lamanogaucha
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Hello,
This is my first "real" post on Bluelight, so I hope that I have posted it in the appropriate place. If not, please feel free to place it in the correct location.
I have resided and worked in China since early last decade. During that time, I saved some money to "retire" for a long period of time in order to engage on a long-term project involving psychedelics, a handful of empathogens and a tiny handful of stimulants. I now have the means, opportunity and time to do so. The project's ultimate goal is to see publication of a book regarding the subject of "research chemicals" -- my experiences with said materials, summary personal observations on each compound, and whatever pertinent information that may be useful to those interested in the subject, novice and experienced alike. I estimate that the project will take between three and five years to complete, as I have assembled and properly stored a collection of nearly thirty compounds to explore (and probably a few more will be added). Nearly all of these are (and will always remain) psychedelics, including phenethylamines, tryptamines and dissociatives (the focus falls strongly on the first two, and at approximately equal ratios, however). Each material will be tested between five and ten times, usually in increasing doses and occasionally repeating a "level" if deemed necessary or if exploring a different ROA. Please keep in mind that I drink alcohol only three or four times a year (and never less than at least two months prior to a psychedelic experiment) and I stopped using cannabis years ago (and have never used cannabinoids). I am under no medication whatsoever, but I do take multivitamin supplements daily. This has been the case for many years. However, I do smoke tobacco -- approximately three-quarters of a pack of unfiltered cigarettes daily for over twenty years. I really must quit, but I love to smoke, sad to say, while the PRC is not exactly the best place to give up that addiction...
During the last two months, I explored the first compound of the project: 4-AcO-DiPT (HCl). This was executed at the following dosages (via oral ROA): 15mg, 20mg, 25mg, 30mg, 30mg, 30mg, 32mg, and 15mg. I experienced very little to no tolerance issues with all but one of these experiments, all of which were extremely enjoyable, even if another one was slightly spoiled during the second half due to some neighbors believing that it's fine to bring roosters into their respective apartments and allowing them to scream continuously through the night ("cultural difference", mainland China style; on the other hand, it is a blessing to live in a country where all of the project's materials are, paradoxically, legal, as I've dutifully confirmed via current government documents written in Mandarin).
I followed the above experiments with 25D-NBOMe, a sharply contrasting compound. The ROA was buccal and the initial dose was 1.2mg. Feeling rather underwhelmed one hour after the forty-five minute saliva festival I had to endure (I held the eventually massive amount of gooey, bitter liquid in my mouth that entire time prior to swallowing it slowly, blotters and all), I ingested an additional 400ug (which was kept in its rightful place for about thirty minutes). The theoretical total was now 1.6mg and the time was T+2.25. Primary psychedelic effects gradually became somewhat more apparent but by T+3.25, I was still "not there", so I consumed an additional 800ug over a second thirty minute period. The theoretical total was now 2.4mg, a substantial dose, and the time was T+3.75. This eventually brought me to the edge of "there", but not quite. All the same, the experience was pleasant, albeit in a rather analytical way, and there was no body load throughout its total duration, which was approximately nine hours.
I understand that this compound -- and 25x-NBOMe's in general -- can produce rapid tolerance toward itself, but I suspect that tolerance accumulation is extreme with this material, as 2.4mg should have virtually floored me. It seems that this compound demands that a psychonaut ingest the total dose immediately or nothing at all.
I also suspect that cross-tolerance may be an issue in view that my final test with 4-AcO-DiPT (at 15mg) was conducted a scant two days prior to my first 25D-NBOMe experiment. This leads to several questions:
1) Can 4-AcO-DiPT (and/or any other tryptamines, particularly the 4- and 5-substituted compounds) taken prior to 25D-NBOMe (and/or any other NBOMe's, particularly the 25x compounds) cause cross-tolerance problems? If so, how long, on average, should one wait between the two experiments?
2) Can 25D-NBOMe (and/or any other NBOMe's, particularly the 25x compounds) taken prior to 4-AcO-DiPT (and/or any other tryptamines, particularly the 4- and 5-substituted compounds) cause cross-tolerance problems? If so, how long, on average, should one wait between the two experiments?
3) Closely related to the above, I understand that one should wait approximately two weeks between 25D-NBOMe trials (and the same applies to 25x-NBOMe's in general), but does this rule also apply in the case of 25D-NBOMe vis-a-vis other psychedelics?
This information is important to me because I want to schedule 25x-NBOMe's very carefully, so as not to accidentally have them interfere with other compounds. Likewise, I want to insure that other compounds don't interfere with 25x-NBOMe's.
I'm looking forward to your responses. Thanks.
This is my first "real" post on Bluelight, so I hope that I have posted it in the appropriate place. If not, please feel free to place it in the correct location.
I have resided and worked in China since early last decade. During that time, I saved some money to "retire" for a long period of time in order to engage on a long-term project involving psychedelics, a handful of empathogens and a tiny handful of stimulants. I now have the means, opportunity and time to do so. The project's ultimate goal is to see publication of a book regarding the subject of "research chemicals" -- my experiences with said materials, summary personal observations on each compound, and whatever pertinent information that may be useful to those interested in the subject, novice and experienced alike. I estimate that the project will take between three and five years to complete, as I have assembled and properly stored a collection of nearly thirty compounds to explore (and probably a few more will be added). Nearly all of these are (and will always remain) psychedelics, including phenethylamines, tryptamines and dissociatives (the focus falls strongly on the first two, and at approximately equal ratios, however). Each material will be tested between five and ten times, usually in increasing doses and occasionally repeating a "level" if deemed necessary or if exploring a different ROA. Please keep in mind that I drink alcohol only three or four times a year (and never less than at least two months prior to a psychedelic experiment) and I stopped using cannabis years ago (and have never used cannabinoids). I am under no medication whatsoever, but I do take multivitamin supplements daily. This has been the case for many years. However, I do smoke tobacco -- approximately three-quarters of a pack of unfiltered cigarettes daily for over twenty years. I really must quit, but I love to smoke, sad to say, while the PRC is not exactly the best place to give up that addiction...
During the last two months, I explored the first compound of the project: 4-AcO-DiPT (HCl). This was executed at the following dosages (via oral ROA): 15mg, 20mg, 25mg, 30mg, 30mg, 30mg, 32mg, and 15mg. I experienced very little to no tolerance issues with all but one of these experiments, all of which were extremely enjoyable, even if another one was slightly spoiled during the second half due to some neighbors believing that it's fine to bring roosters into their respective apartments and allowing them to scream continuously through the night ("cultural difference", mainland China style; on the other hand, it is a blessing to live in a country where all of the project's materials are, paradoxically, legal, as I've dutifully confirmed via current government documents written in Mandarin).
I followed the above experiments with 25D-NBOMe, a sharply contrasting compound. The ROA was buccal and the initial dose was 1.2mg. Feeling rather underwhelmed one hour after the forty-five minute saliva festival I had to endure (I held the eventually massive amount of gooey, bitter liquid in my mouth that entire time prior to swallowing it slowly, blotters and all), I ingested an additional 400ug (which was kept in its rightful place for about thirty minutes). The theoretical total was now 1.6mg and the time was T+2.25. Primary psychedelic effects gradually became somewhat more apparent but by T+3.25, I was still "not there", so I consumed an additional 800ug over a second thirty minute period. The theoretical total was now 2.4mg, a substantial dose, and the time was T+3.75. This eventually brought me to the edge of "there", but not quite. All the same, the experience was pleasant, albeit in a rather analytical way, and there was no body load throughout its total duration, which was approximately nine hours.
I understand that this compound -- and 25x-NBOMe's in general -- can produce rapid tolerance toward itself, but I suspect that tolerance accumulation is extreme with this material, as 2.4mg should have virtually floored me. It seems that this compound demands that a psychonaut ingest the total dose immediately or nothing at all.
I also suspect that cross-tolerance may be an issue in view that my final test with 4-AcO-DiPT (at 15mg) was conducted a scant two days prior to my first 25D-NBOMe experiment. This leads to several questions:
1) Can 4-AcO-DiPT (and/or any other tryptamines, particularly the 4- and 5-substituted compounds) taken prior to 25D-NBOMe (and/or any other NBOMe's, particularly the 25x compounds) cause cross-tolerance problems? If so, how long, on average, should one wait between the two experiments?
2) Can 25D-NBOMe (and/or any other NBOMe's, particularly the 25x compounds) taken prior to 4-AcO-DiPT (and/or any other tryptamines, particularly the 4- and 5-substituted compounds) cause cross-tolerance problems? If so, how long, on average, should one wait between the two experiments?
3) Closely related to the above, I understand that one should wait approximately two weeks between 25D-NBOMe trials (and the same applies to 25x-NBOMe's in general), but does this rule also apply in the case of 25D-NBOMe vis-a-vis other psychedelics?
This information is important to me because I want to schedule 25x-NBOMe's very carefully, so as not to accidentally have them interfere with other compounds. Likewise, I want to insure that other compounds don't interfere with 25x-NBOMe's.
I'm looking forward to your responses. Thanks.
