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Rebelling against the world - mind control

Pyro

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It's all about you. I have been revealed. I have been turned inside out. Only a small, quiet place do I keep fully to myself and her (wherever she is now). Forever I have left that self-indulgent pain behind me.
That river of blood. That wretched existence that stifled me at every turn. I turn to it and spit on it and do a back flip over it. I pour the gasoline and flick the lit match into the puddle that drowns it to death. That terrible, destructive, heart wrenching pain did nothing but ruin me. I refuse it. I will to have no part in it. It is my only desire to live life free.
Did I do it on my own? No. Am I complete now? I can always add to this creation. Did God help? It was all God. I did nothing but believe.
"How sad it is that he was too weak to do it on his own. He had to resort to that primal 'God' idea"
How sad for you my friends, that you have no hope. Your future is limited in your mind to what takes place in the here and now. How sad to live a life always remembering that you are alone, without a reason, without a purpose. How sad it is to see people become more and more self-destructive, in the name of comfort and contentedness, not even knowing the damage they are doing to themselves.
"Who is *he* to say that I am damaging myself?"
I look into your eyes and I listen to your voice. I ask you questions and I listen to your answers and how you avoid the deeper issues. I understand what you cover up. I understand what your masks look like - You know, the ones with the happy faces painted on them? The masks with the semblence of peace etched into the plastic. I understand, because I have been there. I've been there to the depths with the deepest. I look back into those same eyes and as I love myself, I give to you the same love.
"This is the way of life I have choosen, you can't possibly claim that your choice is the best"
If you struggle with what I say, about Jesus Christ being who he said he was, then I wonder why you struggle so hard? I wonder if it is some kind of subconsious knowledge of Christ being the way, the truth, and the life. I know because I have the comparison, I have the notes. From my past, and from the here and now. I wonder if you've ever looked up the evidence supporting the claim to divinity Christ took? I wonder if you've ever seen the arguments of the theologians that have been studying this topic for 20 or more years? I wonder why you haven't been shown this information?
Is your mind under the control of this world? This world tells you that whatever path you take, it's "All good". As long as you find some kind of happiness, any kind of happiness will do. The more genuine the better... JUST DON'T BELIEVE IN CHRIST - that would be foolish and stupid and ignorant and.... ... ...
Pyro - Always the rebel against the world, you know me.
note: our decisions are our own. The innermost center of my being I have given sole control over to Jesus Christ. He leads the direction of my life. He teaches me every lesson I learn. I have never been as inspired as I am recently. I have never felt more comfort. I have never felt so confident in anything I have ever experienced, until now.
 
Beatifully written dear. You are so adept at words, it's mind-blowing.
I am happy for you that you have found a path that brings you peace. That you are at a place where your heart and soul are what you want them to be, that you are who you want to be. Please don't think that not having belief in the christian god leaves part of someone empty. I am whole, I have peace. Don't pity me, spirituality is not limited to one belief system, it encompasses so much. And thank you, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for the love you offer each person in the world. That is what makes up the great things, love like that. :)
 
I didn't mean to get into a debate...
but I have to lend a response.
The problem with that is simply this. What Jesus claimed is exclusionary. You're either with him, or you're not with him. I do not doubt that you have found peace and contentedness within yourself, but please do not rule out the posibility that there may be only one true path to be accepted by God. If you do not believe in God, then that is your choice.
I have just read too much evidence, as I said, to not believe.
"The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel
brings home a huge ammount of evidence to support the "case", so to speak. I would reserve judgment about there being no *single* path without reading this book. The buddists claim that there is only one way. The same goes for the Hindu belief, the Muslim belief, and most all other belief structures avaliable to us. The only belief structure, that I know of, which says that there is no one way is called Postmodernism.
Postmodernism is the religion many people function under, without even knowing they are actually doing so. It is the belief that allows people to pull from any faith system, and create their own bag of spirituality (so to speak). The problem is simply this statement.
"The truth is there is no truth"
Examine this statement for a moment. The problem is that it contradicts itself. If the truth is that there is no truth, then that cannot be the truth, because there is no truth. So the truth cannot be that there is no truth... unfortunatly it's not that simple.
So you see... I do not think that everyone is deserving of my pity. If you've found a way that suits your needs at the time... then there's nothing my pity can change, so it's fruitless. I absolutely reserve my pity in that regard. Rather, whenever my mind roams over the idea about how some of the people I love the most dearly refuse to accept the information that has been made very clear to me, it makes ME sad. For a short time, before I realize that I have no control over the situation... etc. :)
Now, is it all about love or is it all about what God has done to reach out to the fallen mankind? Love is massivly important, but beyond that I believe that the free gift God makes avaliable to us all is even more important, because of it's emmenence (sp? maybe it's immenence?) hehe.
well that's it. Like I said, I just wanted to write, so from now on I will reserve anymore rebuttles.
Thank you dearly for your response. Your compliments are well recieved and I thank you :)
Pyro- Tim
 
hahah! Noodle, you really do crack me up. You're right, my father did choose this path, but so have more than a billion other people on this earth. In fact, the path I choose ended up being full of too much abuse. I was too objective to decieve myself any further... you see.
So as far as me choosing my father's path... it's fun phsychology, but it's baseless and ignores the truth of the matter ;)
ttyl
PTyirmo
 
Of course it is baseless, except maybe as a point of simple fact.
I missed playing the game at this level.
Much love and respect to you, always.
[ 21 July 2002: Message edited by: Noodle ]
 
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