Regional Heroin Availability: v8

[monstanoodle]

So scored again today (well yesterday but for some reason my post didn't actually post and the page just stayed open... weird), got myself some white and brown.
The brown was OK, good size (prob close to 0.2 for a £10) and it did the job I wanted it to do (bring myself down from smoking rock)... still only a 4/10 maybe a 5/10 at a push.
The rock was fucking incredible (just like it was the last two days). The last two days I gave it a 9/10 but I can't do that today... Although it smokes perfectly and gives that amazing dopamine rush but I decided I wanted to shoot one of stones today and no matter what I did I just couldn't get the fucker in the pin. It solidified and blocked the pin (occasionally you get stone that does that, so I always test the a small bit of stone first before adding a decent amount of both stone and gear for a speedball). So today the stone is only getting, sadly, a 6/10.

I've been getting amazing rock for a long time also actually
No crackling (which means there's no Sodium Bicarb. in it) and it's as solid as Brighton Rock (the sweety sticks lol)
Lovely stuff, but far too lovely.... As moreish as pringles!

The gear I've been getting has been nice too Probably, very probably not top notch but definitely able to get a nod on if I've not used in a week and haven't been taking stupid amounts of Codeine.
Hopefully when I next score it'll be the same **Crosses fingiz**

p.s. Ch1na & thebigman - Please.... Leave it. I can't be arsed to go about deleting posts and you know my position on it all - Just avoid each other via the ignore function and don't speak of each other. Thankyou
I know you're trying Ch1na and I appreciate that, I would hope that you, thebigman, will do the same.

As much as I hate the acronym - PLUR Mutha Uckaz!

 

[maxalfie]

Eh? My point exactly!!! When i say 'good bash' as i explained earlier its bash that looks exactly like H, it runs perfect on the foil with a nice black shiny beetle & it leaves nice dark trails, but there is no taste off it & no buzz what so ever off it!!!! But it looks like a really good looking fake, but bash is bash, & its pure crap, so people should beware of it!! Its useless crap!!

So instead of going into all that detail every time that i write a post, as i have in the past, now i call it 'good bash' & most people that i talk to on here know what i mean. But once it has the word bash in it then it can be nothing else but useless bash!!! Bash, bash BASH!!!!

my point exactly,if it's not gear then why bother to differentiate between different types of bash. Does it really make a difference if it looks right or not. If it isn't what you paid for are you really going to think oh well at least it looks right.
Don't wish to have an argument about it just saying what I think.
As you can see I am new to Bluelight so forgive me for not having read your earlier posts or if I went against protocol.

 

[torbaybabe]

Hi everyone, things here still shit, its the same gear I spoke about last week everywhere, I'm sure its codine or DF's somehow made smokable. It hold you but you could smoke a K of it and not get a nod. So today I thought feck it I not wasting anymore cash on you, espesially after I found out that my main dealer has been charging £30 for a .4 when everyone else is doing it for £20. I know they nearly all get it from the same place so felt ripped off. So much for loyalty, she's obviously trying to make her money back from the drought but not at my expence. Any way my b/f found a web site that sells DF118 so we sent off for a couple of hundred and they arrived 2 days later in a brown envelope. Taken 4 40's this morning and they are doing the biz have to try and not be greedy but its so much cheaper than scoring shit gear! Don't want to get in trouble with the mods so I hope I haven't said too much

 

[kkattastic]

Hi everyone, things here still shit, its the same gear I spoke about last week everywhere, I'm sure its codine or DF's somehow made smokable. It hold you but you could smoke a K of it and not get a nod. So today I thought feck it I not wasting anymore cash on you, espesially after I found out that my main dealer has been charging £30 for a .4 when everyone else is doing it for £20. I know they nearly all get it from the same place so felt ripped off. So much for loyalty, she's obviously trying to make her money back from the drought but not at my expence. Any way my b/f found a web site that sells DF118 so we sent off for a couple of hundred and they arrived 2 days later in a brown envelope. Taken 4 40's this morning and they are doing the biz have to try and not be greedy but its so much cheaper than scoring shit gear! Don't want to get in trouble with the mods so I hope I haven't said too much

I am on day 1 of my return to the green
it's always the hardest day but i know i will feel batter for it
the gear i was buying was no better than the meth tbh

 

[hooks]

The gear I got yesterday was average at best, this was in N Brum. Have heard that there's summat decent floating about but I'm yet to see/taste it. What's the deal, are things going downhill again or what? Frigging drought, if things aren't back to normal by now and it's halfway thru Feb then things aint gonna get back to normal till the next harvest. Maybe never?? Jesus, what a wanky situation. Thats pretty much 4 months now! Spoke to a dealer last night and he said he wasn't paying £150 an 1/8th!! Jesus, that's bloody good if the gear's ok but for that price I'm guessing it's no good anyway. Tight git, if it is good then it'll fly out the door at £10 per point.

 

[pinkpapaver]

loada shite whether its bash, bashed, or 100%.


prefer thee crack

 

[alteknj]

I'm from the US, but I'm pretty interested in the global drug economy/market. I kept hearing about a drought in Europe, especially UK.. but when I read the UNODC's 2010 World Drug Report, it didn't mention anything about it. Opium production in Afghanistan has been pretty stable the last few years, still owns close to 90% of the world's heroin production, even with the war going on and eradication efforts. Heroin seizures have stayed pretty much average as well. So it really baffles me how there is a drought? And how bad is it? I have heard it has affected MUCH of Europe. But with the UK being number 1 consumer in West Europe, you still are getting over 40 metric tons of heroin trafficked into the country each year. That's 40,000 kilos a year. And that's pure. So multiply that number by 3 or 4, and it's reasonable to say there is the potential for 120,000 kilos a year just for the UK. It kind of baffles me.

I get Colombian heroin where I am at (NYC area) and they produce like less then 2% of the world's heroin. There is never a shortage of heroin here and the US is a pretty big market. I'm strictly talking about the eastern half of the country where the Colombian dope is.. everything else is run by Mexican cartels and they get black tar (Mexican heroin).

I get spoiled because NJ/NYC has the highest purity rates of heroin in the USA, but Europe consumes more heroin than us. And Afghan is supplying the majority of the world's heroin to you guys. It's got to be good stuff. You guys seem like you are flooded in heroin, or at least should be. What's the deal Europe?

 

[mashmetaller]

We're as baffled as you are. The rumors are that there are huge stashes (enough to last for years) in existence, but none of it seems to be coming through.

Seems a combination of poppy blight, floods in pakistan and other areas across the trafficing routes, a few big busts by law enforcement and some fucked up goings on in gang land that we probably know nothing about mean that none is getting through.

There IS heroin about if you know the right people, it's my peronal opinion though (and I have no evidence for this whatsoever) that the people who have the stuff have brought it over themselves from relatives in pakistan or somewhere as the organised gangs can't seem to get the big quantities they need to service their market. I think that the only stuff there is at the moment has come through up someones arse through an airport rather than the tradition smuggling in large quantities on container ships etc.

To give you an idea of how bad it is, I know people in several different cities who all have good contacts (organised gangs who typically you can call and meet within 15 mins on a usual day who have people working in shifts from around mid day until 3am) and NO one can get regualar decent gear. You might get lucky and get some good stuff for a day or two, but as soon as word spreads they will sell literally whatever they have at double to quadrouple the normal price, even if it is half the strenght of regualr gear. It is a DIRE situation, with no sign of imoproving any time soon.

There are only a few people in the country who seem not to have been effected, and they are so rare that on this very message board there have been huge arguments between people because it is SO bad that people don't believe the guys saying they can get good are telling the truth, as there is simply NO gear in certain places.

 

[hooks]

Is this still the case in the NL or across the rest of Europe? It looked like things were picking up about a month ago but that's all changed now, things are right shite again. I know of 1 person that's supposed to have decent stuff but I'm guessing that's shit too really. It's all bollocks.

 

[basketcase]

my point exactly,if it's not gear then why bother to differentiate between different types of bash. Does it really make a difference if it looks right or not. If it isn't what you paid for are you really going to think oh well at least it looks right.
Don't wish to have an argument about it just saying what I think.
As you can see I am new to Bluelight so forgive me for not having read your earlier posts or if I went against protocol.

i think what ructions is trying to say is that ppl need to be aware that there are different types of bash about and that's what this thread is for. to stop ppl from injecting or smoking crappy dodgy bash, whatever disguise it appears in. there was the bash doing the rounds a bit ago that was a light colour & fluffy texture, this generally blocked the pin, or burnt on the foil, or ran on the foil like water, tasted of all sorts of shit like TCP or didn't have no taste at all, we had this round our area back in november/december & was the 0% shit, totally no gear in it at all

now the twats have had time to 'improve' the bash, it looks like gear, some of it even tastes like gear, it runs like gear, so is called 'good' or 'clever' bash. there's nothing good or clever about it at all but it's just the name we give it to warn ppl that this is going about & ppl could be fooled by it. especially if it has a slight bit of gear in it, some might think: ah well it tastes like gear, runs like it & sometimes can even take your rattle away, some of it has been cut with something that takes away your WD's & doesn't have gear in it (fuck knows what it is) so maybe ppls minds can play tricks on them into thinking it's proper gear? idk

what we're trying to say is that ppl need to be aware of all the different types of bash doing the rounds, so we don't get ripped off. ppls expectations and tolerances have been lowered, so some could get confused over this 'good or clever bash' that does a good impression of gear. especially if you are on the juice, you wouldn't be able to tell whether it takes away your rattle or not unless you didn't take your juice for a day or so.

but i get what you mean, it's bash, bash shitty fkn bash, whichever way you look at it it's a sorry state of affairs. these bastards have so much of this shit to get rid of, & obv have too much time on their hands, so looks like they have come up with all sorts of bash concoctions to try & fool us, but they can all fuck off i hope this makes sense as it is all bloody confusing i know

 

[ructions]

my point exactly,if it's not gear then why bother to differentiate between different types of bash. Does it really make a difference if it looks right or not. If it isn't what you paid for are you really going to think oh well at least it looks right.
Don't wish to have an argument about it just saying what I think.
As you can see I am new to Bluelight so forgive me for not having read your earlier posts or if I went against protocol.

I think that the lovely Basketcase has explained it to you perfectly, i wasn't going to go through it all again with you.

We have all been on here talking about the different types of bash that we have been getting since Nov, back at the start people were getting crushed up biscuits in a little bag instead of gear, now the bash looks the real deal so people should beware of it & not buy it, that is what this thread is for!!

I hope that explains it to you, i often find it a good idea if i am not sure what people are talking about on here then i go back a few pages & i catch up with what is been said, that way we all understand each other better. Also there are a lot of different opinions on this thread. But its great to chat!!

@ Basket, how are you to day? Any word from Zara? I hope that she is ok? Hopefully she either has good gear or maybe she is trying to stay away from it all together for a while? I know in the past when i wanted to totally get H out of my head for a while i stayed away from B.L. & everything.

 

[basketcase]

I think that the lovely Basketcase has explained it to you perfectly, i wasn't going to go through it all again with you.

We have all been on here talking about the different types of bash that we have been getting since Nov, back at the start people were getting crushed up biscuits in a little bag instead of gear, now the bash looks the real deal so people should beware of it & not buy it, that is what this thread is for!!

I hope that explains it to you, i often find it a good idea if i am not sure what people are talking about on here then i go back a few pages & i catch up with what is been said, that way we all understand each other better. Also there are a lot of different opinions on this thread. But its great to chat!!

@ Basket, how are you to day? Any word from Zara? I hope that she is ok? Hopefully she either has good gear or maybe she is trying to stay away from it all together for a while? I know in the past when i wanted to totally get H out of my head for a while i stayed away from B.L. & everything.

aye i'm not so bad ructs love

no, i haven't heard anything from zara, i sent her pm and left a message post in the chat thread but no reply as yet, so i hope she's ok. hopefully she's got some good stuff, or is busy with other things or like you say, is trying to stay away for a bit?

maybe that's what i should do, as i'm trying to stay away from gear, but BL just keeps drawing me back in ..lol what can i say, i just like chatting away on here as i've met some brilliant ppl on here, yourself included :D
btw, is it me or has anyone else noticed that their number of posts has gone down. i'm sure i'm not dreaming i sure i had nearly 200 posts yesterday & it's gone down to about just over 100

 

[4x4ledbury]

situ still shit unless you are willing to pay through the nose like .2.75 of a g for 30 notes of decent. wont even try and score weight any more cause its always dissapointing it's getting worse not better. This is herefordshire and gloucestershire but there must be good gear up brum cause thats where the good stuff is i get but all in singles. Dont matter if you brought 100 cause they know it will sell no problem . Will the next harvest really restock the uk i hope so but i doubt it

 

[milky tears]

It's so weird, a month or two ago- everyone wanted to get down to Liverpool because "that's who's sitting on all the stockpilled stuff" This may have been the case in some very high up mans game that I know nothing about. Because, while all this Liverpool hype was being talked about everywhere- all our gear was STILL shite! (we're only 20 mins from LP and know lots of 'eds there) and none of the big time/long time 'eds from LP knew any different... What THEY'D all heard wwas that all the fire was being sat on in Manchester! Being either doled out in very small dribs and drabs, or danced on to fuck.

IT'S A MYSTERY (to me and anyone I know anyway!)

I got a few tings sent down from Portsmouth way a few days ago to see what it was like;- worse than our shite. Just thought I'd through that in there.

I can only comment on the Liverpool/Manchester and kind of Notts/Brum (but don't know many heads at all down there) scenes since the drought, and honestly think that (LP for sure, posibly Manc) ALL the swag I've had since this shit started- which is every day(!) hasn't come from more than about five or 6 sources. I can't be bothered going into look, taste, colour, consistency etc as it's been talked about to death on here. (And I may have rambled on a wee bit meself 8)) The multitudes and varying ammounts of bash are in my humble opinion the only difference between 95% of all our gear.



Something really does smell fishy in Denmark. (Did I get that right? Oh well) Obviously I wasnt my nice smack back, but, I fucking want to know what's going on!!!!

Why don't I know any dodgy army guys in Helmand to send me a letter or fifty!?

 

[blondin]

So scored again today (well yesterday but for some reason my post didn't actually post and the page just stayed open... weird), got myself some white and brown.
The brown was OK, good size (prob close to 0.2 for a £10) and it did the job I wanted it to do (bring myself down from smoking rock)... still only a 4/10 maybe a 5/10 at a push.
The rock was fucking incredible (just like it was the last two days). The last two days I gave it a 9/10 but I can't do that today... Although it smokes perfectly and gives that amazing dopamine rush but I decided I wanted to shoot one of stones today and no matter what I did I just couldn't get the fucker in the pin. It solidified and blocked the pin (occasionally you get stone that does that, so I always test the a small bit of stone first before adding a decent amount of both stone and gear for a speedball). So today the stone is only getting, sadly, a 6/10.

tpld u b4 mate you need to add alot more citric - up tp 50:50 or it just stays in a syupy mess.

 

[head candy]

i think what ructions is trying to say is that ppl need to be aware that there are different types of bash about and that's what this thread is for. to stop ppl from injecting or smoking crappy dodgy bash, whatever disguise it appears in. there was the bash doing the rounds a bit ago that was a light colour & fluffy texture, this generally blocked the pin, or burnt on the foil, or ran on the foil like water, tasted of all sorts of shit like TCP or didn't have no taste at all, we had this round our area back in november/december & was the 0% shit, totally no gear in it at all

now the twats have had time to 'improve' the bash, it looks like gear, some of it even tastes like gear, it runs like gear, so is called 'good' or 'clever' bash. there's nothing good or clever about it at all but it's just the name we give it to warn ppl that this is going about & ppl could be fooled by it. especially if it has a slight bit of gear in it, some might think: ah well it tastes like gear, runs like it & sometimes can even take your rattle away, some of it has been cut with something that takes away your WD's & doesn't have gear in it (fuck knows what it is) so maybe ppls minds can play tricks on them into thinking it's proper gear? idk

what we're trying to say is that ppl need to be aware of all the different types of bash doing the rounds, so we don't get ripped off. ppls expectations and tolerances have been lowered, so some could get confused over this 'good or clever bash' that does a good impression of gear. especially if you are on the juice, you wouldn't be able to tell whether it takes away your rattle or not unless you didn't take your juice for a day or so.

but i get what you mean, it's bash, bash shitty fkn bash, whichever way you look at it it's a sorry state of affairs. these bastards have so much of this shit to get rid of, & obv have too much time on their hands, so looks like they have come up with all sorts of bash concoctions to try & fool us, but they can all fuck off i hope this makes sense as it is all bloody confusing i know

spot on that's so true I went to collect some tickets today from a guy I know two peeps were smoking something on the foil no smell of gear in room they were saxing its the best they had in ages they gave me a taste that empty bash taste then I got a taste of tablets I don't think peeps know what gear is convincing themselfs its gear iam paying top money but its 7-10 so dealers selling .2 £10 must be shit in the areas I know iam paying over double what I was at start of drought

 

[alteknj]

We're as baffled as you are. The rumors are that there are huge stashes (enough to last for years) in existence, but none of it seems to be coming through.

Seems a combination of poppy blight, floods in pakistan and other areas across the trafficing routes, a few big busts by law enforcement and some fucked up goings on in gang land that we probably know nothing about mean that none is getting through.

There IS heroin about if you know the right people, it's my peronal opinion though (and I have no evidence for this whatsoever) that the people who have the stuff have brought it over themselves from relatives in pakistan or somewhere as the organised gangs can't seem to get the big quantities they need to service their market. I think that the only stuff there is at the moment has come through up someones arse through an airport rather than the tradition smuggling in large quantities on container ships etc.

To give you an idea of how bad it is, I know people in several different cities who all have good contacts (organised gangs who typically you can call and meet within 15 mins on a usual day who have people working in shifts from around mid day until 3am) and NO one can get regualar decent gear. You might get lucky and get some good stuff for a day or two, but as soon as word spreads they will sell literally whatever they have at double to quadrouple the normal price, even if it is half the strenght of regualr gear. It is a DIRE situation, with no sign of imoproving any time soon.

There are only a few people in the country who seem not to have been effected, and they are so rare that on this very message board there have been huge arguments between people because it is SO bad that people don't believe the guys saying they can get good are telling the truth, as there is simply NO gear in certain places.

Yea from reading this thread, it seems like you guys are going crazy and are in consensus. If were to go into the North American forum and say how all the heroin in New Jersey and NYC has dried up and whatever, I would get laughed out the thread. From what I read, there was a poppy blight in 2010 but it still didn't make enough of a dent in production and harvest to create a continent wide drought. Production is steady average and you know the Afghan's are sitting on a stockpile.

My guess is a couple recent busts breaking up a pretty big chunk of the Albanian mafia screwed you guys over. Besides what is coming into your country via ports (which oddly enough isn't as much as you think), the majority of heroin comes in couriers in small loads (1-2 kilos). The Albanian mafia had a big hand in trafficking routes over Turkey into Europe, so by breaking up the people that traffic the actual narcotics you can effectively combat it for a short while on a LE point of view. I'm willing to bet that Russia is not experiencing a drought and they consume 50% of Afghan heroin. That's also because Russia is easier to get to and with DIFFERENT trafficking routes from North of Afghanistan with DIFFERENT traffickers. Once you go West out of Iran into Turkey, it changes hands and that's usually where the Albanian's take over (majority) where they move it across into Europe (Italy, UK, Germany, Spain, etc). This is from what I read so I'm just throwing out a guess. Because obviously the amount of heroin produced in 2010 has been the same on average as the last couple years. No drastic change there. So where else to look? Then the who's. There haven't been any crazy multi thousand kilo busts. There's a power struggle in the organized crime syndicates that run the show. That's why you might be getting small amounts here and there, periods of dryness. Once someone consistent steps up and business resumes, the country will be flooded with heroin again. Just a thought.

How long has this been going on anyway?

 

[pinkpapaver]

oh mygod ye yanks are too fuckin loooooongggggggg. i vomitted over a yanks yella flares in trinity college circa 83. no racism meant,. but fuck me man, theres better things than fucking gear, much better things than gear, and ye boys have got the stuff man, so fuckin stiop buttin in man,just stop buttin in ya cunts!!!!. no offencev meant. pinky shouldnt drink man, pinky shouldnt drink!!!

 

[mashmetaller]

Yea from reading this thread, it seems like you guys are going crazy and are in consensus. If were to go into the North American forum and say how all the heroin in New Jersey and NYC has dried up and whatever, I would get laughed out the thread. From what I read, there was a poppy blight in 2010 but it still didn't make enough of a dent in production and harvest to create a continent wide drought. Production is steady average and you know the Afghan's are sitting on a stockpile.

My guess is a couple recent busts breaking up a pretty big chunk of the Albanian mafia screwed you guys over. Besides what is coming into your country via ports (which oddly enough isn't as much as you think), the majority of heroin comes in couriers in small loads (1-2 kilos). The Albanian mafia had a big hand in trafficking routes over Turkey into Europe, so by breaking up the people that traffic the actual narcotics you can effectively combat it for a short while on a LE point of view. I'm willing to bet that Russia is not experiencing a drought and they consume 50% of Afghan heroin. That's also because Russia is easier to get to and with DIFFERENT trafficking routes from North of Afghanistan with DIFFERENT traffickers. Once you go West out of Iran into Turkey, it changes hands and that's usually where the Albanian's take over (majority) where they move it across into Europe (Italy, UK, Germany, Spain, etc). This is from what I read so I'm just throwing out a guess. Because obviously the amount of heroin produced in 2010 has been the same on average as the last couple years. No drastic change there. So where else to look? Then the who's. There haven't been any crazy multi thousand kilo busts. There's a power struggle in the organized crime syndicates that run the show. That's why you might be getting small amounts here and there, periods of dryness. Once someone consistent steps up and business resumes, the country will be flooded with heroin again. Just a thought.

How long has this been going on anyway?

Yeah you may well have a point but I think the blight does have a fair amount to do with it. I can't remember the exact figures but it was something like 80 - 90 & of the harvest was fooked (maybe someone can give the exact published figure?). To be honest I think for it to be this bad and for this long its got to be a number of combined factors. Blight, floods, and weird stuff in the trafficers underworld means there's none about. The only stuff coming through is im sure the odd kilo as you say.

And it's been going on since end of october/beginning of november. Just look at the amount of people who have been in these threads that joined in november. Its crazy shit. ANY GANGSTERS OR TRAFFICERS READING THIS GET YOUR FUCKING ACT TOGETHER YOU CUNTS!

 

[4x4ledbury]

homebake heroin anyone '? realatively simple process from the net 1.5gs of codeine =.5 morphine/heroin base . how easy is codeine to get, easy but stuffed with paracetmol . i will never do it but fuckin pissed with never bein able to get drug of choice. not decent amounts any ways.