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mufc1

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I have only ever taken 1 pill in a night before and that provides everything I want apart from the length of the experience.. It usually lasts 4 hours and them bam, i am normal within 5 minutes. I have read a lot on redosing and how to do it and it seems the common consensus is to take 1/2 of the initial dose 2 hours after the first. How long would this make the experience last? I haven't had experience with redosing and just want some opinions on it. I have some 6APB to hand and was wondering whether that would be more suitable for me due to its longevity? Thanks!%)
 
The common consesus is NOT to take your redose after two hours, infact that large of a time gap is silly imo. A waste of a roll. You want to take it within the first hour or at MAX 90 minutes after your drop. I would absoulty not reccomend two hours, youll feel like such a bag of smashed assholes when you come down if you wait that long.

Two hours is while your peaking. If you take it while your peaking, it wont hit you untill your starting to come down. If it hits you on the way down, its impossible to get anywhere near the cealing you just hit with your first peak, aka dissapointing, and a waste. If the peak never goes away, and your peak restarts in the middle of your first peak, you get a longer trip, same intensity.
 
I say dont Redose at all.

When i go into a rave or something i spend the first hour or so clean and sober, enjoying the atmosphere and the music.

Then when i do roll it lasts for a good 4 hours sometimes 5.

For this reason, I then usually carry on with Bumps of K . A bump every half an hour or something.
Redosing, is just wrecking it for you next time really
 
You can redoes until you don't feel like your actually rolling anymore. This depends a lot on your tolerance and serotonin available at the time. I say make the first dose large and follow up with half the first dose about an hour or two later. Anything more and the comedown gets much worse. I find the amount of doses seems to make the comedown much worse than actual amounts..
 
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Mdma + Amp pills will usually prolong the Mdma effects
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But it will also increase almost every negative effect of rolling (grinding, comedown, next day etc)

I agree that if your going to re-dose do it within an hour or so. Ive taken a pill, rolled, went and got 2 more like 2-3 hours later, double dropped and barely rolled. Waste of MDMA. I would say the best time to take it would be to drop it right when you know you started rolling, you might still be coming up a bit but when the effects really hit you take that other pill
 
Okay so it seems redosing at 1hr mark sounds good, but still how long will this extend the roll by? cause from the reports I have read on the genuine 6APB powder it lasts around 6-8 hours, just wondering which to use, i obviously lean towards E because of its research and testing behind it, apb is somewhat of an unknown substance regarding health etc
 
I usually drop 1 and then another 45 minutes-1 hour later. I feel like this extends the experience by an hour or so, basically just coming down as the 2nd pill is done affecting you strongly, an hour after the first pill is done affecting you strongly. In this way, I don't wait a long time to redose, but I'm not quite peaking yet either and this method has worked the best for me.
 
Not big-noting myself here, facts only - but I used to use a *lot* of pills and my record was staying up for four full nights on pills only, consumed probably 25-30 pills over the period. By the end of it the pills were kicking in in about 10 minutes (double dropping) and only lasting 30 mins before going back to being awake but messy as hell. They weren't great quality pills but what i'm trying to say is the longer you're up and more pills you have, the shorter they work for and less you get out of them. I didn't know about meth in those days, but thats another story :) these days my schedule is double drop initially (only due to almost all pills in my area being poor-average and having built up a killer tolerance to stimulants) to being with then another pill every 1.5-2 hours, and don't have more than about 4-5 in a standard evening, and perhaps another 1 or 2 if i stay up the whole next day which is rare. I've said it in other msgs but the key with all this is to know when to call it a night and have the willpower to go home and go to bed! SO important!
 
mufc1 said:
Okay so it seems redosing at 1hr mark sounds good, but still how long will this extend the roll by? cause from the reports I have read on the genuine 6APB powder it lasts around 6-8 hours, just wondering which to use, i obviously lean towards E because of its research and testing behind it, apb is somewhat of an unknown substance regarding health etc
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It will extend the peak by about an hour or so, maybe a little more.

You can also try and redose two hours after dropping, this will make the comedown a little more fun.
 
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It all depends on your initial doses. Look at Figure 2 (page 108 ) of the following article: http://www.erowid.org/references/texts/show/382docid345

As you see, since MDMA inhibits it's own metabolism, the blood will become saturated at a certain point and it is non-linear. At the 150mg dose there will be more MDMA in the blood already than at 100mg, even after many hours, so redosing is kind of pointless.


Also keep in mind an initial somewhat large dose may negate the need for redosing and it will also give you an intense peak, BUT it can also make the rest of the roll seem weak or done with by comparison.

I've taken lower doses and it felt like I was rolling for five hours, but when I take a good size initial dose it will seem like it's over in 2-2.5 hours, even though technically I'm still rolling, but damn do I want that intense peak back! (and no amount will get you back to that point--receptors are already down-regulated and serotonin dumped...believe me I've tried! lol)
 
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I say take 150 mg then follow up with like 50 about 30 mins in. IME that gives a nice 6 hour experience, very strong peak, lasting afterglow mild comedown. Anything more and you will feel stupid the next day.

OP - You say "how long 'can' it last". You should say - "How long should it last"

That's how it should last. 6 hours is typically the maximum you can draw out of an experience imo.
 
avcpl said:
It all depends on your initial doses. Look at Figure 2 (page 108 ) of the following article: http://www.erowid.org/references/texts/show/382docid345

As you see, since MDMA inhibits it's own metabolism, the blood will become saturated at a certain point and it is non-linear. At the 150mg dose there will be more MDMA in the blood already than at 100mg, even after many hours, so redosing is kind of pointless.


Also keep in mind an initial somewhat large dose may negate the need for redosing and it will also give you an intense peak, BUT it can also make the rest of the roll seem weak or done with by comparison.

I've taken lower doses and it felt like I was rolling for five hours, but when I take a good size initial dose it will seem like it's over in 2-2.5 hours, even though technically I'm still rolling, but damn do I want that intense peak back! (and no amount will get you back to that point--receptors are already down-regulated and serotonin dumped...believe me I've tried! lol)
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fantastic advice! :)
 
Technically you can redose a few times and have it work. I've done some dumb things before and redose way too much. It still works, but not nearly the same as the first pill.
Redosing two or three times will still have you at a good high. Any more than three is way too much damage for not enough fun. A third pill or dose is still bad but it should still be fun and feel good.
If you redose, redosing once is okay ... two or three hours after ... that's about it that you SHOULD do.
 
You can feel the effects of MDMA if you redose everyday for the next couple of months! What 'effects' you feel is another matter!

If you haven't had a pill in a few months and you drop and you get the familiar 'Waaaaoooooohhhh' feeling, you take another and get a lesser feeling, you take another and your feel simply 'burnt out' you take another and the 'Waaaooooooohhh' feeling has long gone but you still feel 'something. You can continue to take another and another and another but - What physical experience are you feeling? Is this what you want? Is this 'Ecstasy' - If not then STOP!
 
It's kinda different for everyone, you need to see what works for you. Normally I start with 1/2, then as I feel that coming on, I take the other 1/2. (I don't like the floory feeling, so i don't usually take a whole one at once.) A couple hours later, I'll do another 1/2 or 1/4, and just taking pieces like that for quite as long as I want... it's not abnormal for me and my friends to roll for like 10-12 hrs like this! It's just not as HIGH of a roll and then not such a comedown, it's more steady and keeps going.
 
^thanks!

And here's the figure I was referring to before. You can really see how non-linear mdma is. The blood just gets saturated, so I don't know why you would take more after that (look at even the 10 hour mark--it's still higher than the peak of 100mg!)


MDMA (black squares) and HMMA -a metabolite (white squares)
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