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Rectal DMT & MAOI - 2nd Time - "To be continued..."

Jamshyd

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Hahahaha.

Now isn’t that cute.

This is my second experience with DMT, and the first beyond threshold effects.

I have not tripped for a long time, and haven’t been considering it, even. Yet, for some unknown reason, DMT decided to get into my system today. I thought, alright. I’m in a good mood – certainly better than a few days ago since my depressive episode suddenly lifted yesterday.

So I went on and measured out just a bit less than a tablespoon (like 3/4 of it) of Syrian Rue, as per Shulgin’s suggestion in TiHKAL. I wanted the bare-minimum of MAOIs in my system also remember that I will be taking it rectally). I ground them up and boiled, reduced, and then strained, to produce an orange liquid that stained yellow everywhere like turmeric. I then set this aside. As I did the above, I chewed and swallowed some shavings of fresh ginger root, just in case.

A couple of hours later, I had the house all for myself, and I decided that it was time. So, I loaded the abovementioned Rue-juice in a needle-less syringe, and up went.

I then set out to prepare the DMT half. I had a bag that contained about 20g of ground up Diplopterys cabrerana. I eyeballed (oh give me a break!) 5g and boiled in water + lemon juice for a few minutes, with non-stop stirring. By now, about 15mins had passed, and I was feeling the very subtle light-headedness of the Rue. I let the DMT-juice sit for a bit and then strained to produce a foul-smelling muddy liquid.

Now that 20mins had passed, I was certain that the MAOi was in effect, and so loaded up the syringe and, once again, up it went. Unlike the rue-juice, which I pretty did not feel down there, this stuff felt alien. There was some push to evacuate, but I resisted, and it subsided after a few minutes. I then went to unplug the phone (my worst enemy), and put on some music (Enigma – for reasons that you’ll see in a minute).

The come-up was, as expected, full of doubts. Did I take enough? Did I take too much? …and other related anxieties that my fellow trippers are probably familiar with. Not much later (I’d say 10mins), the reply came as colourful tracers/trailers. At this point, my mind was still quite clear, and my body unaffected besides the light-headedness described earlier.

Over the next 20mins, the OEVs did not intensify, but that was ok, since I hardly get any OEVs from any drug. Meanwhile, more interesting things were happening behind my eyelids. There was a lot of colour, but no “light” (those who took DPT or LSD know what I’m referring to). It was actually closer to mushrooms than anything else, but much less “dirty”. The same went to the body – no “electricity” (again, DPT, LSD), but feelings of random vibrations and extreme alterations between warmth and shivering (a la psilocin). And again, although sometimes a bit alarming, the bodyload never became uncomfortable as it did with mushrooms. At one point, a bout of diarrhea became unbearable, and seeing that ½ an hour had passed since ingestion, I thought it would be safe to evacuate without losing any drug. And so I visted my old trip-buddy, the bathroom. Surprisingly, there was no nausea at all, leading me to expect that it is a very specific reaction in the stomach rather than the CNS. And yet, it seems that regardless of which orifice in your body you decide to purge from, a purge is inevitable. After the deed was done, I felt incredibly light and cleansed. Behind my closed eyelids were huge orange snowflakes of infinite complexity floating in endless blackness…

I went back to my bed (I had spent the entire thing lying down under covers, as I prefer to do with most trips), and continued listening to Enigma. The choice of music was because Enigma is one thing I have been continuously listening to since a very young age, and so every song is capable of activating several memories from my past. And so memories were revisited. I will not lie to you, there was no immense revelation. I did visit some recent disturbing memories and, in DMT-space, the “disturbing” connotation was all but gone. I am hoping that this is a kind of psychoanalytical “untangling” of unnecessary disturbing memories. I certainly do feel like a small load has been moved off of my back.

Anyway, at around 40mins, I figured I had reached the peak, I definitely felt physically uncoordinated. There were a couple times where time would seem to stop and I’d fall into a black-hole of some kind. I was feeling waves (more watery than the “winds” of LSD) of…DMT, I guess, moving me through a sequence of visuals. There were glowing reptile-like things crawling around at high-speed. Eventually one of them plunged into my body and I could feel it =).

As I approached the 45min mark, I was transported through rapidly-changing landscapes (lots of sky and stars involved), until it fixed upon one landscape. It was actually a familiar one that I visited several times in my life – a place in the middle east (Jordan, to be specific) where one could see the great rift where the Jordan river runs. Standing on the Jordanian side, one can look across the flat valley onto the mountains of Israel/Palestine on the other side. I was standing amongst a gathering of one-legged “people”, all pointing in bewilderment at something. I followed their pointing to find that the sky was cracking up and the stars were falling through! A light started exploding from within the crack in the horizon... a picture of Jesus was lowered (as if it were hung from a machine from above) in front of the light to cover it, but it was shattered by the explosion! Another picture lowered - that of the king of Jordan! (I giggled) - and it too got shatterd. Then time seemed to freeze for a bit, and...

Click, click. My ears popped.

The whole thing disappeared. I opened my eyes. I was back in reality. Within 2 minutes I felt the drug largely gone. 15mins later I am totally sober and writing this.

So I guess this one has a sense of humour. I have no idea what would have happened if the light exploded all the way.

To be continued… ;).


Note: I strongly believe that the rectal administration contributed to the shortness of the experience (no more than 50 mins) and the abrupt return to baseline (I wish all psychedelics did that!).
 
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OK!! I did it. The server didn't allow me to c/p the report (giving an error message), so I did it paragraph by paragraph and apparently it had a problem with my 5th paragraph so I rewrote it.

Its all good now :)
 
Jamshyd, that was an awesome report. Thanks for submitting it.

I'm curious about your self-therapy comments. Now that you've gained distance from the experience, do you notice any deepening of psychological effects?

Have you ever considered visiting a prof. psychedelic therapist (viz. MAPS)?

I'm very interested in trying oral DMT again, because as you say, it allows a very unique space to explore one's inner psyche. Like none other. Excellence.
 
Very interseting and very funny. I don't believe that the DMT/Haramine molecules possess humor, but you obviously do.

Did you notice body sensations that coincided with the visuals? My one and only oral exp had me pulled into the vortex where I was twisted, pulled, stretched, turned inside out and outside in and over into and on top of myself. It felt like I was wrung out. It was the most beautiful thing I have ever felt, period. My body and my mood were in a hightened state of joy and near bliss for weeks.

I also like that you mention a possible corellation between overall effect time and rectal admin. An hour in DMT space is plenty (where as with smoking, 10 to 15 minutes does not seem enough).

Thank you sir.
 
Haha analhuasca....classic.
Jamshyd do you think MHRB would be OK to take rectally?
I absolutely loathe the taste of it and dont think Ill do it again orally, rectally may be the way to go
 
Thanks for the feedback, everyone :)

Samadhi: I have indeed tried working with psychedelics in a therapeutic setting (not too professional, mind you. Though the friend I tried this is a psychology student - generally jungian). I found 2C-D to be the most useful (indeed, priceless) medicine for talking to people (who are on a similar dose of it) and analyse through them. Better than MDMA.

Actually, I rarely take psychedelics for anything other than therapy/spiritual reasons. For other purposes, there are more efficient drugs to have fun with. I found Ayahuasca at this level to be surprisingly more phenethylamine-like than tryptamine! I find that generally, phens are more psychological while tryptamines are more divinity-oriented.

I'd be open for trying a professional psychedelic therapy session, however it doesn't seem to be easy to find one in Canada - at least not in the eastern parts.

Breakingset: Nope, thats what was interesting with this trip - the ego (and my body perception) were left intact. But I know what you're talking about - I find that dissociatives tend to do this to me. I experienced it twice - once, I believe it was the first time I IVed Ketamine, my body became a cube, and I simply lost all memory of my body feeling anything other than a cube. That was certainly insightful and I don't think it is possible to reproduce that particular perception.

I also experienced something very similar to what you mention when I took Ketamine on top of a medium-dose of PCP. Unfortunately, as with all my other PCP experiences, it did not feel "special" in any way.

Nofx: it seems that the jury is still out on this one. I have read reports of rectal MHRB (ground up, of course). I never tried it myself since my last trip with LSAs (oral) was too overwhelming and I had no desire to touch them again since then (about 5 years ago).
 
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