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Recent Heroin Cut with Benzo...

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I'm faily certain I have a Benzo tainted batch of heroin #3 UK East Of England Ragion.

IT's very potent and tend to knock me unconscious during things like standing up whilst washinh my hands from the bathroom and me having mild amnesia afterwards which isn't normal in terms of opiate related high's. It bubbles a little bit when it burns on foil which is different but tastes fairly normal to gear.

I smoke and have done for about 6 years so I know every grade there is of No. 3.

What do you guys think about this? Is it dangerous or stronger?
 
I smoke and have done for about 6 years so I know every grade there is of No. 3.
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Sounds like you should know as well.

Like jay said it sounds stronger. Youre nodding out.

Other than that what makes you believe its mixed with a benzo? It just seems so unlikely and irregular.
 
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Other than that what makes you believe its mixed with a benzo? It just seems so unlikely and irregular.
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Yeah that's what I'm wondering. What makes you think that?

I don't think amnesia is unusual for strong opiates. If I'm on a heroin binge I can text/email/post stuff I have little to no memory of doing. I've also texted people complete nonsense which was hard to explain.

By knocking you unconscious whilst washing your hands do you mean you fall out or just nod?

Personally just sounds like it's a lot stronger.
 
We seem to be forgetting that most benzos aren't water-soluble to any appreciable degree.

This is rather unlikely.
 
benzos dont smoke though. I remember a long while ago someone had their dope tested and it was straight barbs. though I don't know if barbs smoke.
 
I hate that. It can definitely be very strong and dangerous. Ive also had such dope a few times, dope that just made me nod like crazy, all sleepy and tired , little to no euphoria. Either it was sleeping pills or benzos, maybe both, Im not sure but Its horrible IMO. The worst thing is and I think in this case the word is correct, most junkies like it. All they care is to get wasted out of their mind. More and more I notice that. Very few opiate users still cherish and appreciate that pure original opiate high. Today it seems its all about getting smashed. I hate that. But it seems it sells very well unfortunately. Id suggest you try finding someone else, though usually the batch gets used up and new dope comes in. Luckily, In my exp. anyway, such sh*tty dope is not on the market very often (yet?).
 
I have smoked heroin in the past and when doing a piss test benzos showed up in the test, even though at that time I had never even taken a valium or any benzo in my life.
 
I live in Ireland and since the drought in Nov 2010 the quality of the gear has never fully recovered. I am on methadone and I have to do a drugs test once every two weeks. At times my drug tests have come back positive for benzo's even though I haven't taken Benzo's, I only use heroin.

Numerous people say that benzos can't be smoked. But all I know is that I smoke gear and sometimes come back positive for benzos's. I remember someone suggested that liquid/IV benzo could be used. But I know little about benzo's, so I don't know?

Since the drought there has been all sorts of weird gear going around. There is very little heroin in the heroin these days...... :(
 
Have always been deeply dubious about this "cut with benzos" stuff. Just makes no sense. As mentioned above, most benzos are not water soluble so don't break down if prepped for IV. You would notice all the undissolved gunk in the spoon. There are some water soluble benzos but they tend to be comparatively rare and expensive so not ideal as cuts at all.

Am all but positive benzos are not smokable either. Have tried in the past cos I do <3 me a lil experimentation. Just burns black and absolutely stinks. Again, you'd notice it if you tried it. And it had no effect I noticed anyway. Other than making me cough up half a lung after a single puff.

Sounds to me like just better quality gear is all. All the effects you describe are consistent with heroin. Benzos just make zero sense as a cut. Perhaps an anti-histamine? No idea if any of 'em are smokable but is a common cut in heroin both added by dealers and users to potentiate the effects of the gear. Would also explain your symptoms if there is such a thing as a smokable anti-histamine.

EDIT: Google informs me that several drugs can cause false positives for benzos including amitryptaline, buperenorphine, trazadone, certain anti-psychotics and even some NSAIDs. Several of those would make some kinda sense used as a cut to potentiate weak gear. Whether any of 'em are smokable or not I don't know but thought it worth mentioning.

Can Drug X, Y, Z Cause False Positives for Benzodiazepines?
 
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I've noticed some stronger heroin around Bristol from my usual sources recently, giving me a nod and when I sleep I REALLY SLEEP for a long time not even moving from the position I fell asleep in, not usual for me, and also not remembering when I'd fallen asleep, very similar to taking large doses of benzos. However, like shambles said, benzos are not water soluble, I think the only one that is is temazepam.....though this needs citation as they say on wikipedia.

It COULD be possible that it is just some gear with actual opiate in it, as i've been held for longer after using to the point of even forgetting to go and get my daily dose of methadone, which usually I cannot do as I end up sweating for it even after using.
 
^^temmies are not water soluble. the use of it IV was in the UK with the "gellies" that pretty much got pulled due to people losing life and most notably limbs from shooting the gel.

midazolam is the most well known water soluble benzo and is somewhat exotic/rare. I don't see dealers pushing versed anywhere though it may be more popular elsewhere.
 
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