Regional Heroin Discussion v14: What's the point?

[kkattastic]

hiya ma fellow blrs friends, a pop in n out to see how our @kat is getting on at least now its comein to a end now 1 way or another pal its the not knowin its the worsexxxxxxxxxxx by readin ur comments the gear is better for some of ye. a used the other week after being 6 months clean and a never got fk all off it fkn shockin after 6 months clean and injected it a should a got something out of it GUTTED, a should a known better but a was stressed out to fk the cid lifted me out the house n charged me with supplin H.M.P addiewell it was a letter a sent up in dec n they got it thats nearly 5 month ago, they had my daps all ere it oouucchh before ye all start a should a wore cloves but it was the 1st time av done a letter n didnt think they would do forensics on a fkn letter. its always been done personaly ? there is something not right why did it take 5 months before they came knockin, it stinks to me av never heard of this happenin to anybody else am the 1st whats that all about....
am really needin all ur advice on this 1 something not right....l havent been up to the prison since nov so maybe they were waitin on me to visit am fkd now am on an indietment for concerned in the supply its was a undercover so this is going to be another indietment concerned in the supply of h.m.p am fkd is it just me but something not right with this plz help me any advice, am a being para or av a been set up with a fkn grass xx

It was 5mnths after my man got busted before they came for me
we realise now it took 5mnths for him to decide to give me up-so maybe a fuckin grass???I don't think you being paranoid.stuff gets into jail and jealousy is rife-you know better than me
with the one you just dodged and this too,you gotta be looking at time
I am seeing my solicitor tomorrow
i am just waiting yo hear the words 'cctv'
that is the only thing that can bring me down so has to be that
wanna try n score too
should really be saving the ££ for inside but i need to have before i go away cos will be the last i get-need to say my goodbye to gear
had some last week and it was nice-light fluffy stuff but very small deals again
spent all day at the dentist today as they lost my file last year and left my dental work unfinished and now am starting to feel it-try n get it done before next friday

 

[eireann]

wtf i lived in lille best gear evr

I have a very good friend in holland and he told me in the past that the gear over there is consistently 30% always has been - he's kinda in the 'scene' in a sorta safe house way he's trusted as he rarely touches the stuff but he does do 240mls of 'done a day ! so knows his stuff....as for france its gotta have the worse gear in europe always been shit , loads of junkies there bang up sub's instead -those French Connection days are long gone when they use to refine opium in to H in Marseilles(sp) if you ever meet a french junkie it'l probably be in london same for italians as we have/had the rep for the best gear - better than holland tho it is/was cheaper there 25e a g but like i said not as strong as we use to get 45% or so.
BUt hey who knows whats happening now last time i spoke with my dutch mate some months ago he said the average was 12-15%

 

[eireann]

its scarey d love u have for gear wake up its killing u,,,,,cop on

Oh...my...god...I just got this tackle from my turkish mate and it is absoultely wonderful, I have had 3! 3! fucking lines and I am more ineiberateed and warm and euphoric and totally fucking fantastic than I've ever felt since I had kit from my pashtu mate a good 2 year ago...3 LINES!!!!!!! Like Blondin I'm paying A LOT for it about £10 for 0.07-0.09 but everyone I'm sure would pay for a £30 bag of genuine fire, than 3 bags of medicore shit.

It looks so beautiful the powder: its not hard, stoney and rocky, but this great fluffy, dandruff like substence.


It has sadly made me realise that people are seriously kidding themselves on--I'm as guilty of it as anyone--if they think that what they are smoking is actual heroin, its shite, pure, utter, shite. For the first time in a long time I feel that overwhelming sense of inner peace, serenity and ability to engage with oneself. I actually forgot heroin could do that to you, it was a faded, distant memory long extingushed, that I never thought would be re-lit.

I've just had my fourth line and im on the verge of a gouch, this is truly awesome, awesome stuff 9.5 Blondns

 

[ructions]

its scarey d love u have for gear wake up its killing u,,,,,cop on

Ummm.... seems like you have stumbled onto the wrong thread Eireann. If you find Oxynorm's post scary then i can't imagine you'd have much interest in any of the other posts on this thread! So instead of getting your self all wound up your probably best off not reading any of the posts at all!!!

This is a Heroin discussion thread, everyone on here uses heroin, thats just the way it is! We are all fully aware of what we are doing & we are all over 21 years of age, so there is no need for you to get upset or worried! Later gator!!! :D

 

[blondin]

its scarey d love u have for gear wake up its killing u,,,,,cop on

I think you will find we allhave similar feelings thats why we take it and post here

 

[strungout2010]

@ eireann

If oxynorm's post bothers you so much , then your best off out of it.
I can fully understand his love/lust for good gear , it's pritty much what everyone on this thread ( bar you ) is after.
Any of us can walk away anytime we want, but then we might miss out on a proper fucking score like oxynorm's.

 

[oxynorm]

its scarey d love u have for gear wake up its killing u,,,,,cop on

What an insightful, introspective post.

And Alcohol "kils" millions every weekend. Bladdred out of their faces so much that they either start fight, sleep with whoever the hell they want, vomit on our pavements and make our town centres no go areas. And these are "law abiding citizens" as far as the misuse of drugs act. Who would the police rather deal with: a town full of junkies ads or a town full of drunken louts? Heroin is no panacea but it satisfies me emotionally and makes me more productive, it is my dirty indulgence so to speak. And I work for every point of it. No crime, dishonesty involved--like the vast majority of contributors here.
For your information, I have a 2.1 degree from a top university (do you?) and have a decent graduate job (do you?) that I attend without fail every day. I pay my taxes (probably, more than you) and therefore feel that I am entitled to spend the money that I earn on whatever the hell I want. I have a great partner, steady homelife and supportive family, and I am far from what your image of a "Junkie" may be. Much like Blondin, Ructions and many others of the fine contributers to this thread. From a physiological point of view opiates are one of the most benign substances to put into your body, I do not see in what way I am killing myself--mentally or physically.

Just read some of Charlie-Cleans posts to see what a literate fellow someone who is "killing themselves can be". I apologise to others on the thread--and thank you for sticking up for me-- if it looks like I'm blowing my own trumpet; im not, just wanted to put this idiot in his place. Stay out of a Heroin discussion thread if you do not want to read Heroin users talking about Heroin. Dont bother replying to my post as I want reply, as it is obvious you are simply trolling.

Things steadly improving here, up to a 6.5/7 /10 now...really pale white powder that will induce an itch and a gouch after a .2--but nowhere near the gouch I get from the Turkish stuff. I am seeing my mate in Wednesday to pick up a bit from him then--apparently its even better than the last time, cant imagine anything that is--so will certainly will be interesting, and will be careful with it. Hope everything is going well and wish to fuck that things would suddenly pick up in Ireland!!! really feel for you ructions and others, just do not know why someone doesnt go over on the ferry and as you say, make a fortune.

Night all--happy tooting.

 

[blondin]

Got the day off tomorrow. a nice bag of gear - some of the best ive had for years, i smoked a point in the car b4 i went home and had to park up for an hour as i couldnt keep me peepers open beautiful stuff meant to be the same as the last couple of weeks but im sure its stronger and it starts coating my teeth after 3 lines. I hope i can get a decent stone or 2 tomorrow as this will level me out just fine but i havent had any good w for a long time and only get it very rarely forhgottenwhatg i was on about canyncarrty on typing all good here
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[oxynorm]

awesome blondin--getting simlar stuff from my turkish mate he;ll be doimg his rounds ob wesbesday--tomorrow basically--and i cannot wait for that five linees and you are out feeling, just cant beat it can u...just ashame its only available to closed communiities.

have a sneaky feeling that u may be right that dis will be the summer of gouching for the UK--mass market wise where i am the quality--for the dealer willing to pay an extra score or more on the garden--has been steadily increasing from mabye a 3/10 in jan to a 6/10 now, thats me being objective. I bought 3 shots tonight of roughly .16-.18 on a bag, put two on the jimmy and was gouching nicely after about 2/3rds of it--definetly the best hes had in a good while. but nowhere near the hardcore head in lap, drooling gouch the turk stuff gives me--buty its nice.

the sad thing is though i need to travel 5 odd miles to get this, all the dealers in my locality will punt the cheap shite yeenths going for pd prices and they are utter crap--2/10 max, sneaky suspicion this is the same as the stuff our poor irish friends are getting. every dealer my end of town has this junk. wouldnt touch it with a bargepole, altho like ructions etal if it was all there was i bloody wouldnt.

Nice night tooting and i hope as many of u as poss had one too--cant wait for wed, shall let yall knor gow i get on

saying that, maube

 

[cazamac]

Sorry to learn of your troubles, cazamac. The five month delay is suspicious and smacks of your being targeted, I'm assuming the other supply charge is quite separate. If the undercover officer gives evidence, is there a way to discredit his claims? Don't want to bring you down but, as you doubtless know, courts take a dim view of smuggling drugs into prisons and you don't want to be going inside just as the big man comes out. I hope you can fight it; with kids, a change of name and a move to another town isn't going to be easy.

@charlie thanks for answerin the undercover op was dealt with a got a 15 month dto but it means am still on bail on a indietment so this new charge is gonna be another 1 for supplin hmp do ye no what fk it theres fk all a can do about it but my senses are screamin at me set up.
am chokin for a good charge.what do ye all think ,if a used on fri would ma piss test be clean for testin on tue afternoon its just they dip testes they use.

 

[cazamac]

It was 5mnths after my man got busted before they came for me
we realise now it took 5mnths for him to decide to give me up-so maybe a fuckin grass???I don't think you being paranoid.stuff gets into jail and jealousy is rife-you know better than me
with the one you just dodged and this too,you gotta be looking at time
I am seeing my solicitor tomorrow
i am just waiting yo hear the words 'cctv'
that is the only thing that can bring me down so has to be that
wanna try n score too
should really be saving the ££ for inside but i need to have before i go away cos will be the last i get-need to say my goodbye to gear
had some last week and it was nice-light fluffy stuff but very small deals again
spent all day at the dentist today as they lost my file last year and left my dental work unfinished and now am starting to feel it-try n get it done before next friday

@kat thanks for the reply think ur spot on pal,am needin a bit of good gear cant score till fri cause am tested tue and fri.am hopein if a score on fri ma sample will be clean for tue afternoon,but a dont think there is anything good out there worth relapsin on lol x

 

[charlie clean]

It's one of many heroin myths that it shortens life, eireann. Pharmaceutical users live as long as anyone else. It's the impurities and the lifestyle that cause the damage and criminalisation is responsible for both. Without the Drug Laws, there would be no 'heroin problem'.

Drug users are the most persecuted minority in Britain today. It's all so needless and users simply do not deserve such treatment. If they commit crimes under the influence, it's covered elsewhere in criminal law. The Drug Laws are a thought-police abomination and nonsense such as affects eireann is publicised as 'fact' to justify their enforcement. The important fact is the Drug Laws are very bad for the nation's health. Users are obliged to buy adulterated product while the propaganda serves to encourage those who like to hurt anyone different to themselves and makes otherwise decent citizens scared and even a little nuts. At long last, there are calls for reform and reason and a Commons sub-committee is now looking into drug policy. Add your voice where you can and demand an end this nasty con.

Drugs were found in an intercepted letter to prison, cazamac, with your fingerprints on the letter? What about the envelope? Did you hear about it at the time? I'd imagine someone was wondering what happened to their parcel, at least. Is there reasonable doubt about your culpability? I'm sure there will be. Hope you can score, today should be ok for a Tuesday test. Feel for Kat, counting down - like you say the waiting is the worst part, the worst they can do to you is nothing compared to what you can do to yourself.

 

[kkattastic]

Feel for Kat, counting down - like you say the waiting is the worst part, the worst they can do to you is nothing compared to what you can do to yourself.

I have to confess,the stress of not using and counting down the days has brought me out in major outbreak of psoriasis and I have shamefully reverted to slashing myself
if I was sentenced to the kind of physical punishment I am inflicting upon myself,there would be amnesty international and Kofi Annan knocking at the door
Went to see my barrister today.Good news is no mention of any cctv.It seems the cps and their 'experts' don't believe my story.I think mostly,they don't believe I didn't make any ££ from it-which I have already stated to them that I only received gear for my part in this-which is true.So in a way this newton trial(no jury-just a judge) may be a good thing cos it will give the judge a chance to see for himself that I am no criminal mastermind-just an addict that is a bit naive and stupid.Anyone who takes the time to talk to me can see this right away so it could be good.But if they still don't believe me,I could lose my 1/3 off for a guilty plea and face the full 5 years.10 days to go,in which time I have to deal with my rotten teeth-so at least I should get one good go on the IV benzos(very nice and worth the nastiness of dentistry).
Good ol' Ructions will let you all know the outcome after the event

 

[endlessnameless]

Happy Tuesday indeed, fellow drug indulgers.

I'm in debt of 50euros (40 short) to one of my recent mains who's been calling me all morning for what I thought was to come and collect, but after I decided to bite the bullet and answer his 12th call - it turned out he just wanted wanted me to test out a new batch he's considering on stocking up with, and that if I test it out then he'll give me a (literal) couple of days grace. He has had the monopoly on the gear, crack, coke and (to a lesser extent) weed scenes around this area of Dublin for a long time now and certainly isnt in immediate need of the cash, but lately he's been finding difficulty getting quality H so he's been offering me testers here and there.

When he placed the bag in my hand I was under the impression he mistakenly have me two white instead as I could feel two rock hard stones inside. Incidentally it turned out to be two rocks of heroin, both of a very light off white colour with dark speckles running through it.

Now, when I woke up this morning I had 40mgs of Diazepam (the appearance of which I need to discuss on another thread which I'll shortly link to in a edit) so naturally this is going to make the gear seem more potent than it my in fact be - but right now I'm doubtlessly goofing/gouching and heck thats good enough for me, considering it was a free tester from a chap I've owed 50euro to since yesterday morning.

I've seen a few posts in regard to this type of product from a few of you alright - what did you think of it yourselves? Its not as nice as what I can get with cash, but it certainly does the job and it couldnt have come at a more perfect time because I'm using the diazepam (15 x 10mgs) to ween myself down as easily as possibly so I can enter a clean spell for a while, and this product is actually perfect for just having on a tray in my bedside drawer so that when I awake in the mornings I can just reach over, have myself four lines and get motivated enough to get the fuck up out of the nest to leave resumes around the city. I'm thinking waiting.


EDIT 1: Absolutely goofing material. Since there were two rocks, upon melting them they liquified into a lot more than I expected they would so I wont be smoking all this tonight (such is the intent anyway...as always), so I'll have much better idea after I smoke more tomorrow morning when the diazepam arent in my system. They may still be in my system (forget the half-life, goofing too hard to flick between tabs etc) but I'll give a better report then.

 

[zaramorf]

It's one of many heroin myths that it shortens life, eireann. Pharmaceutical users live as long as anyone else. It's the impurities and the lifestyle that cause the damage and criminalisation is responsible for both. Without the Drug Laws, there would be no 'heroin problem'.

Drug users are the most persecuted minority in Britain today. It's all so needless and users simply do not deserve such treatment. If they commit crimes under the influence, it's covered elsewhere in criminal law. The Drug Laws are a thought-police abomination and nonsense such as affects eireann is publicised as 'fact' to justify their enforcement. The important fact is the Drug Laws are very bad for the nation's health. Users are obliged to buy adulterated product while the propaganda serves to encourage those who like to hurt anyone different to themselves and makes otherwise decent citizens scared and even a little nuts. At long last, there are calls for reform and reason and a Commons sub-committee is now looking into drug policy. Add your voice where you can and demand an end this nasty con.

Drugs were found in an intercepted letter to prison, cazamac, with your fingerprints on the letter? What about the envelope? Did you hear about it at the time? I'd imagine someone was wondering what happened to their parcel, at least. Is there reasonable doubt about your culpability? I'm sure there will be. Hope you can score, today should be ok for a Tuesday test. Feel for Kat, counting down - like you say the waiting is the worst part, the worst they can do to you is nothing compared to what you can do to yourself.

My view exactly Charlie, they= (the docs, cpn, d&a missuse peeps) they kbnow this, but will they hekp, no, because its all about bums on seats.. and they hate people like yourself, who comes across as extremely intelligent, and knows the TRUTH

@ everyone... i'm sure things will get better soon, its slowly getting better all the time.. so fingers X as i always say..

@Katt..just wanted to say good luck hunni.. i am "only just" keeping intouch and always trying to keep up with the news

 

[33Hz]

So I finally got round to doing 10mg of Diamorphine hydrochloride on Saturday! Completely floored me for a good 30 minutes and after that I could stand but doing so made me feel dizzy as fuck so I had to lay back down again pretty quickly. Never iv'd anything before so I was blown away by the intensity and quickness of the onset. I've tried morphine, tramadol, DHC, codeine, and dextropropoxyphene before but they don't even come close to the euphoria I felt on it. One of my mates filmed the first 5 mins on his camera phone and I was trying to tell him how amazing it felt which just came out as an incoherent mess. The first time I watched it back I was loling hard, but I also had a massive urge to do it again as well. Sort of like a mild flashback to how it felt.

Has anyone combined heroin with MDAI before? I still have 15mg left and have a feeling it would go amazingly well together.

Oh yeah, is there anything that can be done about the nausea that comes after the initial rush, or does it come with the territory?

 

[4x4ledbury]

O
Sad to hear you having a bad time of it kat i kinda know how u feel at the mo you know my ex missus got 2 years for social supply but she got oon fine inside and if it cane to the worst im sure you would but here is hoping you beat the system and our scottish freind you are right something sounds fishy abt that intercepted letter surely you would find out earlier than 5 months any way what has happened to the heroin trade it is like the building industry dead like the rest of this country


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[endlessnameless]

Immodium, but the nausea is generally temporary. You shouldn't even get it next time - almost certainly not the time after. At least try to keep the IV an occasional occurrence but at best, knock it on the head. You've experienced it now, stick to smoking if you must because once you develop a habit on the needle, smoking wont cut it for you any more.

And for fuck sake don't mix MDAI with it either man. Have you even gone to the bother of doing any research on what effect its going to have on your body and/or brain or is your desire based merely upon you "feeling it would go amazingly well together"?

 

[blondin]

I'm amazed that anyone could be floored by 10mg of DM - Immodium wont help you need an antiemitic but puking is all part of the 'fun' in taking gear.

imo there's only 1 thing to mix with heroin and thats coke, however after 18m of that I had lost all my veins - was it worth it? yeaahh

Whats happened to Brimz - did he go on holiday?

 

[charlie clean]

10mg of diamorphine will knock most people sideways if it's the first time they've taken heroin. When I started, I used to snort half a 10mg 'jack' and bliss out for hours. Although I did find my tolerance stopped rising around the 150mg mark, it went up pretty steadily until then.