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Rectal absorption of opioid/APAP drugs

jjj678

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SWIM is curious if it is safe to plug higher amounts of APAP because absorption of APAP in the rectum is much lower and slower than the oral route. SWIM looked at some studies and found that it generally takes a much higher doses of APAP to reach therapeutic levels and since opioid absorption does not change whether it is taken orally or rectally you can get a higher dose. For example, since SWIM weighs about 80 kg swim would need 2800 mg of APAP to reach therapeutic levels based off a conservative dosing of 35mg/kg, that would result in taking roughly 8 pills of Percocet rather than 3 if taken orally based off the 1000 mg oral limit for APAP.

Serum paracetamol concentrations in adult volunteers following rectal administration
M. E. Stocker1 and J. E. Montgomery
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Department of Anaesthesia, South Devon Healthcare Trust, Torquay, Devon TQ2 7AA, UK 1Present address: Department of Anaesthesia, Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital, Exeter EX2 5DW, UK

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Abstract

Paracetamol is usually given in adults at a dose of 10–20 mg kg–1 orally or rectally. Work in children suggests that doses of 40 mg kg–1 are needed to provide therapeutic concentrations when this drug is used by the rectal route. We have investigated the dose of rectal paracetamol needed to achieve serum concentrations within the accepted therapeutic range of 10–20 µg ml–1 in adults. Ten healthy adult volunteers received increasing doses of rectal paracetamol (15, 25, 35, and 45 mg kg–1). Following suppository administration, serum paracetamol concentrations were measured half hourly to 4 h then hourly to 8 h. Sustained concentrations within our therapeutic range were achieved with 35 and 45 mg kg–1. Maximum measured concentrations were 12.5 (10–16), 16.5 (14–20), and 20 (17.5–23) µg ml–1, median (inter‐quartile range) after 25, 35, and 45 mg kg–1, respectively. We conclude that doses of 35–45 mg kg–1 of rectal paracetamol are needed to achieve sustained therapeutic plasma concentrations in healthy adult volunteers.

Br J Anaesth 2001; 87: 638–40
http://bja.oxfordjournals.org/content/87/4/638.full
 
why would you do that, you do realize the amount of liquid you need to plug is more than you can fit up there. Why would you not CWE???

Btw, please PLEASE don't use swim, it makes people not want to reply cause it's super confusing
 
Agree with bennyZA... I don't really get why you'd do that?

I see you're new to BlueLight, but as bennyZA also points out, it's against the forum rules as it provides no protection to the poster and is just quite annoying to read.

Why would you not just do a cold water extraction on whatever opioid you're looking at?
 
Yeah, just CWE it. Its SO easy.

Crush pills.
Get a baby syringe (needle-less, got mine from the pharmacy, they didnt even charge me.)
Draw up water
Squirt on crushed pills in a short glass
Mix
Sit in a cool place (i dont even bother w/freezer) for 15 mins <<<<<<<<<<< Room temp CWE is not safe. PLease use the fridge or for better results the freezer.
Get another short glass, cover it with a thin material (i use an old shirt), make an indentation in it, pour in drug/water mix
Onnce it all goes through, wring it out
Draw it up & plug

Honestly its so easy. Theres no reason to take all that nasty APAP into your system.
 
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My bad, i should've clarified-when i said cool place i meant the fridge or, what ive been using lately, on my window ledge BEHIND plastic storm sheeting. Im in the north right now & its COLD, when i take the glass back out its ice cold. Didnt mean to imply room temp CWE is ok.
 
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