Reason(s) for rave club shutting down

[ashstorm]

adventjah

;_;

Seeing Adventjah being bought up makes me cry that I missed the glory days of the rave scene..

I came into the scene around the last Arena rave in brissy in 08..

The friends I have now love to remind me of the RNA raves.. Even the random sticker at my local laundromat promoting a club called Dilate in the valley is mocking me...

WTB - Time Travel Machine

 

[prodj]

Too many music festivals. - I only make so much and I can’t party all the time. But as much as I do hate them I still attend as I’m guaranteed to see some old faces and hopefully catch a decent line-up.

Lack of good drugs to heighten the regular club experience. – Gone are the days where almost everyone was on the same level and by a few weeks you knew most of the regular people of a club.

Misuse of GHB highlighted by media coverage. – Gave the scene a bad rep and put it on the radar leading to other annoying things. Like no more Kryal FFS!

No pass-outs at most venues. - Possibly due to fear of GHB misuse & violence related problems.

The People have moved on- Perhaps it was just our generation (age group) and the kind of people majority of us were at the time the regular rave clubs were at their peak. Ask a previous generation (anyone older) and they always seem to say the scene was better before.
Maybe our age group liked the regular clubs and what it had, the now generation like these big events so that’s what the scene has now become.

 

[belarki]

;_;

Seeing Adventjah being bought up makes me cry that I missed the glory days of the rave scene..

I came into the scene around the last Arena rave in brissy in 08..

The friends I have now love to remind me of the RNA raves.. Even the random sticker at my local laundromat promoting a club called Dilate in the valley is mocking me...

WTB - Time Travel Machine

Oh man sorry to hear that, you really missed out. Some of the Advenjah events were insane!!!! Public enemy at a Rave? Showground Rides? OMFG good times! Not to mention the sweaty nights at the Arena with the old system 6, time tunnel, dark side, etc gigs. Going out in the valley now, times have certainly changed

 

[HiLiKuS]

there would prob be a good chance that we crossed paths in that dark n hot arena belarki as I was at most of those raves during those happy days

 

[Seith]

Yea man it's happening to a club in Perth. The Rise, it used to go off back in the days Of MDMA being good quality but now that there is none around and it's turned to shit so has the club it's just died in the ass over the last year.

100% agree with this. I used to go all the time back when the half decent pills were around, suddenly anything worth taking disappeared and I didn't bother going for almost a year. Went there a couple of months ago and the whole atmosphere has changed. It's gone from friendly to fucked, too many weekend warriors getting as drunk as they can.

 

[my innerself]

I never really thought about this idea but it kinda makes sense. When oz had an abundance of awesome pingers me and my mates would always meet up at the club and get our mung on. As the quality declined I stopped going to doof clubs cause the music wasn't as appealing when only drunk, stoned or on gear. Makes sense that the club attendance would be dropping considerably.

 

[Jordan`]

Full blown nostalgia bringing up those Brisbane events! Oh well something new will hopefully come up or I'm just growing up too fast

 

[PsiloSubNaut]

Good thread. I have to agree with the overall sentiment...

Gone are the days of accidentally bumping into some massive roided freak and only receiving a friendly hug or being asked to dance with his gorgeous gf while he went to buy you both drinks

Now days I have nearly had my nose broken for brushing past someone in the crowd!

I have pretty much given up on clubbing other than the odd small psy gigs which seem to attract a positively vibed crowd for the most part.

There is still PLUR to be found at some of the lesser known outdoor events, but even the best doofs just aren't what they were in the mid 00's when MDMA was cheap and abundant.

 

[perthboy]

Yeah I went to the carpark everyone would know about and sadly only recognised 2-3 people there compared to the anywhere up to 20-30 people.
I've just stopped bothering altogether with that side of town

 

[silentangst]

too many weekend warriors getting as drunk as they can.

Agree. Hate drunk people when you're trying to roll. Not that we can in Perth. Last time I was at Rise with a decent vibe was for Showtek, that was amazing.

 

[psytaco]

I for one know that I hardly bother going out to clubs anymore since the massive decline in decent googs. So I'm sure there are alot of people who are the same.

In melbourne, the more popular bars are (and the ones that make the most money) are the ones that catter to the electro crowd. Many of them do do drugs, but there are also plenty who go to try and pick up or get their drink on. If anything these clubs may do better business, because more people are buying drinks.

i don't really bother with events in the city anymore either (speed just doesn'ct cut it compared to MDMA). I used to party at the big rave clubs when I was like 19 (everyone in melbs will know the ones I'm talking about). But lets face it, the music there was always kind of shit. When hardstyle got big, it got even shitter. So now you have these clubs, which were mainly only popular with people who wanted to get fucked up, with an extreme lack of pills. That was the main reason anyone went. sure the more hardcore elements will still be on the G and Ice (which is too expensive for most people though). But that will only lead to a further nasty agressive element (and these clubs often had this in the first place).

clubs come and go. And I am afraid hardstyle and hardtrance are going out of fashion fast. It seems to be electro-house is by far the biggest genre. Psytrance has certainly died abit, but doofs will continue on due to their unique crowd and the unique experience they offer, and because LSD is still in good supply (though I am getting a little over the strong emphasis on prog and minimal).

Events are becoming huge, and venues have to compete with huge events popping up monthly in melbourne (weekly in summer). For most people, it makes sense just to save up for an event, where they are guaranteed good music, big crowds, and maybe save enough money for a gram of speed or coke.

So yeah, electro will go strong. the rest are dying out.

 

[footscrazy]

Personally I think it's just about general trends in what music is popular, more than a lack of drugs. The hardstyle clubs in Melbourne had their day in the early 2000's and have been going downhill since then imo. Back then, house/electro clubs didn't even exist (or at least 'house' and 'electro' was very different than it is today). It seems to me that in the last few years there's been a growing popularity in trance (as opposed to hard trance) - but trance suits big festivals where they can afford to get big name dj's. What's popular in music is always changing, regardless of what drugs are available.

 

[Crankinit]

Yeah I can't speak for the country as a whole, but in Adelaide trance has made a comeback in a big way over the last 2 years, not so much for weekly club nights, but it's packing out gigs once or twice a month and starting to pull big names to our relatively small city.

I think the shift away from clubbing and towards festivals has made a big difference, it's easier to get a 10 - 40k crowd for electro than it is for hard dance, and less people are going to smaller parties.

 

[andyturbo]

Melbourne: All future kryal raves stopped due to blowouts, All Qdance events banned because of blowouts, ID&T events (Trance Energy) gone because of blowouts. I use GHB but have never at mainstream events and never blown out at a club or event before. Fuck you too all the people that kept doing it time after time at these events (dont know if theres any on this bored but u know who u are if there is) All the events listed above were always packed, And so much fun, and gone now because of inconsidorate fucks that dont think about anyone else but themselfs. Was discusted to walk outside to have a smoke in the smoking area and there being not one, but 3 ambulances lined up in McKillip st out the frount of 3d at 5am in the morning last week. Had a nice view of paramedics performing CPR threw the window, not to mention what would have been happening in the other two. And this wasn't even a packed night.

Back too topic: Yeah its happening all over man. Melbournes gone down the shitter. I beleive the lack of MDMA has had a huge impact. Everyone had said the rave scene was dead, then when there was a constant supply off white hearts in late 08 for a few months too pretty much every circle, the clubs such as 3D, Bubble and phd all off a sudden doubled in numbers and the PLUR was back, at least for the time. So i do beleive MDMA decline has played a huge factor. With my mates, its pretty much been turn to G or shards, or not bother going out. Sad really

 

[belarki]

.... Was discusted to walk outside to have a smoke in the smoking area and there being not one, but 3 ambulances lined up in McKillip st out the frount of 3d at 5am in the morning last week. Had a nice view of paramedics performing CPR threw the window, not to mention what would have been happening in the other two. And this wasn't even a packed night.

... Melbournes gone down the shitter. I beleive the lack of MDMA has had a huge impact. .... its pretty much been turn to G or shards....

Don't worry, middle Australia can sleep soundly at night knowing the war on drugs is being won.... 8)

 

[hatecubed]

Interesting topic. I think the MDMA drought has affected clublife. Someone mentioned Trance coming back in (Not hard trance but more uplifting/some more tech-house influenced trance). It's been going very strongly in Perth, and the clubs that have been playing it have had a decent turnout on many of the nights.

That being said, everything goes in peaks (haven't had one of those in a while) and troughs. I personally hate this electro-festival stuff that's been going on so much recently, but everything has it's time before it comes around full circle again. Who knows whats around the corner? :D

(*Hopefully no clubs closing)

 

[hatecubed]

Also I forgot to mention that the G blowouts have no doubt had an impact in one way or another; but truth be told about ID&T - I think that the event isn't coming back because they didn't make enough money.

Personally I don't care what the reason. I just want it back! :~(

 

[psytaco]

I personally hate this electro-festival stuff that's been going on so much recently, )

The chicks that attend are so hot though. I went to summerdayze and the music was shit as fuck, vibe was crap, but my god, I saw more beautiful women in that 8 hours I was there, than I have for the last 2 years!

 

[Mostasteless]

The chicks that attend are so hot though. I went to summerdayze and the music was shit as fuck, vibe was crap, but my god, I saw more beautiful women in that 8 hours I was there, than I have for the last 2 years!

Hahaha yep, the commercial electro/house I hear at festivals just flatout sounds shit to me but god damnnnn they draw an insane amount of hotties....unfortunately, the shirtless/fluro metro douchebags are also there in droves.

The decline in local rave clubs can definately be attributed to the amount of festivals, harsher nightlife liscences/laws and lack of MDMA. Perth hasn't had ANY new decent flips come round this entire year, it really sucks and you can see the difference at our main rave club.

 

[Iconoclast]

Yeah I think this is correct in part, I have stopped going out as much as I used to and only go to events that are of my genre, breaks or dnb really and I tend to take gear now just to make it thru til the am.

Its more a social thing, catch up have few beers and a dance then fuck off home, no love or hugs or ting.

lame really.