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Reefer kills brain cells???

UCSD is world leader in Marijuana research. And yes everything kills braincells. Including tapping your head, holding breath, smoking anything ..

And the new car smell is plasticizers that are evaporating from the polymers in your car.

Also, researchers have found new braincells to form (old myth). And a big thing that aids in regeneration is exercise, so smoke your pretty head off, but remember to use your brain by reading and exercising.
TV KILLS BRAINS!
 
I don't think tapping your head kills brain cells. and I don't think holding your breath within reason kills brain cells.
 
No, while you are living, brain cells die. Its not necessarily causative.
 
The different chemicals in the smoke and the fact that you hold your breath when you smoke is the major cause of brain damage. They should do a study between people who smoke everyday and those who ingest pot everyday. Of course a study like that would show how little damage THC does and of course out society doesn't want that.
 
jar4ever said:
The different chemicals in the smoke and the fact that you hold your breath when you smoke is the major cause of brain damage.

No.. It has just been said why. And yeah, the high variety of compounds is the reason why it's so hard to draw a conclusion. If it were THC only, then we would find out in no time..
 
A bit of research shows that crude marijauan extract (so like CBD, THC, CBN, CBC...) was more toxic than the same amount of pure THC.
 
Bump, just wondering if there is any new info regarding neurotoxicity of thc as this thread is a few years old now.
Also interesting to note how many ex bluelighters with very high post counts are in this thread? Natural attrition or further evidence of the new "zero tollerance" moderating style that seems to prevail on this board...I wonder...
 
jar4ever said:
The different chemicals in the smoke and the fact that you hold your breath when you smoke is the major cause of brain damage. They should do a study between people who smoke everyday and those who ingest pot everyday. Of course a study like that would show how little damage THC does and of course out society doesn't want that.


the study that indicated thc was neurotoxic was done with thc only.
 
Well although I dont know about the THC simple things like bumping your head or sneezing kills brain cells as dose drinking alcohol. How ever the brain is VERY good at re wiring info into non dead cells so I wouldnt worrie about it.
 
While the title of the thread was about pot killing brain cells I think what we need to also adress here is neurotoxicity. Many people confuse brain damage as being only frank cell death. Neurotoxicity can range from gene induction, receptor & second messenger reregulation, cytoskeletal & neurofilament alterations..ad infinitum.

It is well known that acute marijuana produces increase in blood flow and glucose metabolism in the brain & particularly the frontal lobe for a short time followed by an opposing drop in metabolism. Long term cannabis users show greater levels of electrical synchronization in the frontal lobe. Synchronization correlates with lack of thought, you synchronize when you meditate, also people with mild cognitive impairment showincreased sync. but throughout the brain. Heavy cannabis use *can*-not will cause a frontal lobe syndrome characterized by apathy & flattened affect...The reverse of the signs seen right after smoking when the glucose metabolism is higher.

One thing that hasn't been addressed much are the long term behavioral alterations (excluding the above), I've listened to Love Line where Drew Pinsky(M.D. Board Cert. Addiction Med Spec.) repeatedly picks out people who used to smoke pot just by their voice, their affect and even the way they laugh.

So I think whether or not Marijuana with/without its various constituents causes frank cell death in/ex vivo is at this point moot. Ther jury is still out. What is known however is that marijuana use over time can produce metabolic changes in the brain regions where its receptor populations are greatest & these changes are readily observable on EEG, as well as producing behavioral manifestations.

I'm not trying to be down on pot, I still smoke, though not nearly as much as I used to since I learned this & I feel better too. (Was smoking 5x a day)
 
Neuropsychological consequences of regular marijuana use: a twin study
M. J. LYONS a1c1, J. L. BAR a1, M. S. PANIZZON a1, R. TOOMEY a1, S. EISEN a1, H. XIAN a1 and M. T. TSUANG a1

a1 Department of Psychology, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA; Harvard Medical School, Department of Psychiatry at the Brockton/West Roxbury VA, USA; Harvard Institute of Psychiatric Epidemiology and Genetics, Boston, MA, USA; Research and Medical Service, St. Louis VA, St. Louis, MO, USA; Division of General Medical Sciences, Department of Medicine, Washington University, St. Louis, MO, USA; Harvard Medical School, Department of Psychiatry at Massachusetts Mental Health Center, Boston, MA, USA; Harvard School of Public Health, Department of Epidemiology, Boston, MA, USA

Abstract

Background. Results of previous research examining long-term residual effects of marijuana use on cognition are conflicting. A major methodological limitation of prior studies is the inability to determine whether differences between users and non-users are due to differences in genetic vulnerability preceding drug use or due to the effects of the drug.

Method. Fifty-four monozygotic male twin pairs, discordant for regular marijuana use in which neither twin used any other illicit drug regularly, were recruited from the Vietnam Era Twin Registry. A minimum of 1 year had passed since the marijuana-using twins had last used the drug, and a mean of almost 20 years had passed since the last time marijuana had been used regularly. Twins were administered a comprehensive neuropsychological test battery to assess general intelligence, executive functioning, attention, memory and motor skills. Differences in performance between marijuana-using twins and their non-using co-twins were compared using a multivariate analysis of specific cognitive domains and univariate analyses of individual test scores. Dose–response relationships were explored within the marijuana-using group.

Results. Marijuana-using twins significantly differed from their non-using co-twins on the general intelligence domain; however, within that domain only the performance of the block design subtest of the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale – Revised reached a level of statistical significance.

Conclusions. Out of the numerous measures that were administered, only one significant difference was noted between marijuana-using twins and their non-using co-twins on cognitive functioning. The results indicate an absence of marked long-term residual effects of marijuana use on cognitive abilities.

Correspondence:
c1 Dr Michael J. Lyons, Psychology Department, Boston University, 64 Cummington Street, Boston, MA 02215, USA. (Email: [email protected])
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=255433
 
PhireXZ said:
Didnt a study dis-prove the fact that your brain cells never grow back, ie they actually DO regenerate?

IE.. even if you wrecked your brain cells with weed, after a week or a month they would probably be back to the levels that they were normally at anyway

weed makes me feel dumb, although im not really, if i dont smoke for a few hours im that much on the ball it aint funny

good point malice, everything you do will kill brain cells, if you enjoy your weed, dont let a few scientific studies stop you, i'd be more worried about lung cancer and other illnesses from it rather than a few shitty brain cells.. :) *bangs head on desk and probably kills more doing that, than in a while nights smoking!*

alot of it is mental as well

you have to stimulate the brain

thats why most people say weed kills brain cells, cuz most stoners are lazy fucks

but if you stimulate the brain by reading, doing puzzles and what not then you should be fine
 
One thing that has not been mentioned I dont think in this whole debate is, NEUROGENESIS. This is a process where parts of the brain grow back new cells.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurogenesis

Also NEUROPLASTICITY, this is for example when you learn a musical instrument, the parts of the brain that are associated with the learning grow, its basically use it or loose it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity

I dare say that alcohol kills more brain cells than any other daily experience or indulgance. Imagine whats going on in your brain when your blood is filled with a neuro-toxic substance gradually making its way to the areas of the brain your using at the time. Sadly some people get knocked unconscious and hit their head on the ground? Its long been known that in large doses (sadly what most people set out to achieve in public) alcohol kills brain cell.

I've read that sneezing, bumping your head hard and alot of paints, fuels chemical compounds when inhaled in large quantities are very dangerous to the brain. But these things are a way of life for people so possibly alot of stuff is killing off our brains and we dont know, but thankfully it is growing back when needed.

I hope this clears up any ambiguous misconceptions.
 
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