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Heroin Really,How easy is it to overdose?

SoonAJunkie

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I've read on the Internet that overdosing isn't really that easy.That's possibly cause dope is always cut, and impure. I'm not talking about Fentanyl cut dope,I'm just talking about common dope.And also I'm not talking about long term addicts that use 3grams of heroin per day...Is it possible to inject, let's say, 200MG of heroin and get a wild overdose that would require hospital care? For a person with low opiate tolerance?
 
Yes. 200mg is way too much. Try 10mg.

Pure diamorphine hydrochloride is 2.2x as potent as morphine by weight when injected. The problem is that nobody can tell you how pure the stuff from the streets are.
 
I've got a question. I'm on suboxone 8mg daily. Is it still possible to OD on methadone or heroin whilst on suboxone (or subutex)?
 
Yes. 200mg is way too much. Try 10mg.

Pure diamorphine hydrochloride is 2.2x as potent as morphine by weight when injected. The problem is that nobody can tell you how pure the stuff from the streets are.

The other time I injected about 20MG of heroin #3 stuff,and I didn't really get high,and I'm not the person with no tolerance

Also,I'm not the guy who believes everything he reads on the Internet but this one makes sense
 
I've got a question. I'm on suboxone 8mg daily. Is it still possible to OD on methadone or heroin whilst on suboxone (or subutex)?

Seems highly unlikely at face value, since it's basically impossible to even get high normally on suboxone 8mg daily. although I'm not 100% on what would happen if you took absurdly massive doses (like 1gram of methadone, or several grams of heroin).

End of the day the problem with heroin is that you just don't know. Even if you'ved sampled the batch to gauge the potency, you have no idea what other crap is in there with it.
 
I've got a question. I'm on suboxone 8mg daily. Is it still possible to OD on methadone or heroin whilst on suboxone (or subutex)?

Yes. It is very possible. Even though the bupe/methadone is blocking the high from dope (or any opiate), respiratory depression can still occur and you can still OD. That's why chasing that high while on maintenance can be dangerous.
 
the problem with street drugs is that the purity is not known and may vary a lot, so you could get moderately high from 100 mg from a certain batch or inject 100 mg from another batch and die.
it's up to you to know the strenght of your current batch and gauge your dose from there.
 
In general, it's incredibly easy to OD with street drugs especially, as purities greatly vary. With IV, the risk increases greatly, because the margin of error can be so low and the BA is so high. It's also a lot easier to OD when one is not consistently using (which sounds odd but it's true). People with a habit, who are using everyday and know their tolerance and are getting a consistent batch of dope, have a much smaller chance of OD'ing because their body is so used to it, and they can handle much more. Where as somebody who is chipping, never quite knows where their tolerance is, and their body is not used to the drug, therefore it's effects will be much more pronounced and unpredictable.

But, no matter how you often use, it's important to remain vigilant and careful. A lot of OD's happen from recklessness and carelessness. Be smart, do test doses, don't go overboard, and try to keep some semblance of control.
 
Mr.Scagnattie,then why do most addicts die from od,if not all,and there are much less dead people from od that are not addicts...just asking,I thought it they way you said it,that they can handle more dope,but it's contradicting
 
Well its not just long term junkies that die from it kids die from it all the time who arnt used to it. Junkies are doing it all the time yes they know their tolerance but with heroin you never know how strong it is. One day it could be cut to crap and weak and the next its use to pure from another source or cut with fentynal and the user didn't know. Long term Users still have a huge chance if overdosing because they do it all the time and dope isn't consistent so even if you know your tolerance its easy to get a strong batch of dope and kill your self by accident.
 
Mr.Scagnattie,then why do most addicts die from od,if not all,and there are much less dead people from od that are not addicts...just asking,I thought it they way you said it,that they can handle more dope,but it's contradicting

There are a lot of other factors that influence OD's as well, I was talking about specifically just using heroin. A lot fatal OD's are actually because of mixing CNS depressants, especially in the case of long term dependent users. They also die from complications related to drug use, not specifically OD's themselves.

Anybody can OD at anytime, that's what is most important to understand, and that there isn't just one way to OD.

Again, like I said before, that's why it is so important to be careful, do test doses, etc, no matter how often you use. When dealing with street drugs, that come with so many variables, you need to be extra careful.
 
^ Yes tolerance plays a big role and you have to keep in mind that many long-term users may go through periods of abstinence or using maintenance drugs. So it's easy to overdose once they get back on heroin. It's not a matter of an experienced user to be able to handle more. Like trainspotter said, a person may have had a large tolerance in the past, use again and it's a strong batch that does them in. It's just as easy for this to happen to a new user.
 
If you consistently use heroin, it's practically a guarantee that you'll eventually over-dose and have several close calls! IV heroin is always a crap-shoot...and even if you're careful for years, one night of mixing it with the wrong thing, or getting a strong hit can kill you!

In all the years I've done it...the combination of inexperience and recklessness is what I've seen do people in more than anything else...

Someone tries IV heroin, falls in love with it, and starts chasing it hard right from the start! They keep using more and more and are always trying to get completely annihilated. One day, the come into a bunch of money and cop a bunch of dope and some other assorted drugs....They go on a massive binge, and are dead 48 hours in!

Granted, I've known plenty of long-time users who have ODd, but when you've been using for years and have an insanely high opiate tolerance, it's a lot less likely you'll die from dope alone...Even if you do get an unexpectedly strong batch, you can handle the strength of that first shot and adjust accordingly for the next shot..

Test doses are extremely important and save lives! The problem is, a lot of people don't like doing them because they're in such a rush to get high..

Some people are also seemingly prone to ODs, and have a bunch of them...The only thing you can do is always be very cautious, no matter what the circumstances are!
 
there's a difference between ODing on just heroin and when other drugs are involved

people try and get as high as possible and there's a fine line between nodding off and ODing and when you are finally about to do it usually youre just glad you got it so youre not exactly thinking

"now let me play this safe and work my way up to that high"

because when you do that you never get as high as you would if you just jump straight to a larger amount
 
^^Because they can be reckless and mix their stuff with alcohol or benzodiazepines which are also CNS depressants. They may have a tolerance to both by themselves so do not think that mixing them would be so dangerous. But it is.
 
Sorry that was a reply to 'soonajunkie' but 5 people beat me to it! ..great name... Sigh
 
what did you nod out and forget the double carrots in the beginning lol
 
YES, be extremely careful adjusting the amount of dope you do while on suboxone, dont do too much. The suboxone will dampen the effects of the dope so you'll need to fight the urge to do more to get a good high. When i was on 8 mgs of sub a day i would take it and wait 24 hours to do my bags and it wouldnt really fuck it up that much at all, you could also do 1 bag just to get throught the bupe and then wait like 6 or 8 hours and do more to get a decent high but please be careful this is a very common cause of overdose
 
the best concrete answer for the Suboxone/dope dilemma imo

if youre on subs and want to take dope: wait until you feel sick, then you wont waste any
if youre on dope and want to take subs: wait until you feel sick, then you wont fuck your day up
 
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