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Redosing on mdma every 3 hours. for about 2 days. This is madness surely?

Bearlove said:
Here comes a bit of a fleeting statement and I apologise upfront if its misunderstood (certainly not aimed at everyone) -

Party people in the UK do have the tendency to binge - drink - drugs etc. I have been to many a party, rave where the amounts of drugs taken is crazy and people living outside the UK would simply not believe the amounts and think it was some dicksizing comment.

Being around the site and working in many regions has highlighted this all the more. You can go for days using MDMA - the fact is that after a certain amount you stop feeling 'loved up' / rolling etc and your just felling wrecked. Music still sounds good but you have no energy, you feel tired but awake at the same time and just out of it. Yes some people enjoy that experience but I can tell you now that the comedown from a few days of partying like that sucks.
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This is so true, especially about the people who MDMA binge in the UK.

I have 2 friends, just friends through the club scene, who absolutely hammer MDMA.
One told me he used to eat 8-12 pills a week, only eating twice that same week. (Bare in mind this is UK, the pills here are very rarely under 120mg since they've taken them).

I was at a club with him, he went through 1g mdma and 1.5 blue elephants (270mg roughly). The blue elephants alone would have had me royally fucked.

I tried contacting him, but didn't get a reply til Monday, he done the MDMA Friday - I guess his comedown was bad.
he's been doing the MD constantly for about 1.5 years now, and only after the big festival in the UK last weekend has he complained about "head shocks" (which most refer to as brain zaps here).


I don't know how he does it, I'm just scared one day he'll keel over from some sort of seizure/meltdown or some shit. Thats heavy abus.
 
A LOT of people over abuse the drugs. Using every week - if you do it once or twice, you'll be fine. When I started using, I did it three weekends in a row. Terrible comedown the last time.

I go to this club and basically everyone is on mdma there. It's open twice a week, Friday and Sunday. Every single time I'm there, I see the same guy there. And he tells me about other times when I wasn't there. He's there at LEAST once a week. Probably twice a week. It's so scary. And the drugs AT the club are always cut with something. Although usually caffeine. Still ... how good is caffeine? It's not m :p BUT I think m with caffeine can keep you going for a lot longer!
 
@ FBC, check my posts above too.

". In contrast, no long-term serotonergic changes occurred after 2.5 mg/kg MDMA was given orally every two weeks for four months to squirrel monkeys (Ricaurte, unpublished, cited in Vollenweider, 1999). [Editor's note: a therapeutic dose of 125 mg in a 150 pound person would translate to 1.66 mg/kg]"

That basically nails my usuage pattern, if not more, because I never reached 2.5 mg/kg. Maybe once that's it.

Also,
"In one study, 1.25 mg/kg oral MDMA did not produce any long-term serotonergic changes when given twice daily for 4 consecutive days. Similarly repeated doses of 2.5 mg/kg MDMA lowered hippocampal 5-HT (to about 80% of controls) but did not affect levels in 6 other brain regions at post one month (Ali, 1993). In another experiment, Insel (1989) found that 2.5 mg/kg MDMA given intramuscularly twice daily for 4 days to rhesus monkeys produced extensive (possibly short term) 5-HT depletions but did not alter SERT density at 16 to 18 hours after the last drug exposure"

And

"a study that raises interesting questions about possible tolerance to MDMA neurotoxicity, Frederick (1995) investigated the long-term effects of escalating doses of MDMA. Intramuscular MDMA (0.1-20 mg/kg) was given twice daily for 14 consecutive days at each dose level and followed by three dose-response regimens using single MDMA doses up to 5.6 mg/kg. One month after the final dose-response determination and 21 months after the initial escalating dose regimen, animals were sacrificed. Few significant serotonergic effects were found. MDMA exposure did not produce significant 5-HT depletions in any brain region and decreased SERT to about 60% of control levels only in the hippocampus (and not two other brain regions). "
Bye these are all cited from Erowid, which has it's more specific studies cited for further inquiry.

PS sorry for high jacking this thread people, I would have PMd it to FBC but his inbox is full.
 
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If you know someone that abuses MDxx or ecstasy-SAY SOMETHING. It's almost never to late, it's only too late if you don't try to help.
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But noone listens to me because im new and im a proper caring kind of guy :'(

I spend way too much time on Bluelight, and other websites reading and learning.
I do this with Everything and Anything ive ever gotten into , whatever it may be, hobby or whatever its just how i am.

But as i say noone will listen to me.
 
An Update on this.

Me - Railed 100mg of ketamine. Took a big dab of MDMA . Rolled bloody hard. Had 2 pints of magners that morning and rest of time just drank water , ..Railed about 600mg of ketamine from that evening to end of night. Smoked a couple of joints throughout this too.

Others - Ate about 6 dabs of MDMA in total. maybe 7-8 .. Not sure of total number At least 6 times they redosed though . every few hours. Drank lots and had odd bump of k.

All week ive felt honestly very very good state of mind. in fact i have got work in the morning, I have been really motivated and ringing around and i havent had work since october, but i got a job today =)
Everyone else - Very very miserable . Someone reported Symptoms of - Sudden sickness feeling, nausea, Faint and/or dizzy, Sick then better after being sick (today)

Hmmmmmmmm.
maybe next time when i say Roll once, They will only roll once lol
 
most people in dublin do this, stay out all wknd getting mad outivit, ur having so much fun u dont want to go home.dropping pills and drinkin from friday til sunday things always get funnier the next night, whats the point in goin home if your still fucked u mite aswel enjoy it drop more and stay up talking shite and getting up to funny antics its brilliant. are you a new commer to e yeah?
 
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Why abuse?

The price to get high becomes increasingly higher, while the buzz decreases in strength and becomes worthless.

I see MDMA as a special treat with close friends and I want to keep it that way. I see people dropping 4+ pills a night, they hit the 1.5 mark before they get a gurn on. I'm more fucked from half a dutch pill, or completely wiped out unable to walk if I dropped a full one (haven't had the balls to yet).
 
illuz1oN said:
Why abuse?

The price to get high becomes increasingly higher, while the buzz decreases in strength and becomes worthless.

I see MDMA as a special treat with close friends and I want to keep it that way. I see people dropping 4+ pills a night, they hit the 1.5 mark before they get a gurn on. I'm more fucked from half a dutch pill, or completely wiped out unable to walk if I dropped a full one (haven't had the balls to yet).
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Lol a Purple Triforce pill sent the eyes rolling in my head for 2 hours in holland lol.

Its sooo much better being sensitive to drugs and lower tolerance
 
jesus lukcy yous, i do drop loads of pills in a night but i do be going for 2 days. when did yous start doing e? iam doin it 10years now
 
After dosing mdma that ofton they will probably be left with sleep paralysis and brain zaps for a good few days. In my opinion there is no point doing so much of it as it doesnt offer you much of high after a while. Its a waste of good mdma!
 
Personal experience makes me think you have been up for 2 days on cathinone, bet is on methylone. Sounds like how it gets into a compulsive dosing coke deal and yea sounds completely like methylone. Marquis should turn rapidly into an intense yellow color.

I like it a lot, thats sorta the problem. But if you have been eating clean methylone you probably wont feel nearly as bad as you expect you will.
 
I redose at least every 3 hours, try not to take too much but longest ive gone (with a trip as well) is 32 hours rolling. Recovered fairly well from that one then went on a 5 day bender a couple of weeks later, ended up just consuming unbelievable amounts, had some sleep here and there but just going nuts on the stuff. I'd just like to say this is a fucking stupid thing to do... my brain is still fried from this shit months later, I'm an emotional basket case if i'm not high and don't really see any chance of recovering if I don't stop taking drugs for at least a year. but yeah no regrets hey i've had some fucking awesome experiences :-)
 
wow. dosing that often is fucking retarded, but I know people who do it too. For me, redosing while I'm still rolling balls results in memory loss, increased teeth grinding/biting my cheeks, anxiety, bad comedown and otherwise not having a good time. The people I knew would take three pokeballs in one night, then do it again the next night. We stopped having roll parties because it wasn't fun anymore. Our source was concerned about us, and stopped giving it to us, because we did not have SHIT worth self control. and thats why abusing roll is stupid.
 
I don't really understand why people would want to redose over a long amount of time. If you reach the real peak of MDMA you won't be craving more MDMA if it isn't getting you to that peak. Like rollling isn't about how long you can roll its about that maximum peak you can achieve, to me anyways. I am an advocate for HIGH doses of molly. I wouldn't say the same for rolls though, just because the other things in them can be dangerous. But with legit pure molly, I recommend taking a lot at once and not redosing at all. For a long time, because you will need to recover.

Not to mention redosing over a long time would cause you a world of problems. I can only imagine how scrambled your brain would be after something like that.
 
Worst drug experience I've had in my life was when I went over to a buddies place to roll with some friends, took my normal dose, got nothing, took a bit more, got nothing, took a bit more, got nothing, took a lot more, got a little bit of mood/energy elevation but still nothing - then had a terrible come down - which I was able to eliminate by redosing (this was 6-7 hours later) which allieviated the comedown but didn't help the fact I was already having trouble getting to sleep. Even though I knew better, I took another a few hours later when I started feeling like shit again but decided that was it, enough was enough, I should just suck it up and push through it until I can get to sleep. No such luck, couldn't do it, I felt so shitty a few hours after each dose and had no will power to stop so I kept taking more, every 3-6 hours for several days straight without sleep. I was a mess. Didn't even feel good, I just felt a lot better than the shitty state that kept coming back when it wore off. I only stopped when I ran out, went through about $200 worth of molly if I recall correctly.

Like you'll hear from many people here, what goes up must come down and with re-dosing MDMA once your well on your way down is a waste because you won't get back up nearly to the height of your peak. I think re-dosing is best when you're peaking or better yet a little bit before you peak. My best results are when I re-dose right when I feel myself really start coming up. Some friends of mine like to re-dose as they come down because it makes the come down gentler but I prefer to get it over with, not prolong it. I like being able to sleep after rolling but I never can for a while after dosing so I like to have as much fun as I can while not re-dosing too late to be able to get some shut eye after coming down.
 
Number Love said:
I don't really understand why people would want to redose over a long amount of time. If you reach the real peak of MDMA you won't be craving more MDMA if it isn't getting you to that peak. Like rollling isn't about how long you can roll its about that maximum peak you can achieve, to me anyways. I am an advocate for HIGH doses of molly. I wouldn't say the same for rolls though, just because the other things in them can be dangerous. But with legit pure molly, I recommend taking a lot at once and not redosing at all. For a long time, because you will need to recover.

Not to mention redosing over a long time would cause you a world of problems. I can only imagine how scrambled your brain would be after something like that.
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After binging on what was probably over $200 worth of molly over nearly 4 days, I'd hate to think what I've done to MY brain... and to think I'm the guy who always preaches moderation and responsibility -_-
 
I too used to be one of the idiots that would consume a shitload of MDMA. I never really had much reasoning behind it other than "I wanna get MORE fucked", and with no-one around to tell me otherwise, that's usually what I would do. I've bendered far beyond the realms of possibility and I payed the price. It's odd, methamphetamine I'm able to bender on quite heavily at high doses and it's usually only the same amount of days bendered as it is for recovery, although when I was taking MDMA, I felt as though I'd recovered after suicide Tuesday, but it wasn't until I had an extensive break that I realised the immense damage i'd caused and how long it took to repair. It's been nearly 8 months since the last time I consumed MDMA (I HAVE been on SSRI's in this time but I doubt I would have taken it anyway) and around 2 years since I really binged on it. The last big binge I had on it would have been roughly 4.5g of MDA/MDMA (not entirely sure although I'd lean more towards the MDA side of things, I was too bent on other substances to be 100% certain though) crystal over the course of 11-12 days, obviously with a lot of poly-drug use including cannabis, alcohol, cocaine, methamphetamine, 4-MMC, piperazine, nitrous. I think i'm still actually recovering from that experience to this day and my emotions are fucked. Speech and cognitive ability has returned to somewhat normal although it's like I have a form of self-induced bi-polar. I wonder if it'll ever be fixed?
 
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