to stop my thoughs racing. Can you the think of something that might help with that...oh yeah. Earning decent money at the time and met Missus Rattles who'd had a habit but was just using p/t. Rattles was using 0.8 to 1.6 (a 'teenth) daily within six months. Lost home, ended up picking up used pins , swilling then using puddles/ water from toilet bowls and shooting in public, usually obliterated on 'brew. Stupid things all right... Anyhows, eventually pulled my shit together (and was lucky) enough to get get back with Mrs Rattles on/off clean and in general managing -yeah...model citizen-, tho' I guess I'll always want my security blanket.... not for rush so much as to turn down the volume on my mind.

ps For all the daftness and sharing (not for 5 years now btw), somehow, luckily, no HEP ab or c or other major issues ( 'cept a bit of r.Leg thrombosis from Fem. IV).

Regards mate, all the best to you

Rattles
 
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I saw the Nato/UN or whatever department (cant remember) chart for opium production in Afghanistan on some youtube video and the 2011 production is double that of 2010.

And it shows that the 2010 amount was the lowest since 2000/2001 which was basically nothing.
 
alfo said:
Hey all... I started my script for methadone last week after almost 6 months waiting on "the list".
Naturally enough i've not stopped smoking yet. I'm only on 30mls atm but it doesn't seem to b holding me for d 24 hours, so I assume they will put me up a little?

I never really wanted to go on phy coz there's not one person I know that has stopped takin heroin while on it. I'm terrified that I'm giving myself a double habit, then I'll b worse off than i was b4. I know its early days, and just because everyone else I know is doing both doesn't mean I have to.
I can avoid people in my town and get people to stop ringing me wen they're selling but what an irony it is that the place I go to get help is the place where I can make lots more contacts and buy gear there if I want - like all clinics I guess.

I dunno if I've made d right choice, although I'd social workers on my back telling me that I had to go on it or risk having my child taken off me.
I'm sure I'll just have to try to pull some will-power outta somewhere and at least try to begin to lessen what I already smoke.
Heres hoping!
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Good Luck to you Alfo, fuckers making you wait so long, spec. with the kids. But yeah, policy may be different in Eire but they they don't want you to keep using so i guess they'll up your Green til' you're ok. Course, stopping using's a diferent matter, thats just down to you - why you use and what you get from it. Got the same troubles as you with the social on mine and Mrs Rattles case -cos , guess what, after 14 monthes not using Misus R picks up a contact at -you guessed it, the clinic. Though it was only 1-2 times a week (and when kids where away) when they found out, they're suddenly jumpin' all over us - new policy I think , they've always been more 'supportive' before.
Anyhow, speak to one of the irish posters who might know more about policy, but you can't really do more than try your best to stop using if you've got the littluns, and insist that the fuckers at the clinic give you enough 'done so's at least your'e not clucking..

Love and thinking of you (and bairns)

Rattles

ps Can't you get subs (buprenorphine) prescibed in your part of Eire?
 
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Ructions..Thanks 4 d words of encouragment. It really is unbelievable that d gear is still bad, hasn't stopped me buying tho.
I'm just trying to run b4 I can walk wen it comes to the phy. I saw it as something that I wud b on 4 d rest of my life, completly ignoring d fact that I wasn't able to give up d gear.
When I came to terms with goin on d phy I saw my future easier, a clear head and a heavy purse! And with wishful thinking I saw this happening very quickly. In reality this is gonna take a while to happen, if at all. If I have extra money, I'm at a total loss as what to do with it, only spend it on crappy gear, eventho I'm behind on bills, need clothes and a million more important ways to spend it.
Unfortunatly methadone doesn't re-train yr brain back to so called normality, After so many years of smoking u'd think i'd know there's no quick fix -which of course the rational part of me does but i'm usually an optimist and d last thing i wanna do is start tellin myself that i've no future at all.

RATTLES..... tanx 4 yr post.... Where i live we can't get subs. I asked my GP bout them a few years ago and he'd never heard of them.

Ireland is backwards at coming forwards wen it comes to helping addicts. Ireland in general is very good at turning its back on issues it shud b facing head on.
 
Shit luck , subs are prob . your best chance if you REALLY want to quit. Govt. policies are either shit or follow some convoluted logic which still isn't in our best intrests (or anyones except their own -be it Jews , Communists, terrorists or Junkies, the state always needs an enemy within and Junkies and the poor without a voice will always be top of the list)
It'll never be easy to stop, but you'll never have a better reason than kids. Mine are the only ones that make me laugh and smile anymore ...
 
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scrooloose said:
Don't post in these threads usually because i'm not a heroin addict/user. Been so near the stuff in the past but would never participate,because i know 100 per cent i would become a full blown addict.

I take it the truely addicted peeps want to come off the stuff..
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If you're talking about the drug, not the lifestyle that results from its prohibition, no. No more than I want to come off my prostate pills or any other medication that serves a purpose.

The trouble is its criminalisation and the accompanying hysteria serve to occlude the fact that, for some people, heroin serves a medicinal purpose. At some stage in the future its use will become as clearly as defined as prostate pills. Those who need it will take it and the rest won't, any more than they'd take prostate pills, and the 'heroin problem' as we know it will cease to exist.
 
alfo said:
RATTLES..... tanx 4 yr post.... Where i live we can't get subs. I asked my GP bout them a few years ago and he'd never heard of them.

Ireland is backwards at coming forwards wen it comes to helping addicts. Ireland in general is very good at turning its back on issues it shud b facing head on.
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Haven't posted on here in ages but i do have a look now and again, just wanna let the irish know you can get subs here, my doctor offered me them a couple of years ago, I never went on them tho because he said before you take them you need to be opiate free for 24 to 48 hours and I wasn't up for that. I think there subotex??

I know you lot have been hearing ructions and co saying there has been no good gear in ireland and that theyve scored all over and it's all the same shite etc etc which I can't understand cos I was, up until a couple of months ago getting good stuff for about a year in a few different area's. If someone ran out we'd just move on to the next person with nice. Ructions I think I remember you saying you go to merchants quay, I was getting lovely stuff around there for months, and it wasn't just the same bash gear, I know what proper gear is, altough I wish I didn't. Fckin curse the day I ever touched the stuff.
Once there is good stuff in england there will always be good over here, it's only a boat ride away after all.
But the last few weeks it has gone to shite so for the first time in about ten years I'm sticking to me phy, because I want to not cos I have to. I'm delighted with meself I keep thinking why the hell didn't I do this a long time ago, but it's never that easy, as we all know. It's like something just clicked in my head and it wasn't bothering me anymore. Early days tho but hopefully ive had enough after 15 years of this shit.

Ructions you are HR at its best fair play to you! I'd say you kept alot of people clean in Ireland throughout the last year, people checking this forum and reading your posts saying there's nothing decent around, probley didn't bother and kept their money in their pockets!

Oh yeah Dublin is a very small place but not all junkies know each other, there is over 10,000 of them in dublin.
I don't even know all the junkies in my area let alone Dublin :D

How is Kat doing, has any of you heard from her?
 
sounds like you need something to deal with anxiety - valium or the like, but to be honest you should have a proper talk with yer doc.
 
eireann said:
ur heart speeds up before it stops u tick im being called a liar by the biggist bull shitter in here...how ironic
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Like i said junior I have nothing to prove to strangers on a forum - I dont bullshit on here or anywhere else. I have alot of knowledge accumulated over the years which i pass on where i can. There are a few people like you on this forum who just sprout nonsense for no other reason than to pass them selves off as people that they are not - you are on my blacked out list now so i wont se anymore of your posts as i really haven't got the time or the need to read and reply to your sillyness
 
charlie clean said:
If you're talking about the drug, not the lifestyle that results from its prohibition, no. No more than I want to come off my prostate pills or any other medication that serves a purpose.

The trouble is its criminalisation and the accompanying hysteria serve to occlude the fact that, for some people, heroin serves a medicinal purpose. At some stage in the future its use will become as clearly as defined as prostate pills. Those who need it will take it and the rest won't, any more than they'd take prostate pills, and the 'heroin problem' as we know it will cease to exist.
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I wonder how many people there are who truly want to give up heroin? Not the lifestyle that accompanies it, not the money they spend on it, but the drug itself? It's not like cocaine or alcohol or amphetamines that damage the body or mind, in itself there's just not much motivation to give up heroin and the many and varied benefits it conveys.

Obviously it happens, because you have wealthy individuals who, despite theoretically being able to support a habit until the end of their days, end up quitting the drug eventually. Do they just get tired of being reliant on a chemical to function?
 
weldone redz,keep it up...u can get gear and ur not so its ur choice thats a brill sign for staying off it.....lads that blondin guys mad dont no why u all dont tell him to cop on the pure made up bull he goes on with
 
Feeling great this evening. Yesterday I owed my mate a tenner so I called him to see if he was heading down to the soup kitchen for dinner. I'm on 15ml a day but I've managed to cut myself down to 10ml so every week I end up with a small stock pile. Before I left the house I took my usual 10ml but took a 30ml bottle just in case I felt like a wee charge later. After dinner and back at my mate's house I tanned back the 30ml I'd brought with me. If I have any kind of opiate/opioid charge in me I get a heavy craving for a smoke so if I've no hash I just smoke roll ups.

I headed home and once back I popped 4 0.5mg Clonazepam. Got a nice sleep, woke up at about 10:30 am and popped another 2 Clonazepam and 10ml of Meth'. That knocked me out for most of the afternoon but at around 10 this evening I decided to pop another 4 Clonazepam and anothe 30ml of Meth and with a few roll ups it's left me with quite a nice mellow gouchy feeling. I've noticed that now I've got myself down to just 10ml a day I get quite a nice wee glow when I take a quadruple dose of Meth'. They Clonazepam compliment a drink of Methadone perfectly. LOL this post took ages to put together because I'm seeing double at the moment.
 
eireann said:
weldone redz,keep it up...u can get gear and ur not so its ur choice thats a brill sign for staying off it.....lads that blondin guys mad dont no why u all dont tell him to cop on the pure made up bull he goes on with
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I could never understand who anyone would take an interest in a national kit dry-up thread when there's been no dry-up for him. It's like he's trying to get us to feel bad whilst he gets to indulge in what's fresh outta Afghanistan. Sometime I feel he's insulting our intelligence when he talks about the biggest dry-up I've ever experienced in my 15 years of using.

To me these message boards are the Blondin Brag-Fest boards.
 
Your above post says "feeling great today" same thing really init? Bragging...

We cover all topics: scoring, quality, size, price, methadone, subutex, gouching, withdrawing, crack (Brimz), booze, benzos droughts, floods, work, works, smoking it, tin foil and tits. And each person covers various topics but mainly the one's affecting them most.

I feel almost hatred every time someone gives a good bag rating on here and I ain't got, but if you ain't high then how can you not be??

Bluelight dont help sometimes with mood
 
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