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Regional Eccies Chat, episode "Leave your hats at home!" (MDMA/Pills)

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bogman said:
http://www.saferparty.ch/tl_files/images/download/file/Warnungen_PDF_2013/MDMA+MDA_Oktober_2013.pdf

pill with MDMA + MDA <3
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These turned to shit already?

http://www.saferparty.ch/tl_files/i...ngen_PDF_2013/checkit!_Warnungen 0913 doc.pdf

62mg MDMA, MDA (trace), Amphetamine (trace) or are they having some problems? These ones are different dimensions though...

Some other noteworthy results in there also, mainly the Coke ones + cuts.. seems phenacetin is used as a cut in almost all of the results...
 
tolo said:
blue supermans are very nice!! Really loved up buzz off them not that same mongey feeling i got off the lambos or MK's!!
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Excellent! I have a few of these for this weekend at a festival. Will be taking after a half tab of AL-LAD. Should be interesting!

Trippy pills. Well I mind the Red Defcons around June last year. One of those and a bit of G had me tripping my balls off seeing folk in my living room who weren't there. Was totally fooked, thought we came back from the pub and I asked my mate who the guests were, and the blonde bird he was with. It was 4 hours from closing time, there were no guests nor blonde bird and we hadn't even left for the pub...

Ahhh good times. Really like trippy pills.
 
Has anyone got any info on the pink facebook likes, without the breakline?

Have found decent reports on pr, all with breakline pills though :/
 
swedger77 said:
Apologies but I posted this in ED. Its old news but basically Shulgin basically detailed that the effects of MDMA can vary depending on its molecular structure.

Some types having more emapthy......fucking knew it was not all in my head.

http://countyourculture.com/2011/05/23/mirrored-magic-mdma/
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Very true, I never considered this with MDMA, people always talk about R- and S-ketamine and the differences there. Pretty sure there are only two possible enantiomers of chiral ("handed"/mirror-image) molecules, but they may be present in different proportions so this can sometimes explain the differing effects of different batches of drugs.
 
Hang on, if I'd just bothered Googling 'Shulgin MDMA differences' years ago, the whole argument of safrole MDMA being better than other routes would have been put to bed? Well, I suppose that's a big 'fuck you!' to the 'MDMA is MDMA' crew. I really wish I could get hold of some more Turtles. Honestly the best pills I've done in 7-ish years. There's just no pills around like them...
 
^ No, it's not. I went over this in ED.. racemic MDMA (equal parts of both isomers) is typically the only thing being sold on the commercial market. R and S-MDMA are both said to be inferior to racemic MDMA, not to mention MUCH harder to produce. No chemist is going to spend the extra time and money to sell an product people won't like as much
 
folley said:
^ no, it's not. I went over this in ed.. Racemic mdma (equal parts of both isomers) is typically the only thing being sold on the commercial market. R and s-mdma are both said to be inferior to racemic mdma, not to mention much harder to produce. No chemist is going to spend the extra time and money to sell an product people won't like as much
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murica!
 
Folley said:
^ No, it's not. I went over this in ED.. racemic MDMA (equal parts of both isomers) is typically the only thing being sold on the commercial market. R and S-MDMA are both said to be inferior to racemic MDMA, not to mention MUCH harder to produce. No chemist is going to spend the extra time and money to sell an product people won't like as much
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Ah, very well. Here's a thread with some discussion by TRUSTED SCIENTISTS on the matter. Sounds like the presence of MDA is the overwhelmingly more likely culprit for "better" MDMA.
 
From EVAD in 2010:-
In EADD over time and of late I have noticed a lot of seasoned UK ecstasy users saying that the effects of MDMA changed noticeably around 1998, that after a drought the pills that returned to the market were always somewhat lacking to those before it.
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I 100% remember this period. One minute every pill was full of love and empathy...pretty much regardless of set and setting......then a little drought, then came the Mitsubishi era which never had the same empathy as before. Unless you were taking pills either side of this period in the UK you will never know what people are talking about when we say "Pills just ain't the same anymore".

I have had pills sine them that had the same effect but in general the MDMA and pills i get lack the empathic effect I love so much.
 
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swedger77 said:
in general the MDMA and pills i get lack the empathic effect I love so much.
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Well, it would explain clubs being full of completely wasted people that aren't interested in interacting with anyone else. I've had nights out on lovely empathetic crystal MDMA and been wondering what others have had because they've been so grumpy and unfriendly.

Does this mean PLUR will die? :!
 
swedger77 said:
From EVAD in 2010:-


I 100% remember this period. One minute every pills was full of love and empathy...pretty much regardless of set and setting......then a little drought, then came the Mitsubishi era which never had the same empathy as before. Unless you were taking pills either side of this period in the UK you will never know what people are talking about when we say "Pills just ain't the same anymore".

I have had pills sine them that had the same effect but in general the MDMA and pills i get lack the empathic effect I love so much.
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I love you.

I was one of the people Evad was speaking of. He admitted to me that the weight of evidence was so strong (ie he'd come across soooo many people saying the same thing) that it seriously challenged his scientific belief of MDMA is MDMA is MDMA.
 
knock said:
Sounds like the presence of MDA is the overwhelmingly more likely culprit for "better" MDMA.
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Yes.

The clean MDMA pills around now are exactly the same as the ones I was taking in 2001. The good pills back then were then ones with MDA shoved in there with MDMA.
 
StoneHappyMonday said:
I love you.

I was one of the people Evad was speaking of. He admitted to me that the weight of evidence was so strong (ie he'd come across soooo many people saying the same thing) that it seriously challenged his scientific belief of MDMA is MDMA is MDMA.
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I can remember the period after the summer of 1998 and remember that something had changed and not for the better. I was taking pills very regularly back then too and knew my shit. As i said, unless you had taken pills before the change period (summer 98 IIRC) you will never know what us oldies are talking about.

Its was an obvious change too. Felt like a different chemicals to be fair. Similar but just no' the same.
 
anyone tried the supermans with bit of glitter in them? they might be orange. from bristol area. no mandy anywhere at the moment
 
Digger909 said:
Interesting to see the mario bullets are lower strength than originally stated 8(
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some of the MGs stated should be taken with a pinch of salt, plus it's not unknown for the first small batch to have a large amount of MD in the pill then the second larger batch to be of a lower dose then the logo is copied and fuck knows what can be in the pill.
 
swedger77 said:
From EVAD in 2010:-


I 100% remember this period. One minute every pill was full of love and empathy...pretty much regardless of set and setting......then a little drought, then came the Mitsubishi era which never had the same empathy as before. Unless you were taking pills either side of this period in the UK you will never know what people are talking about when we say "Pills just ain't the same anymore".

I have had pills sine them that had the same effect but in general the MDMA and pills i get lack the empathic effect I love so much.
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I remember it too, the big drought, then the mighty Mitsubishi sweeped the nation, strong pills, but nowhere near as lovey as the ones before that drought.
 
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