Regional Heroin Discussion v12 aka. Get yer junk out - Still no pricing please.

[strungout2010]

It doesn't take "balls " to pick up aneedle / whatever n do Heroin , to some addicts its instinctive , where as Using an Unlicensed Substance to Detox is not something that is instinctive.

I'm still curios though , especially what the relapse rates are after Ibogaine treatment , getting clean is nowhere near as hard as staying clean as u probably know.

Brimz mate that is exactly how I see it , getting clean is very easy. It's staying clean that's so hard.
The last rehab detox I did was a subutex one , and it was a walk in the park. So easy In fact that I talked myself into a relapse, because I told myself I can quit when ever I want now......
Hasn't quite worked out like that though.

 

[jspun]

Xwitch- i don't know the immigration laws with a record- I know Canada is very strict. There are ways of immigrating (like via mexico) but once here, no one will harrass you. Trip2moon- thanks for uncovering the truth- we have to identify the problem before we can have a solution/concious change. I think certain drugs like E and acid bring different people together.

Wevil

I wanted to reply to you earlier about California, that was always my retirement dream of emigrating there as an old man, growing weed and travelling about in a motorbike and sidecar with an old cat happily sitting in the sidecar wearing a red bandana.

Its a good state to retire to. You can grow quazilegal (if the feeds don't bust you). Your plan sounds good. But you don't have to grow- in LA, until recently they had more dispensaries than starbucks. MD evaluations go for 20-60 bucks in Venice Beach. The motorbike and sidecar sounds a bit ecsentric but this is an ecentric state- but its borke. My mother in Law and fiancee (ex husbband getting back) are both into medical MJ. She is from NJ and he from the Chicago area and when she was talking she said we gotta keep our voices done. I told her your in california, nobodies gives a shit about alittle refer.

We can get Iboagaine Tx in TJ, Brimz, but its $4,000, usually unpleasant, long lasting, but it resents your receptors. i would be hesitant to go to mex for any kind of treatment- trust me. but its promising, their is a risk for death, especially with liver disease, and I've heard success stories and failures. Usually the people that succeed get into some kind of program for aftercare or a 12 step group. I know, it is exciting, though.

Runctions: I know its been a dream to move to London, but i know you would love San Francisco- a very progressive city. (forget baywatch and southern California.) The people up there are as different as the Ulster catholics and English. Or maybe an Urbanized, cosmopolitan, worldly version of cardiff is a better analogy. The Punk scene endures!

 

[trip2themoon]

HIV transmission:

About 9 months ago I bought a 110ml bottle of meth' from a guy who admitted to a mate of mine that he'd contacted HIV. Another mate of mine recommended that I never buy that meth' again as out of spite he could put a droplet of his blood in to the bottle. Is it possible to contract HIV from swallowing a tiny drop of infected blood?

On topic: Still nice in Paisley, had a tasty score's worth this morning that I got from my mate. He picked up a quarter last night and was told there is still plenty of it.

 

[Effex26]

Heya, havent posted in a long while here but got quite a shock today and wondering what the hell happened...
So got two different types of gear last night, one bag from my usual fella but another from the not usual because i knew the usual stuff was not the best. Had a smoke of both and didnt get a nod but felt good enough going to sleep last night.
Woke up this morning with a really dry mouth and unquenchable thirst but ok otherwise, got on the bus to go to work about 7am and as the bus kept going, i felt worse and worse. Bad cramps in my stomach, the feeling I needed to go to the toilet, nausea and dizziness - thought I was going to collapse. Tried to stay on bus and hope it passed but it got worse and worse, finally got off and went to a garage toilet, could hardly walk at this stage and felt I was going to die! Panic had really set in and none of this was passing. Stuck in the toilet on my own thinking i was dying, ended ringing an ambulance for myself. Could hardly talk to yer man but they managed to find me. Started feeling bit better and then another wave of horrible cramps hit me in the ambulance on the way. I told them I was an addict... to be fair they treated me fine and left me into A&E. Felt much better then have felt prett muchn fine for the rest of the day. They did blood tests and xray etc but found nothing of course. They just said it was probably whatever I took last night.
So does this sound like a bad batch - maybe mixed with something? I rang my usual fella and he said no one else had complained. Not getting anything tonight.. too freaked out that it might happen again. But I know I wont last much longer then a night. Dreading bus journey in the morning...
Whole family ended up coming to see me, felt so bad but they were pretty cool with the whole thing thank god.
Has anything like this happened to anyone else or any ideas?

 

[griffin79]

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-258037-1245-kilograms--of-heroin-seized.html

 

[Tryptamite]

I have been trying my best to keep away and stick to my methadone taper. But my one recent "slip" and previous experience says to me there is good gear available in Dublin. These are south city centre and south city connects.

Also happened upon some oxycodone hcl, Oxynorm. Pity they were 5mg capsules. Still, IR though, so not useless by a long shot.

 

[charlie clean]

HIV transmission:

About 9 months ago I bought a 110ml bottle of meth' from a guy who admitted to a mate of mine that he'd contacted HIV. Another mate of mine recommended that I never buy that meth' again as out of spite he could put a droplet of his blood in to the bottle. Is it possible to contract HIV from swallowing a tiny drop of infected blood?
.

The odds against are in the hundreds but I'd have a blood test anyway. If this guy really deliberately bled into meth he was selling, he'd face a long prison sentence were the law to be involved. I'd advise someone has a quiet word with him, perhaps down a dark alley, before he does infect someone.

I just noticed the word 'could'. Anyone 'could' put poison into your tea. Perhaps you've a very prejudiced mate. HIV victims deserve sympathy, not smears and ostracisation.

 

[monstanoodle]

@ Monsta The gear I'm getting is pritty much the same mate , I have to smoke at least half a G, to get stoned.
It looks , taste , runs and smells like it should but its still not quite right. It just don't hold me like gear used to.
IDK Mayby this is as good as it gets now.
But it's really starting to do my canister in. At £XX a 1/8 more then last year , I'm gettin pritty fucked off all I end up doin is drinkin more.

Yes that sounds very similar - Runs well but with a slight red tinge, smells nice, smokes well but just doesn't pack the proverbial punch.
I'm thinking it's alright-stuff mixed with some of the bashed-up-a-bit stuff perhaps: A good way to get rid of unwanted product
It should get better when this bash has all gone (assuming they don't create more... not hopeful though).

 

[brimz]

HIV transmission:

About 9 months ago I bought a 110ml bottle of meth' from a guy who admitted to a mate of mine that he'd contacted HIV. Another mate of mine recommended that I never buy that meth' again as out of spite he could put a droplet of his blood in to the bottle. Is it possible to contract HIV from swallowing a tiny drop of infected blood?

On topic: Still nice in Paisley, had a tasty score's worth this morning that I got from my mate. He picked up a quarter last night and was told there is still plenty of it.

Thats a shit situation , maybe you should look in2 getting your own Methadone script .

 

[jspun]

Trip2the moon

HIV transmission:

About 9 months ago I bought a 110ml bottle of meth' from a guy who admitted to a mate of mine that he'd contacted HIV. Another mate of mine recommended that I never buy that meth' again as out of spite he could put a droplet of his blood in to the bottle. Is it possible to contract HIV from swallowing a tiny drop of infected blood?

On topic: Still nice in Paisley, had a tasty score's worth this morning that I got from my mate. He picked up a quarter last night and was told there is still plenty of it.

The chance of getting infected from his blood is remote- you see HIV is a rather fragile retrovirus- unless the blood is fresh and you have open sores in your mouth- even then the chance is remote. Now Hep C is more robust but requires blood-blood, not blood to stomach (the low ph of the stomach kills alot).

But if your worried heat the methadone alittle- don't let in boil. That should denature the HIV capsid, glycoproteins, ect...but i am out of my depth, my Virology is rusty- Advanced Drug Discussion would be a more appropriate place to post this question.

But I would not be concerned by this mode of transmission. Sharing needles, unprotected sex. different story. You probaly won't catch hep C from drinking unless a perfect storm of perfect temp and acidity of the solution and open mouth sores theoretically (again it is alittle more robust)- but unlikely.
I'd drink the juice if it was me- I come into contact with real killer Germs- resistant bacteria or fungal infections (like nasty c-diff, MRSA, VRE ESBL)- that kind of shit contaminating your juice would ruin your day- even then being immunocompromised plays a major factor whether or not you develop any type of patholgy.

I think your issues' cool to use amigo.

 

[jspun]

Effex26

Heya, havent posted in a long while here but got quite a shock today and wondering what the hell happened...
So got two different types of gear last night, one bag from my usual fella but another from the not usual because i knew the usual stuff was not the best. Had a smoke of both and didnt get a nod but felt good enough going to sleep last night.
Woke up this morning with a really dry mouth and unquenchable thirst but ok otherwise, got on the bus to go to work about 7am and as the bus kept going, i felt worse and worse. Bad cramps in my stomach, the feeling I needed to go to the toilet, nausea and dizziness - thought I was going to collapse. Tried to stay on bus and hope it passed but it got worse and worse, finally got off and went to a garage toilet, could hardly walk at this stage and felt I was going to die! Panic had really set in and none of this was passing. Stuck in the toilet on my own thinking i was dying, ended ringing an ambulance for myself. Could hardly talk to yer man but they managed to find me. Started feeling bit better and then another wave of horrible cramps hit me in the ambulance on the way. I told them I was an addict... to be fair they treated me fine and left me into A&E. Felt much better then have felt prett muchn fine for the rest of the day. They did blood tests and xray etc but found nothing of course. They just said it was probably whatever I took last night.

I aint no doctor, but I would put my money on either a viral gastroenteritis or bacterial gastroenteritis, the latter caused by something you ate, the former, highly virulent (its been known to ruin people cruises- the norvirus spreads like fire in an enclosed space). Your symptoms are consistent with dehydration and electrolyte imbalances. You needed hydration. Dysentery type symptoms and nausea- point is, you can loose hydration and electrolytes quick- the later can wreck havock on your body. Next time, take 100 mg loperamide with lots of water, maybe pedialyte (though that shouldn't be necesaary when the loose stools are corrected- I've seen lots of people hospitalized for 2-3 days of gastroenteritis- young people too, though mostly old. I had similar symptoms recently and i took extra bupe- i was having GI cramps and more suprisingly- severe leg cramps, dry mouth, (electrolytes probaly f-uped), classic dehydration, too- the symptoms resolved after the appropriate symptoms. If symptoms persist get screened for c-diff as treatment with antidiarreals can cause bowel damage- that would require a coarse of flagyl (don't know the generic name in the UK).
As for whatever you took last night- they were probaly wrong- but such advice makes a good deterent.

 

[Effex26]

@jspun

Just wrote a reply, clicked post but disappeared grr..
Anyway thanks a mill for your reply. You may not be a doctor but fuck me, you sound like you know what your talking about. I have had trouble with my bowel pretty much most of my life so you might be on to something with your theory.
Anyway don't trust doctors for shite so not taking what they say as gospel. As for deterring me from gear, didnt even last long
Thanks again for your great reply, gave me something to look into anyway

 

[ructions]

Hi All I have been keeping my head down a bit after pouring my whole life story out on the thread, i felt a bit mortified after that. But i'm back to my old self now & i just want to say thank~you for all the kind posts & P.M's, you really are a great bunch of people who i consider good friends! My friends on Bluelight know MUCH more about me then my friends outside Bluelight!!

So the up~date in Dublin is pretty much the same old story, i went on a bit of a session for the last week, for the first time since the start of the drought i have scored every day! I had got a few texts to say that the proper stuff was back, so through-out the week i scored in 5 different parts of Dublin. But in my opinion the gear is not back to normal yet, its all still fairly weak! Although the last place where i scored in South Dublin i noticed a slight improvement, it was the only source that i went back to to get more of! But the gear is still not as strong as it should be!!!

Some of the gear i was getting sounds exactly the same as the gear that you were getting Effex26, just like you described there was no real nod or anything off it but there was the kind'a nice feeling with it, although thankfully i didn't end up as sick as you! Are you ok? That must have been very frightening for you having to call an ambulance for your self!! I really hope your feeling better now?! But yeah i was getting what sounds like the very same gear as you had, its practically the same gear that is available everywhere in Dublin. I have to laugh at some of the bullshit that some of the dealers come out with!!! Stuff like "i have the best gear in Dublin at the moment, even the dealers are buying their own gear off me, they sell off the bash gear that to the punters & then come up to me to score the real deal" & i'm just thinking yeah what-ever, just give me the bags & get the fuck out of the car!! Coz i know before i even open the bag that its the same old gear that Dublin is flooded with! Worse fool me for scoring it! But i just felt like letting my hair down a bit this week!!!

One thing that i will say about the gear thats around is that i haven't needed to take my methadone at all this week, even though there isn't much of a buzz off the gear it still holds me fairly well, in fact better then the methadone! I'm totally convinced that i've built up a tolerance against my methadone, the 60mls is just not holding me anymore. I have done a little bit of research on this & it seems that just the way our bodies build up a tolerance against heroin that makes us need to use more & more heroin, it seems that our bodies can build up a tolerance against methadone that leaves is needing more! Apparently it takes much longer to build up a tolerance to methadone, its something to do with the fact that it works in your body for up to 36 hours. All i know that over the last 2 or 3 months the 60mls isn't holding me, i have awful night sweats & nightmares, & during the day in work i'm burning up with the heat, with sweat running down my back & the next minute i'm freezing cold, you know when you feel as though your actual bones are frozen with the cold? I also get all the yawning & sneezing ect, i'm worried that people in work are gonna sus it out! But my problem is that i don't want to up my dose of methadone! This is nuts, i never knew that i could build up a tolerance to methadone, i thought i could get stable & then start dropping it, i didn't think it would go the other way!!!! 8(

But at least i have given my body a rest from methadone this week, so maybe it will do a better job when i start using it again this week. I gonna stop scoring, i have spent a small fortune on gear this week, i have even spent the rent money on gear, its amazing how quickly you can slip back into daily using again & all the things that come along with it! Its such a lovely feeling coming home from work knowing that there is a tray there waiting for me! Pity it wasn't proper strong gear! Although if it was the good stuff then it wouldn't be so easy to stop using!

I really enjoyed the documentary that Father Ted posted about Ibogaine i had heard about it before but it was great to see someone actually take it, it was amazing to see the guy David that made the film take the Ibogaine & then two days later he had no withdrawals from the Methadone after 20 years of using!!! Great documentary, anyone who hasn't seen it should stick it on & watch it.

Jspun San Fransisco sounds like a great place & its deffo on my list of things to do! The only thing that worries me is how customs would react if they saw my Methadone? I suppose there isn't much that they could do, but i'm sure they would tear my luggage apart just for good measure!! But i really do hope to get to San Fran some day!!

So thats all folks! I'm gonna finish off this tray & go to bed, the stuff i'm smoking to~night is the best that i have gotten so far this week, but its still pretty much just drought quality gear! Things ain't back to normal yet! What I want is the proper strong gear that will hit me with such a strong wave that it actually makes me get sick! I know that probably sounds disgusting, but i'm sure most of you know what i mean!

 

[monstanoodle]

HIV transmission:

About 9 months ago I bought a 110ml bottle of meth' from a guy who admitted to a mate of mine that he'd contacted HIV. Another mate of mine recommended that I never buy that meth' again as out of spite he could put a droplet of his blood in to the bottle. Is it possible to contract HIV from swallowing a tiny drop of infected blood?

On topic: Still nice in Paisley, had a tasty score's worth this morning that I got from my mate. He picked up a quarter last night and was told there is still plenty of it.

You will likely want to take a look at this section here.
From what I've read, it's very unlikely to end up positive via oral means, but if you were to have a small cut in your mouth and the blood were to get into that cut then yes - You could end up contracting HIV.

To be honest mate I really, really wouldn't roll the proverbial dice in this instance

 

[Myshkin]

One of the best kisses I've ever had was with a girl with HIV.

It had been on the cards for years, then one day we just let it out and didn't stop. More intense than any sex could hope to be.

We just knew what we were doing and I didn't give a fuck about her disease. It was like a teenage kiss; all that voodoo that makes you temporarily take leave of your senses. All of it.

But yeah, risks are risks. Memories are golden.

Take care.

 

[strungout2010]

My mrs , went and picked up when I was out working yesterday, and I get a phone call from her, now she knows never to bother me at work unless , the house is on fire , or there's somthing wrong with her or my little"en, so I'm half expecting some bit of bad news.
Anyway it turns out the gear she got was making her gag ( always a good sign)she's very fussy and has cunted off nearly every bit we've had lately. This she told me was proper old school.
Got myself home abit liveo , and it really is very good.
Got myself straight back at the other fella for Q. Happy days !

 

[trip2themoon]

Thats a shit situation , maybe you should look in2 getting your own Methadone script .

I have an appointment with my doctor this Wednesday. I put my piss sample in 2 Mondays ago and was supposed to go see her last Wednesday. She called me on Tuesday evening to say that the drug councillor wouldn't be available for another week so my appointment was postponed for a week. Yeah don't mind me doc, I'll just continue to break the law for an extra week.

 

[ructions]

I'm just after scoring over in South Dublin. Its still not great gear but its a bit of an improvement. The guy i got i off says he got a tester of some really good stuff! & he said he should have it by next weekend!!!

So i wonder is this new batch gonna really be Proper heroin, or just more drought quality gear? Um..... we'll see!!! Could things be really starting to improve in Dublin??? What i got to-night is a lot better then some of the crap around, but its still not proper gear! Fingers crossed for next weekend, lets just hope that its not more Bullshit!!! 8)


EDIT.............. Its a few hours later & i have just finished smoking two trays, each tray had about 0.3 of gear onn it. Yeah there deffo is an improvement!!! Its not back to the way it should be, however there is a bit of an auld nod going on here!!! I just had to write a post on Bluelight while nodding, coz for months i have been on Bluelight completely noddless!!! So i had to write a semi~stoned post!!

But there still isn't any proper Proper gear available!!! After all these months my tolerance must be right down, so if/when i get proper proper gear i should be completely wasted!!! i'm hoping it will be like when i first started using gear!!! I know itts not likely to be as good as the first time, but hopefully it won''t be too far off!!!

As i said the gear i got to-night is not fantastic, but compared to some of the crap i've had over the last few months this is an improvement! Or maybe i'm just getting used to the rubbish gear? No, it is a bit better!!! I also have a nice stock pile of Methadone from the last week, coz even though the gear isn't of pre-drought quality it still holds me very well, so i have saved up all my methadone!!! YAY!!!

I took last week off work, but i have to go back in tomorrow, so its back to reality for me! It was great having the week off to go on a session, but i'm dreading going back in tomorrow!!! Thats the thing about taking a break from work, it makes it even harder to get back into the swing of things, it was great been a lazy git all last week, i really enjoyed having a smoke while watching Dole T.V!! I'll go back on my Methadone tomorrow for work, i'll just get the head down & get on with it!!!

Nitey-nite to all on Bluelight!! Talk to yous all tomorrow!!! Hopefully there will be some proper good gear in Dublin by next weekend?!

 

[jspun]

Ruction

Jspun San Fransisco sounds like a great place & its deffo on my list of things to do! The only thing that worries me is how customs would react if they saw my Methadone? I suppose there isn't much that they could do, but i'm sure they would tear my luggage apart just for good measure!! But i really do hope to get to San Fran some day!!

That would be cool as hell and i don't know what the law is regarding med methadone importation- I guess that would be a question for the US consulate or embassy in Dublin.

When I was gonna go to Greece for my cousin's wedding (and my parents were gonna front the money), but I was on MMT and the USA didn't belong to the schengen convention- so i was shit out of luck. I would have to be accepted by one of 2 clinics (the one in Athens, Thesalonica didn't accept foreign patients). But my prediction was that I would show up, go to the clinic, they would have lost my paperwork because everyone on the staff would pretent they didn't know English, ect...I had problems "courtesy dosing" within the state, I didn't want to mess with Greek- the Clinic back then would extend me 6 week supply but outside of maintenance, methadone wasn't used, so my chances for getting f-ed by imporation charges was to great to gamble.

I would imagine, US Customs wouldn't care so long as you had a letter from your doctor. But with the exception of canada, Americans have trouble importing controlled subtances, with or without an Rx. But were talking 3rd world countries- they might be more receptive to a letter from an Irsh Physician.

Hopefully we will visit the EU and venture outside Greece- but it'll be a few years- don't have the $$$ yet.


Glad to hear your situ is improving.

We got medical cannabis here- Fuckin brilliant as I found out yesterday. My Father in law just moved here and was like a kid in a candy store- got ahold of brilliant nugs and the best hash I've come across since 97 (which was being sent to my friend by her friend in the dam'- Morrocan 000- this put that to shame- had a piney smell to it.

Cannabis, yea, all drug prohibition is so marronic, such a violation of basic human rights and liberties.

Why the fuck we letting the heat, the unprincipaled politicians get away with it?

 

[jspun]

I'm gonna get on one of my political rants. You'dd think that after Vietnam, that the USA (and its allies) would stay out of wars like Irag, Iran, and the 3 other wars the USA is involved in (Libyia, Yemen, probaly Somalia). But we haven't. And more fundamentally, we haven't learned from 100 years of failure in the drug war, actaully manged to recruit earstwhile unwhilling allies like the UK, Eire, Germany, ect...

Its time to take in the streets. We've got the Arab spring, who would have thought? And we have the truth on our side. But 100 years of programing has left alot of our countrymen, on both sides of the Atlantic, and the Pacific, ect...brainwashed and seeing this war without of end, were the end users are the ultimate causulties from colateral damaged. The people of London and other parts of Europe have stood up for their rights. So have the People of Wisconsin in these Apathetic States of America. People in Mexico and other states are sick of having family member killed and tortured, kidnapped, others caught in crossfire (more have died in Mexico in the selective drug war that the agregate of Iraq).

So I will post stuff from radio screw prohibition on thsi continental forum and others. You are all more open minded than you comrades in other parts of the globe, Aus included. Our movement will start small, and it might take generations but we will prevail if with start uniting.

Some vietnam war youtube mix: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnLrmboOYE&feature=related

This song documents what happened at Kent State Ohio, 1970. Same kinda of shit a syria, Bahrain, Egypt, Libyia, ect...expcept there was a public outcry. In the USA peaceful drug addicts are having their homes kicked in (some innocent- with dubious Evidence). This replays itself around our own. (Is the UK and The Republic different?) State's got its mandate from socially approved discrimination. Anyway, this song gives me goosebumps. If the Canadians in Vancouver, BC can do it, band together and start a users union, so can the rest of us apathetics!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI7-m919ynU

Thus ends my political rant.