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[hooks]

I scored last night and it was better quality, thank fuck! From my current main dealer in N Brum. I got a nice nod from it and I'd say I had about .3 - .4g. Still pricey tho, £50 for .6. It's been so long since I had proper stuff that I'm still a bit battered now, pinned eyes and all! Nice, lets just hope it stays for a while. The way I see it, if Ireland's got decent then we shud be ok!

 

[Tryptamite]

Man in Dublin who had good has now got rubbish. I suspect it is this "good bash" as ructions called it. honestly, far better stone from 100 extra mls of meth (Im on 50ml a day), and my shot had 30mg flurazepam (dalmane) in it as well!!!

Have lots of different numbers to try out which are meant to be bang on, but they,re looking 40-50e for a bag. .3 if lucky.

have one more for 30e which i might try next week if i have the money. will report back here if I do.

 

[igloo600]

Hi folks,
Everytime i get some time to come on here, i am catching up on posts, but still have a few more to read (about 100) so just a quick hello, and update:

Ive been keeping to same man now for weeks, as his was tested at 12%, not amazing, but has H in it at least, but also tried somebody else last night, as reports coming in from all over the city that its getting loads better, the stuff i tried last night wasn't as good as mu usual, but a lot better then it was back when it was good bash, I was gouching last night on .3
Im now off to try someones in the family, my bf's side of the family, as he has got intouch this morning, and said its lovely, last time i had off him was about 6 months ago, it was off a turkish lad, it was tested at 78% (that was last june) so i will be back with a report on that front, obviously its not going to be fire, but reports im getting are sounding very promising... saying that at least i have my main man that has had the 12% for a few weeks now, and its consistant...its cut with manitol, has that glow to it (orange like colour) and when you open the tube, it has that familiar smell..(it comes from London, and goes through one hand)
Well here goes, off to try the one from the family...! bbl
will catch up with posts soon as would like to know how things are around blighty..x

Where/how are u getting it or able to test it??

 

[kkattastic]

Jesus, 180ml? I hope that holds you! On day 1 I'm normally ok with about 70ml. It does get easier to reduce on days 2-4 tho.

I take the large dose at first to stop the cravings
after a few days it builds up in your system so you still won't be craving

 

[scouse66]

Yup, when I've tried to abstain before, Ill be good for ages, do a bit then be pissed off at myself for doing it around my family or something, then think fuck it, Ill just finish off this gram.... Then I think well I only have enough for a couple of lines out of this gram so Ill get another bag and get high one more time, then I try and stop and then comes the WD so another bag is needed. and round and round it goes....

Sounds like you really want to make a go of it, so be strong, and if you do slip, just remember its a one off, it's just one day, not the rest of your life.

And it seems like there is a good bunch of people on here now, so hope you stick around, even though its words on a screen, I think these drought threads have really helped a lot of people.

Im going away now for work until saturday so I hope by the time Im back there might be some more round my way. My boy is off again and one of the bash sellers earlier said "its nearly as good as the last lot". His last lot didnt have any fucking smack in it at all. I hate bash pushers.

I hear yer bud, your life is like a replica of mine in some ways (as in most others here) Those WDs even the first few hours are like a million reasons to score against just a single thought of staying the course to the end of the WDs

As for bash pushers i would love to string em up bud. A H habit as we all know is expensive enough so having shits selling bash are the real scum mate. When you get back from work mate i hope you can get good food, my fingers are crossed for you.
Yes there is a lot of good people on here who have helped eachother and others through these times. I took 3 - 7.5 zopiclones last night and was going to take a few more blues but left em alone the zops done i went to bed and today is another clean day.:D
I do feel so f/king hypocritical though as i smoke weed, take sleepers, chew away on diaz and drink my green.8) But 1 thing at a time. The H is over for me, the green will be a while yet before i can say finally done with that and as for the tabs i KNOW i can bin them in the head when push comes to shove.

Any way bud i'm burning yer ears again take it easy and speak again soon.

 

[scouse66]

Easily done. I've seen people swig 250 mls + in one go. If someone has a mega-high tolerance it is totally possible.

You are correct mate, known a few peeps who swig 200+ mil daily and a couple 300mil. Nasty habit at that dose.
I have done to full blown cold turkeys of meth back in the days when jail gave you f/k all accept a shity 5 mil diaz on the first day in. F/king joke.

 

[scouse66]

on my 1st day off the gear i always do 180ml
the next day i do 120ml
then i try to cut by 20ml each day until i am at my prescribed dose-60ml

Nice to see some one else who knows the score with meth. It is not as hard as people think cutting down quick from a high dose over a short time until they reach a stable dose of as you say 60 mils. No one needs more than 60 mil a day in my eyes if their habit is just brown, or they have a 3 gramm habit a day before hand. But then 60 mil is a dose that can and should do most people.
I know i will be shot down, but i have been a meth user 20 years or more and my experiance makes me believe i am right more or less.

 

[scouse66]

Stabalized on methadone does not count as being using- thats just an effective way to get your life back on track and finaces square. My general productivity when I was on MMT was much better without dope and I had alot more extra chash, was more employable, ect...even if i was paying the clinic out of pocket, still saving loads. Keep staying strong and careful of the occasional taste on top of the methadone, that can lead you back to a double habit. I know from personal experience.

Thanx Jspun wise words, are sure your not one of those gurus who sits under a tree who has fasted for 20 years and the life force of mother earth keeps the ticker pumping along.

 

[head candy]

Nice to see some one else who knows the score with meth. It is not as hard as people think cutting down quick from a high dose over a short time until they reach a stable dose of as you say 60 mils. No one needs more than 60 mil a day in my eyes if their habit is just brown, or they have a 3 gramm habit a day before hand. But then 60 mil is a dose that can and should do most people.
I know i will be shot down, but i have been a meth user 20 years or more and my experiance makes me believe i am right more or less.

I think he means 70ml to zero that to me is to rapid only my opinion

 

[scouse66]

I think he means 70ml to zero that to me is to rapid only my opinion

My bad I agree going from 70 to zero over a short time is not do-able. Well it is but as we all know it will be suffering guarenteed.

 

[jspun]

scouse 66

Thanx Jspun wise words, are sure your not one of those gurus who sits under a tree who has fasted for 20 years and the life force of mother earth keeps the ticker pumping along.

LOL- far from it. I have been using gear since 95'. I got clean 98-2002 by doing a rapid detox with methadone: was young and very involved in NA in the San Francisco Bay area were I stayed clean. One drink on new Years made me want to get a taste of gear- and that started me on a 6 year run. I tried the rapid detox but this time unlike the last I didn't move. Managed to get on MMT in San Jose (they had very few spots- had to beg). I used on top of the juice my first year. They raised my dose to 135 mg- at about 100 mg I was still jonesing, even if it was blocking the euphoria. Finally my craving was halted at 135 mg. Moved to San Diego and started my new career- MMT with that last year clean from gear really helped.

But I started chiping again after 3 years. The reasons why I atribute to lack of a support group and continuing to drink- alcohol effects our judgement adversely. The chipping led to economic hardships, screwed up credit i had repaired, problems at work, ect...after more turbulance I finally stoped dope and then tappered off methadone- alcohol I quit work and took a few months going to meetings and staying with my parents. After a year of nothing but wellbutrin I'm on suboxone and benzos that are Rxed to me- I'm working on tappering. But I havent drank in 2.5 years and havent used any illegal drugs including cannabis. I attribute being able to do this to going to meetings- but then it takes work and I've been slacking lately.

So, this is my experience- 1.)MMT is very helpful getting our lives on track
2.) Having a support group or some kind of counseling improves your chances
3.) Cannabis helps some with the craving
4.) Alcohol is best avoided if used at all
5.) Eventually, after life has stabalized you can taper off the green- just make sure to do it slowly and take breaks when you feel the cravings comming back.
6.) Careful with the benzos- they have been therepeutic for many of us but they pose there own problems getting off.
7.) Incorporate nutrition, excercise, hobbies, ect into your overall plan. Not having to score gear will provide you with extra cash and time.
8.) If your thinking of using call someone- consider NA- you don't have to disclose anything, but then honesty is the best policy- so people know were your at- I've only told a few about my benzo and sub Rx- I am thinking of comming out of the closet especially when I taper the benzos.
9.) Avoid your old friends that used gear- hang out at thee clinic as little as possible.
10.) taper slowly- and slow down the taper- the last 20 mg are the hardest. I would consider no more than 2 mg/ week

Reward yourself and be easy on yourself.

 

[jspun]

[kkatQUOTE]I take the large dose at first to stop the cravings
after a few days it builds up in your system so you still won't be craving [/QUOTE]

I agree. with you KKat. When I was on MMT and chiping, I wouldn't use both typically on the same day and save my takehomes. When I would have to get clean and produce clean urine which i would store in my fridge or for some other reason I would do 120- 160 the first day (3-4 bottles), then 80 mg the second day, and then maybe 2 bottles on day 3, and then back to my normal dose- methadone takes a while to build up to therapeutic levels- but everybody is different so what works is what holds you and keeps you from chipping IMO. I would still feel weak, not right on those first few days still. But with methadone you get alot of variability with peoples response.

 

[scouse66]

scouse 66

LOL- far from it. I have been using gear since 95'. I got clean 98-2002 by doing a rapid detox with methadone: was young and very involved in NA in the San Francisco Bay area were I stayed clean. One drink on new Years made me want to get a taste of gear- and that started me on a 6 year run. I tried the rapid detox but this time unlike the last I didn't move. Managed to get on MMT in San Jose (they had very few spots- had to beg). I used on top of the juice my first year. They raised my dose to 135 mg- at about 100 mg I was still jonesing, even if it was blocking the euphoria. Finally my craving was halted at 135 mg. Moved to San Diego and started my new career- MMT with that last year clean from gear really helped.

But I started chiping again after 3 years. The reasons why I atribute to lack of a support group and continuing to drink- alcohol effects our judgement adversely. The chipping led to economic hardships, screwed up credit i had repaired, problems at work, ect...after more turbulance I finally stoped dope and then tappered off methadone- alcohol I quit work and took a few months going to meetings and staying with my parents. After a year of nothing but wellbutrin I'm on suboxone and benzos that are Rxed to me- I'm working on tappering. But I havent drank in 2.5 years and havent used any illegal drugs including cannabis. I attribute being able to do this to going to meetings- but then it takes work and I've been slacking lately.

So, this is my experience- 1.)MMT is very helpful getting our lives on track
2.) Having a support group or some kind of counseling improves your chances
3.) Cannabis helps some with the craving
4.) Alcohol is best avoided if used at all
5.) Eventually, after life has stabalized you can taper off the green- just make sure to do it slowly and take breaks when you feel the cravings comming back.
6.) Careful with the benzos- they have been therepeutic for many of us but they pose there own problems getting off.
7.) Incorporate nutrition, excercise, hobbies, ect into your overall plan. Not having to score gear will provide you with extra cash and time.
8.) If your thinking of using call someone- consider NA- you don't have to disclose anything, but then honesty is the best policy- so people know were your at- I've only told a few about my benzo and sub Rx- I am thinking of comming out of the closet especially when I taper the benzos.
9.) Avoid your old friends that used gear- hang out at thee clinic as little as possible.
10.) taper slowly- and slow down the taper- the last 20 mg are the hardest. I would consider no more than 2 mg/ week

Reward yourself and be easy on yourself.

Jesus dude you went through it a bit i must say. I also want to applaud you for trying everything possible under the circumstances of your life at the time(s). Nice to have family around you mate.
Staying of drink and other substances is a big big thumbs up dude. Lifes experiances can help many which is what i see you are trying to do in your own best ways.
Don't be to bad on yourself with the benzos mate, considering your past they are the least of your problems to of had to face. I know you can be 100% clean just by your persona from what you have said.
Here is wishing you a good future mate.

I myself am heroin clean since end of december last year. But i do take meth/diaz/weed/zopiclone8) I have cut my meth down and plan to carry on till i am done. As for the tabs i know i can leave em alone once i am meth clean. Nice to see others who can relate. take care bud.

 

[ructions]

scouse 66

LOL- far from it. I have been using gear since 95'. I got clean 98-2002 by doing a rapid detox with methadone: was young and very involved in NA in the San Francisco Bay area were I stayed clean. One drink on new Years made me want to get a taste of gear- and that started me on a 6 year run. I tried the rapid detox but this time unlike the last I didn't move. Managed to get on MMT in San Jose (they had very few spots- had to beg). I used on top of the juice my first year. They raised my dose to 135 mg- at about 100 mg I was still jonesing, even if it was blocking the euphoria. Finally my craving was halted at 135 mg. Moved to San Diego and started my new career- MMT with that last year clean from gear really helped.

But I started chiping again after 3 years. The reasons why I atribute to lack of a support group and continuing to drink- alcohol effects our judgement adversely. The chipping led to economic hardships, screwed up credit i had repaired, problems at work, ect...after more turbulance I finally stoped dope and then tappered off methadone- alcohol I quit work and took a few months going to meetings and staying with my parents. After a year of nothing but wellbutrin I'm on suboxone and benzos that are Rxed to me- I'm working on tappering. But I havent drank in 2.5 years and havent used any illegal drugs including cannabis. I attribute being able to do this to going to meetings- but then it takes work and I've been slacking lately.

So, this is my experience- 1.)MMT is very helpful getting our lives on track
2.) Having a support group or some kind of counseling improves your chances
3.) Cannabis helps some with the craving
4.) Alcohol is best avoided if used at all
5.) Eventually, after life has stabalized you can taper off the green- just make sure to do it slowly and take breaks when you feel the cravings comming back.
6.) Careful with the benzos- they have been therepeutic for many of us but they pose there own problems getting off.
7.) Incorporate nutrition, excercise, hobbies, ect into your overall plan. Not having to score gear will provide you with extra cash and time.
8.) If your thinking of using call someone- consider NA- you don't have to disclose anything, but then honesty is the best policy- so people know were your at- I've only told a few about my benzo and sub Rx- I am thinking of comming out of the closet especially when I taper the benzos.
9.) Avoid your old friends that used gear- hang out at thee clinic as little as possible.
10.) taper slowly- and slow down the taper- the last 20 mg are the hardest. I would consider no more than 2 mg/ week

Reward yourself and be easy on yourself.

Jspun this is an amazing post!!! You should write a book with all this stuff!! It means so much more when some one who has themselves been though addiction gives advice on it!!! There is nothing worse then having to listen to a Doctor or councilor give advice about things that they can't fully understand unless they have been through!! Doctors learn from text books, but someone like you Jspun learns from real life, what you say means so much more!!!

 

[greenfiend]

300ml!!!???????

Jesus christ that would last me nearly a fucking month!


I've never seen someone drink a MUG of meth before! I not trying to call you out or start an argument or anything but do you really do 300ml? I've never heard of anyone doing that much. Could it be watered down in any way maybe?

no I wish it was bullshit I get over 300ml a week myself and will neck that in one go and I literally do what you say stick it in a big glass and do it one go the only way I can keep it down. I have been on it non stop since I was 18 so my tolearnce has really built up. get a fucking good nod on it though

 

[greenfiend]

hiya l no people who buy the green to get acharge out of it 4ooml at a time and they dont touch the h any more ave always thought they wer fill of shite.does any 1 no if this is true do u get a charge frm taking loads of meth

yeah you do when I firsted started it would be proper noddin on 80ml but like anything your tolerance buids, i take 300ml every couple of days 50ml will hold me but like a typical junky that is never enough. problem is green is harder to get hold of than brown always has

 

[pinkpapaver]

nice one jspun , its encouraging to see this stuff here, there is light at the end of the tunnel!!!

know exactly what you mean. im in limboland at the moment, i dont like the green juice i theres such a fine line between feeling right, and feeling heavy tho, and the drink, deffo a bad idea, god yeah, nout wrong with social drinking, but drinking out of boredom is the worst. the weed does help when im working, as its a wind down thing, and it sometimes makes things look more interesting.

 

[irishdubliner]

jspun

hey jspun,
i just want to say something, i BLOODY have enjoyed reading your post! you are more than welcome to join us here and talk to us regarding gear! i must say u sound very intelligent person because u know what ur talking about in this post, lol forgive me if the spelling are wrong, its because im so HIGH now haha smokin proper h now anyway jspun please ingnore this wanker (bigots) i fucking HATE bigot people,seriously the do pisseed me off!!!! update news regarding h in dublin; the gears still going good, no problem scoring proper h and i was told the next batch will be even BETTER! me and my dealer loved the pinky beige rock with tiny black spot no.4 the best for smoking he said he gonna try get that 1 so wait and see! how bout u all irish getting on?? i see the british people rather are having horrible luck with the gear at the mo! i hope u will get the proper h sooner rather than LATER!!! i really feel for u all cos we all were expierencing the same for bleeding 3months lol!

 

[goaheadanjuna]

You are correct mate, known a few peeps who swig 200+ mil daily and a couple 300mil. Nasty habit at that dose.
I have done to full blown cold turkeys of meth back in the days when jail gave you f/k all accept a shity 5 mil diaz on the first day in. F/king joke.

easy peeps, your right bout jail back in the day, i remember getting thrown in belmarsh in 2000 with a teenth a day habbit on brown and w as well as 70ml of green, fuck me now that was a rattle, got fuck all except like you said m8, 5ml diazi, they were wankers sorry still are, at least now days you can get the green soon as you go in, result, glad people are getting ok now in most of the country, my main man came on this wk, and the gear is fucking lovely 9/10 pre drought ive been smashed and i love it, take care all, and to all that are getting off the ride, fair play to you, good luck be strong, and dont try and do any more than a day at a time, peace %)

 

[endlessnameless]

@jspun: Another outstanding post again bro, you've (almost) outdone yourself man. Keep'em coming man, you to me seem like someone who could author a very interesting biography.

Scored again from the main in D7 - had my 40mgs of valium, felt on top of the world, got a call from my main and decided to indulge (no money left for more and used all my lay until Saturday anyway) a cider, my bag and two joints.

I feel so fucking good...now for a splendid slumber. Did a lot of running around Dubland this evening...

Be good.