Regional Heroin Availability: v10

[Firedup2000]

Hey Griffin hows you?! Did you hear much about that drug bust in Limerick?! Do you reckon it was proper gear or was it bash? It sounded like a big enough bust!!

I reckon if it was decent gear seized in Limerick, it would be stepped on big time anyway. Pre drought gear would have addicts OD - ing all over the place.

The gear situation in north Dublin is still the same - Stepped on sh1t.
You're better off sticking with the juice and a few benzos and weed imo.

 

[ructions]

I reckon if it was decent gear seized in Limerick, it would be stepped on big time anyway. Pre drought gear would have addicts OD - ing all over the place.

The gear situation in north Dublin is still the same - Stepped on sh1t.
You're better off sticking with the juice and a few benzos and weed imo.

I haven't even tried to score in 5 weeks, but i was going to venture out to-day to see if things have improved any, i'm in North Dublin aswell. But maybe i shouldn't bother trying to score yet?

I'm really getting sick of this drought now!!

 

[kkattastic]

Brilliant, i'm gonna pick it up the next time i'm in town! Thanx!!

i've become a very lazy reader and d/l audio books instead now

 

[tillyisfast]

drought

welcome to bl tillyisfast, im not using this site long myself either. it is a good site mostly, but sadly there can be a lot of bitching + some times people throw there weight around a bit too much, but most of the time this is a good place were like minded people can meet up + chat. you should not call your self uneducated, your post was perfect, mine on the other hand can be very hard to read, i only learned to read + write late in life + im still learning. i aggree with all you said in your post. i live in dublin. there has been a drought here for 6 months. if i wanted i could go out now + score off 6 diffrent people but it would all be shite, the brown in dublin is so week that its just not worth buying. the problem is every one in dublin is buying it. they wont admit that its crap. they are either totaly desprate or just stupid, maybe a bit of both! i have been using for 18 years + i have never seen anything like this drought before in my life. i have seen people from dublin posting on here that they are score good brown. but i have to wonder, are they just happy with the shite just like everyone else is? the harvest started last month so there will have to be something good on the way soon. but i wish people would just keep it real + stop pretending that they are geting dynamite brown when there not, + for thoes who are, they are lucky as hell. its was nice to read ur post tillyisfast coz i feel the very same way as you do. i hope the bitching has not put you off this site coz there are some really sound people on here who feel the very same way as you do. all the bitching is the shame, im sure people reading it who are not heroin addicts must think we are a bunch of bitching bastards. which we are not. we are just a group of people that have being brought together by brown or the lack of it. i hope you stick around tillyiefast. i enjoyed your post. peace to all on bl.

Hi gizmo, thanks for the reply,i myself av been at for 17yrs so we av both done our apprenticeships eh!! lets hope things get better soon for all of us poor souls.

In the mean time i"m just thankful for the script i av, which is the only thing keeping me standing up. nothing else to say really at mo. Nice to av spoke to you, take care. Tillyisfast

 

[tillyisfast]

brimz

Nah that ain't cos your real thats cos your a dimlo.
And you ain't got any decent connects.

Alright there brimz, its "DINLO" not, "DIMLO" and your fully entiteld to write what you plz. your opinion about me is your right to reply, but its of no value to me at all.

So by all means call me all the names you like but i can get someone who you know from here to vouche for me and if i"m a DINLO (my words not your"s) or not, and if i know peeps or not. you are very lucky to av such a selection to choose from in your area as we av very very little and mostly crap.I av to travel at least 120 mile round trip just for half decent. Plz don"t think i"m mocking you as i"m not i don"t know ya, but you must be a handy fella to know. take it easy. Tillyisfast

 

[brimz]

Alright there brimz, its "DINLO" not, "DIMLO" and your fully entiteld to write what you plz. your opinion about me is your right to reply, but its of no value to me at all.

So by all means call me all the names you like but i can get someone who you know from here to vouche for me and if i"m a DINLO (my words not your"s) or not, and if i know peeps or not. you are very lucky to av such a selection to choose from in your area as we av very very little and mostly crap.I av to travel at least 120 mile round trip just for half decent. Plz don"t think i"m mocking you as i"m not i don"t know ya, but you must be a handy fella to know. take it easy. Tillyisfast

Here bud , start again yeah.
I found your post yesterday a tad out of arder n shortsighted n felt that you were havin a pop at me when u mentioned having a break as i was the last person in this thread 2 say that.

Dimlo - Is a Gypsy word for someone of limited inteligence it means a light that doesn't shine brightly hence the Dim part , i thought it was Dinlo as well but was corrected by a Traveller , Its one of those words that has kinda changed over the years but it ws originally Dimlo , i usually say Dinlo / Dimlo u get the jist.

When i first started posting on BL not even a year ago the last thing i wanted to do was offend like minded folk. But 4 whatever reason you went a bit Jonny Blaze.

I won't hold it against ya , so we'll start again yeah?

So you've been on the tackle for 17 years , around the same ammt. of time as me.
I had my 1st script (50ml injectable physeptone concerntrate amps) back in 97 i think not totaly sure but i'd been dabbling for a while , basiclly when the Criminal Justice Bill came in n fuked upmthe outdoor party scene 4 a while.

Are you on ascript ?
i didn;'t have injectables 4 long as the local agency got a new doc in and he switched everey1 to juice with catastrophic efects.

120 mile round trip 2 score thats some shit where are you roughly if u don't mind ?

Anyhow i hope that everythings good and welcome to BL ya Dimlo

 

[xmitch00ukx]

Hi Gizmo i see that your still having the same problems as i am! I'm beginning to think that things will never get back to normal in Dublin!! But yes the harvest started last month, so all going well we are bound to get some good gear sooooooon!!! This drought has to be nearing the end!!

I know exactly what you mean about people scoring low grade gear & they think its dynamite!! I have had the very same problem for a long time aswell. So in the end i just gave up even trying to score! Through out the drought i would always score on a Thursday after i'd been to my clinic & i'd done my drugs test. But this will now be the fifth week that i haven't scored, i haven't wasted a single cent on sub-standard gear in five whole weeks!!! I have saved myself a fortune!! :D

If i thought that there was proper gear around i would be out the door this minute trying to score it, hopefully i will hear about it when it gets here, but its so hard to trust anyone, the amount of times that good mates of mine have told me that they know where to get 'dynamite gear' but when i've got it its just more low grade gear, i truly can't understand what is wrong with people?! 8(

Anyway we have gotta be really near the end of this drought by now, it may only be a matter of days before we get something good!! Happy hunting!!

harvest may have started last month (march to july) but every site of any note say its an 18month long route for heroin to get here. (ovb hoping it will be fast tracked as there is nothing much around) but if its true that it takes 18months then we are yet to see the drought - altough smugglers may have held back what they had knowing the drought will take effect down the road so holding what they have back and giving it out lil by lil pushing prices up. but if its true about the 18months cud be a hell of a wait yet, and cud get even worse. of course i hope thats wrong. as its got way way way past a joke

and as for buying biscuts we all take stupid risks some times, speciality if we deal with same person. after a while of good servies u let ur guard down a little . any addict with yrs of buying will have been ripped off,

anyway things not getting any better here , and if u manage to get anything with heroin in it, on ur return to buy more u just know its changed and bollocks. and im one of the lucky peeps in my town to have a good person to score from. he gets the best whats around the south

 

[charlie clean]

I had my 1st script (50ml injectable physeptone concerntrate amps) back in 97 i t
i didn;'t have injectables 4 long as the local agency got a new doc in and he switched everey1 to juice with catastrophic efects.

Removed the 'blessed are the peacemakers' pastiche to leave the real meat.

When did this 'everybody switch' happen? I'm assuming it was some years ago.

How many users were affected? What were the consequences and the changes in 'user behaviour'?

 

[ructions]

harvest may have started last month (march to july) but every site of any note say its an 18month long route for heroin to get here.


and as for buying biscuts we all take stupid risks some times, speciality if we deal with same person. after a while of good servies u let ur guard down a little . any addict with yrs of buying will have been ripped off,

Hi Xmitch00ukx How are you?! Biscuits instead of heroin?! Now thats a new one!! You must have been very pissed off when you got home with that. I've scored my far share of bash through-out this drought aswell, practically every every single week untill i eventually gave up even trying about five weeks ago, i had wasted enough cash by that stage, i just couldn't do it anymore!!

18 months sounds like a long time to turn poppies into heroin & then to get it over to UK & Ireland! But it might well be the case. but the drought hit soon enough after the blight so i didn't think that it would take that long. The price of gear is already sky high, if smugglers were hold back gear to make the prices rise surly now would be the time to make it available again. The longer they leave it the more people will get clean & there won't be half the demand for it, & i would imagine that the main guys who bring Heroin into UK & Ireland will get fed up waiting & they will move on to a more reliable type of business. So if they were to hold back heroin for this length of time they would be risking messing up their whole business for good.

Its very hard to find much info on the net about the drought & when things will if ever get back to normal? I thought that something like this would be reported on much more. Its the not knowing that drives me mad. I remember reading somewhere at the start of the drought that it takes about 4 weeks to turn the poppy into heroin & then it takes another 2 to 4 weeks to get it over to us, but i haven't a clue really how long it takes, thats just what i read. I wish i did know, coz if it was going to be 18 months then i would walk away & forget about it, its probably what i should have done in the first place, but so far i just bring myself to walk away.........

So all we can do is keep waiting & keep hoping..... Dublin has no shortage of gear anymore, but the stuff that is available is sub-standard. I'm glad to hear that you have been getting good gear, there have been a few good reports around the UK of good gear, so hopefully it will find its way over here soooooon!!!

 

[hooks]

I heard that it was 2 months from harvest to here. Roughly a month for local movement and processing then another month for shipment around to Europe, maybe add another week or 2 to get over to here.

18 months sounds ridiculous, the fucked harvest was last year and the drought hit here about Oct/Nov time. If we say the last of the stuff got harvested about Aug/Sept then 2 - 3 months would be about right wouldn't it? Unless it's all bollocks and good/bad harvests have nothing to do with supply but that's seem a bit counter-intuitive, no?

As for Tillyisfast going a bit nuts about folk spouting bullshit, I felt the same about Jan time when there wasn't even 2% stuff about, it was total bash and there were still people saying they were getting gear. And not just average gear but proper nice gear AND at near normal prices. I came round to it being the truth tho, called it the 'heroin reality bubble'! But I don't doubt it was true now, I think it's just the percentage of folk that can get access to gear that dictates the harshness of any drought and even at the worst of times I'm sure 0.5% - 1% of users can still get.

What I'm getting now is only average by normal standards and still nearly double the price but it is real gear thank fuck!

 

[ructions]

I heard that it was 2 months from harvest to here. Roughly a month for local movement and processing then another month for shipment around to Europe, maybe add another week or 2 to get over to here.

18 months sounds ridiculous, the fucked harvest was last year and the drought hit here about Oct/Nov time. If we say the last of the stuff got harvested about Aug/Sept then 2 - 3 months would be about right wouldn't it? Unless it's all bollocks and good/bad harvests have nothing to do with supply but that's seem a bit counter-intuitive, no?

As for Tillyisfast going a bit nuts about folk spouting bullshit, I felt the same about Jan time when there wasn't even 2% stuff about, it was total bash and there were still people saying they were getting gear. And not just average gear but proper nice gear AND at near normal prices. I came round to it being the truth tho, called it the 'heroin reality bubble'!

Yeah Hooks, that is what i had read as well, Anything from 6 to 8 weeks, & i'm hoping coz of the drought that they might hurry it along A.S.A.P!

I had a good search through the net, there isn't much info, but i did find this link, from what i read each phase only takes a matter of hours, although i'm sure there are probably a number of days between each phase.

http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/heroinmfg.html

Either way i hope it gets here soooooooon!!!!!

Also i totally agree with you & Tillyisfast, i will never understand the way that people are so happy with the low grade gear thats around my area? I know i keep repeating myself, but why are they fooling themselves? I have have mates who use, through-out the drought they would tell me about 'amazing gear' & when i'd try it it was always crap, i just don't get it?!

 

[jspun]

Runctions

Has anyone ever read the W.S Burroughs book 'Junkie'? It was written in 1953, i was just wondering if it was a good read? It would be interesting to read about heroin addiction in New York in the 50's.

Its an awsome books runcts. It is a semi autobiography of Burroughs- the time frame is mostly WWII era new york if my memory serves me. What I remeber is that the dopefiends would hang out in times square, rob people on the train, and go to MD "croakers" that would right for morphine, ect. The blessings of privatized medicine.8) It discusses the "federal narcotics farm" in Lexington, KY, and how they would detox people (were using morphine injections- pre methadone.) During WWII the supply of heroin was interupted. (Part of that story was that the feds sprung lucky Luciano to aid in the war effort through his connections in Sicily somehow- wereby he established gaming and narcotics rackets in cooperation with the Cuban government- and imported dope to NYC.) The users would rotate who was the dealer and they discuss the "tombs"= NYC city jail- were alot of them would end up and kick cold turkey. Anyway, none of the Luciano story is in the book, just including it FYI- but it later chronicles some of his time in New Orleans and a streatch in Louisiana were he went without heroin. He elequoently described the PAWS we are all familiar with refering to term as the "doldrumes". I think that some of his stay in Mexico City is chronicled. He uses street lingo alot in his book.

Anyway, Aleister Crowley's book "Diary of A Drug Fiend" is good- about aristocratic dopefiends in the 20s (while illegal in the UK but legal in france were they get a bunch, go on a drug fueled honeymoon, and eventually become destitute back in London and despirate. Anyway an interesting look at the drug scene in 20s UK. This book is also tight.

Heard that James Fogel's "Drug Store Cowboy" was good too- but didn't read- saw movie. Heard he was arrested recently for robbing a hotel again. I think he is in his 60s or 70s.

Hope Your Well. Hope you enjoyed the Queen's historic visit- Your Great republic was an Emerald lost in the Monarchy's Crown a century ago or their abouts. Took her time planning a visit.

 

[WarmRushes]

Not too much has changed, still got the same two sources, heard some news about a third I used to get from a while back today from a mate, apparently shes doin .4 for 20 of decent (Which is probably average strength gear) picked up a teener for 70 today and it was probably the best I've had in a long while, still not much strength to it but got a good dunt half of it, wished I'd saved it and not given the other half to my g/f but such us life. It looked/tasted/ran like gear should and did the job pretty well, better than some of the other stuff i've been getting at 25 for .3's.
The quality has suddenly gone up on that also, so it's actually pretty decent but its defo got some odd bash in it, it seems to sizzle and melt when you fire it up and runs like crazy, burned my fingers with it a few times an its kinda like melted sugar/plastic, its not as strong as the stuff I got today but its ok, still not worth the price. Anyway,my days with heroin are well and truly numbered, i'm getting taken off my script this morning, down to 1.6mg subutex and I think I'm gonna jump off straight from there, with a healthy hand out of scripts from my doc to help with the rattle which I'm sure is gonna be very shitty indeed. I'm demanding some hypnotic benzos thats for certain. I still can't tell if i'm totally over the gear, I still use on occasion but know that most of the time its pointless and seemed to have almost learned my lesson, i'm gonna try flying solo and see how I go.

Hope things pick up for everyone and that you guys stay safe, hopefully you won't see me in this thread again for a long while, but time will tell.

 

[xmitch00ukx]

Hi Xmitch00ukx How are you?! Biscuits instead of heroin?! Now thats a new one!! You must have been very pissed off when you got home with that. I've scored my far share of bash through-out this drought aswell, practically every every single week untill i eventually gave up even trying about five weeks ago, i had wasted enough cash by that stage, i just couldn't do it anymore!!

18 months sounds like a long time to turn poppies into heroin & then to get it over to UK & Ireland! But it might well be the case. but the drought hit soon enough after the blight so i didn't think that it would take that long. The price of gear is already sky high, if smugglers were hold back gear to make the prices rise surly now would be the time to make it available again. The longer they leave it the more people will get clean & there won't be half the demand for it, & i would imagine that the main guys who bring Heroin into UK & Ireland will get fed up waiting & they will move on to a more reliable type of business. So if they were to hold back heroin for this length of time they would be risking messing up their whole business for good.

Its very hard to find much info on the net about the drought & when things will if ever get back to normal? I thought that something like this would be reported on much more. Its the not knowing that drives me mad. I remember reading somewhere at the start of the drought that it takes about 4 weeks to turn the poppy into heroin & then it takes another 2 to 4 weeks to get it over to us, but i haven't a clue really how long it takes, thats just what i read. I wish i did know, coz if it was going to be 18 months then i would walk away & forget about it, its probably what i should have done in the first place, but so far i just bring myself to walk away.........

So all we can do is keep waiting & keep hoping..... Dublin has no shortage of gear anymore, but the stuff that is available is sub-standard. I'm glad to hear that you have been getting good gear, there have been a few good reports around the UK of good gear, so hopefully it will find its way over here soooooon!!!

RUCTIONS- ive read this on many many sites. ive cut and pasted it

In its bulletin of 28th January 2011, the Swiss
Federal Office of Police took issue with the
‘disease’ narrative, stating that: “The decline
in opium production in Afghanistan cannot
be the reason (for the shortage), as this
shortage has occurred very rapidly in Europe.
Transporting heroin from Afghanistan to
Europe normally takes 18 months, while the
poor harvest...occurred only in the second half
of 2010”.7 Once again, it is difficult to validate
claims about trafficking timelines, even those
emanating from the police. source - ( http://www.idpc.net/sites/default/files/library/IDPC-briefing-paper-heroin-draught.pdf

(as said alot of sites atcually back the 18months up. so if it is the case we all may be in for a long long wait yet, altough 4 weeks is unlikely on a normal scale as many big networks wud have backed up supplys so wudnt have to get it from afghan to uk so quick. altough hopfully not impossible either when have no back up. but as said read the 18month thing alot since oct last year on many sites , so other then them all using same source of info looks likely that it does take 18months normally


*i said ive been getting good geaR? i wish that was the case mate, ive been getting gear with gear in it, which is rare down here but not any where near pre drought heroin

 

[strungout2010]

@ warmrushes. ^
hope things work out for you mate & the docs sort you out as they should.
We do reach that point when enough is enough. And subs IMO are very good choice. Good luck with the jump off son. !

 

[brimz]

I thought every Heroin addict has to read Junkie by Burroghs, it's part of the curiculum !

I haven't read Drug Store Cowboy either but it's a top Movie.

 

[brimz]

Not too much has changed, still got the same two sources, heard some news about a third I used to get from a while back today from a mate, apparently shes doin .4 for 20 of decent (Which is probably average strength gear) picked up a teener for 70 today and it was probably the best I've had in a long while, still not much strength to it but got a good dunt half of it, wished I'd saved it and not given the other half to my g/f but such us life. It looked/tasted/ran like gear should and did the job pretty well, better than some of the other stuff i've been getting at 25 for .3's.
The quality has suddenly gone up on that also, so it's actually pretty decent but its defo got some odd bash in it, it seems to sizzle and melt when you fire it up and runs like crazy, burned my fingers with it a few times an its kinda like melted sugar/plastic, its not as strong as the stuff I got today but its ok, still not worth the price. Anyway,my days with heroin are well and truly numbered, i'm getting taken off my script this morning, down to 1.6mg subutex and I think I'm gonna jump off straight from there, with a healthy hand out of scripts from my doc to help with the rattle which I'm sure is gonna be very shitty indeed. I'm demanding some hypnotic benzos thats for certain. I still can't tell if i'm totally over the gear, I still use on occasion but know that most of the time its pointless and seemed to have almost learned my lesson, i'm gonna try flying solo and see how I go.

Hope things pick up for everyone and that you guys stay safe, hopefully you won't see me in this thread again for a long while, but time will tell.

All the best with your plan. :D
You don't think maybe you should taper down a bit further 1.6 is a fair jump ?

It sounds like you've made your mind up , and are mentally prepared , maybe you can give us an update in a while, would be intrested to see how things go 4 you.
Take care ,Brimz

 

[blondin]

You should read 'Queer' By WBS it sort of follows on from Junkie. I have a CD of Him reading Junkie - its fucking acers he has such a good voice. Did another strip of fent last night (1 Left) it is the bollox. Still got 4 oxy's sitting there but while there is good gear about they will be a treat for another time - I only ever snort them or fix 'em never actually swallowed them - Brimz you ever crushed and eaten?

 

[Myshkin]

Snorting oxys is wasteful and not worth it IME. Some people like to leave a small amount to snort once the effects kick in, but for the most part it's a US snorting fetish thing.

Snorted biovailability =46-47%

Oral bioavailability =60-87%

No contest.

 

[blondin]

@sg not quite as simple as that as the snorting brings it on alot quicker and the residue then goes down the throat