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feltlikerolling

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the way i've always taken E was 1 pill then maybe like another 1 one hr later depending on how the first one feels then another one thoughout the night.

i rememeber someone on the forums saying that redosing is bad because you have no more serotonin left over and your forcing your body to send something else out.

any input on this?
 
The longer the MDMA is in your system the more neurotoxic it will be. It all depends on how you do it.

The trouble is when you start coming down and take more to try to roll again, you are introducing more of the drug into your already depleted body and it will stay there long after your serotonin gets low.

So if you are going to re-dose make sure you dont space it out to much. I would suggest one hour, two max.
 
Once you've hit your peak, you're not going to get any higher than that. So re-dosing after the peak is a bad idea. However, most "good" pills these days only contain 60-90mg's of MDMA. By taking that much, you're getting your serotonin levels up there. Maybe another pill (this brings the total to anywhere from 120-180mg's of MDMA), will put you where you want to be. Anything over the 3-4 pill mark is just asking for tweaking out. A very good friend of mine once told me, "Know your drugs and your doses."
 
It's generally considered that a second dose of around half the usual amount (120mg ish for usual) sometime just after the peak is safe enough. This will just extend the experience.
This dosing schedule is what is used in the FDA approved MDMA therapy trials.
 
All this advice of double dropping is atrocious.

On topic of re-dosing, I do every time. It just depends on the strength of the first one. It's a mind blowing one, I won't take another but I play it by ear so to speak.
 
thats really bad...
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eat a lot of parmisan cheese wich has tyrosine.....good for ur neurotransmitters, take any other ani oxydant u have, 5 grams of piracetam, a few 5-htp, feew drops of vliu or any other anxiolitic

have the best ngiht (and very luckyly sex) of ur life.

drink lots of water...go pee, take something to make u sleep,marijuana or benzos, eat sumthing with sugar......like cookies and go to fucking sleep.

stayin awake on mdn is extremely harmful...ur body needs to sleep.
next morning, a god breakfast......lots of water to purify ur lymphatic system
and chillax with friends.
mdma depression is sum heavyshit and u should be carefull.
 
Redosing never seems to last nearly as long or hit you as hard in my experience. I personally prefer to semi-double drop by redosing ruight before my first peak. If I wait until I'm already starting to comedown the second high is very short-lived and I feel like shit afterwards.
 
GenericMind said:
Redosing never seems to last nearly as long or hit you as hard in my experience. I personally prefer to semi-double drop by redosing ruight before my first peak. If I wait until I'm already starting to comedown the second high is very short-lived and I feel like shit afterwards.
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good advice :D

I usually do this, but always end up redosing after about 3 hours, but i never quite get back up so i redose again.. etc etc :| :(
 
I generally pop two pills right off the bat and don't bother with the redose, but I've been able to "redose" about 12-18 after the first comedown. The second time half the amount has twice the effect. I don't get crashes like most people do, so doing this never bothered me, but it tears some of my friends to shreds.
 
just dont rail em, i used to pop one, rail one, and save one for a hour or two later. snorting it just makes you peak really hard and come down really fast so its a waste. redosing is ok as long as you dont go overboard with it. and get plenty of sleep and eat good before you roll, it will keep you feeling better for longer.
 
GenericMind said:
Redosing never seems to last nearly as long or hit you as hard in my experience. I personally prefer to semi-double drop by redosing ruight before my first peak. If I wait until I'm already starting to comedown the second high is very short-lived and I feel like shit afterwards.
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This has been my SOP of recent. I find the experience to be much smoother and pleasurable if I eat another 100-120mg on the tail end of the come-up from the first dose.
 
RexHunt said:
All this advice of double dropping is atrocious.

On topic of re-dosing, I do every time. It just depends on the strength of the first one. It's a mind blowing one, I won't take another but I play it by ear so to speak.
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Umm why?!?!?!?!?!?

If you take one pill all night normally, then double dropping is stupid.

Give me one good reason otherwise, as to why double dropping is stupid? Even if it was a high potency pill, 150-180mg...double dropping would still only pump you full of 300-360mg. 300-360mg is probably not going to kill you...300mg was reported to have killed one person and I believe there were many extenuating circumstances.

Considering most pills in the US are nowhere near 150mg let alone 120mg, you are probably not putting yourself at much risk. Most pills are probably around 70mg and I'd guess that I'm being generous with that statement.

Don't double drop a pill you've never taken before...but if it's one that you know is clean and you've taken it before and know roughly how strong it is...then it's your call to double drop. I almost always double drop...there have only been 3 pills I've ever come across that I didn't double drop after testing them.

And WTF, re-dosing probably way more damaging to your brain than double dropping is. I've double dropped some pretty damn strong ones, rolled my ass off for 6 hours and felt fine the next day. I could take 3 pills separately throughout the night and my roll sucks compared to a double drop and my come down is horrible.

Most of the brain damage caused by MDMA occurs later in the experienece after your serotonin has been depleated...oxidized dopamine starts filling up the areas in the brain where serotonin is supposed to be and kills or damages those brain cells (least that's my very rough interpretation of how it works)

Either way, re-dosing should only be done in the first hour to hour and a half after the initial drop...though I guarantee you will have a much better roll with 2 initially and 1 an hour and half into it. Don't re-dose all night, that's just fucking retarded...you're just asking for a world of trouble and a shitty as come down.
 
PS- Most of your serotonin is depleated within the first 3-4 hours of the experience, maybe sooner...if you keep poppin pills past that point, the effects you will be getting from the pills should start to resemble amphetamines much more and be nowhere near as pleasant as MDMA should be and will also be causing yourself a bunch more physical harm.
 
stoneddave said:
Umm why?!?!?!?!?!?

If you take one pill all night normally, then double dropping is stupid.

Give me one good reason otherwise, as to why double dropping is stupid? Even if it was a high potency pill, 150-180mg...double dropping would still only pump you full of 300-360mg. 300-360mg is probably not going to kill you...300mg was reported to have killed one person and I believe there were many extenuating circumstances.

Considering most pills in the US are nowhere near 150mg let alone 120mg, you are probably not putting yourself at much risk. Most pills are probably around 70mg and I'd guess that I'm being generous with that statement.

Don't double drop a pill you've never taken before...but if it's one that you know is clean and you've taken it before and know roughly how strong it is...then it's your call to double drop. I almost always double drop...there have only been 3 pills I've ever come across that I didn't double drop after testing them.

And WTF, re-dosing probably way more damaging to your brain than double dropping is. I've double dropped some pretty damn strong ones, rolled my ass off for 6 hours and felt fine the next day. I could take 3 pills separately throughout the night and my roll sucks compared to a double drop and my come down is horrible.

Most of the brain damage caused by MDMA occurs later in the experienece after your serotonin has been depleated...oxidized dopamine starts filling up the areas in the brain where serotonin is supposed to be and kills or damages those brain cells (least that's my very rough interpretation of how it works)

Either way, re-dosing should only be done in the first hour to hour and a half after the initial drop...though I guarantee you will have a much better roll with 2 initially and 1 an hour and half into it. Don't re-dose all night, that's just fucking retarded...you're just asking for a world of trouble and a shitty as come down.
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Stonedave, i completely agree with you. If our pills nowadays had 120-150 mg each, then double dropping would be just going over the top. But when our pills do not contain more than..hmm maximum 90, and thats a max, an average "good" pills is like 70mg, then double dropping is just like taking 1 strong pill. Which, if u read about ecstasy, the recommended dose is 120mg, and then redose with like half an hour later. So i would think that resosing like 4 times a night with 70mg pills is more damaging and a less rewarding experience than double dropping and not redosing more than once an hour later. OF course if u have no tolerance and u just need 60-70mg to have a full experience, then no need to double drop. But if u are one of those people that need to keep redosing to have the full experience, then u r just wasting time and serotonin.
 
hey thanks for all the relies.
when i was at edc
i took 1 blue buddha around 10 and i didnt really feel anything yet. so then at 1045 my cousin says 'hey i dont feel anything yet' so then we decided to take another pill and bam it hits us hard at 11. we were rolling pretty hard until arould 1230 where my roll almost stopped or something. this is when i took a orange buddha. no noticeable change then i tried another purple deisel at 130, nothing. any ideas on why my roll didnt last long or come back.

from now on i think ill try double dropping then 1 more another 1.5 hrs later.
ill try not to redose after 2 hrs after the initial drop.

what about 1 pill then 1 pill an hr later and then 1 more one hr later. i was thinking at edc that i dropped to closely together and my roll came hard and fast. then it went away fast. i want to spread out the roll a bit and make it a bit more chill. the rest of that night was pretty sober in my mind.

any ideas?
 
i think it was a speed bomb, youre supposed to roll for longer than that. hell even when my tolerance was high as hell i still rolled here and there for at least 3 hours.
 
Its been my experience, that, the cleaner the pill, the shorter it lasts. Thats because people are used to the prolonged, speedy high they get with average pills. Then when a Clean Pill comes along, (like the Buddahs) they are baffeled as to why their roll was suddenly cut short. Same with molly.

As corny as this sounds, there are 2 types of people in the ecstasy world. The ones that accept the comedowns, and the ones that don't.
 
so what is better, dropping 2 at the same time, or dropping 1 then 1 an hour later?
 
if you've never taken this pill before, just do 1 to test the overall strength of it. If you don't get pretty fucked up (2-3 hour peak) off 1 pill, then I'd say to take 1.5 or 2 at the same time. But only do this after you know roughly how strong the pill is. I've double dropped some MDxx high ones, and triple dropped some med-high ones and it's a lot crazier of an experience than most people would expect.

If you don't get at least a 2-3 hour peak off of 1, take 1.5 or 2 at the same time. If you want to redose again, take one more as soon as you feel your peak starting to diminish, you'll probably peak another 2 hours and then comedown and go to sleep. I do this almost everytime I roll (unless I have really good ones) and I always have great rolls with almost no comedown. My comedowns are bad when I keep redosing and my rolls suck when I redose more than once.

PS-I personally think it's a waste to take 1 and then another an hour later...the point is to have a high initial dose, not a high dose spread out over time. Taking 120mg initially would produce stronger effects over a longer period of time than 60mg to start and 60mg an hour later.
 
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