Site Feedback REALITY, sadly: BL is not what I thought it was, in fact the opposite. I'm out.

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I dedicated a lot of personal free time over the last few days, week or so, to BL and the mission statement they declare true is actually bogus, it is bullshit, here word for word:


[h=1]BLUELIGHT.ORG: Reducing Harm by Educating the Individual[/h]
At the top of the page there's a link, "Mission Statement". See for yourself if your primary goal is to promote accurate, harm reduction advice. I don't belong here. The HR thread is closed, for whatever bloody reason. What I have seen is evidence that BL is a forum of drug users with different goals that don't sync up with mine, "getting high as fuck mate! yeah! let's roll this weekend bro, I scored these mad pills, the dude told me it's pure MDMA. potent as anything else around". I don't think I'm better than you, nobody, not ever. I rolled for years, I loved it. But it no longer interests me.

Drug dealers tend to lie a lot, did you know that? Compulsively. They actually lie to people so much that the value of honesty might not even exist to them anyway. It's another sad, sad truth of the reality of the scene.

This could be my final post. I read through "Homeless Threads" and all the advice people seem to want has almost nothing what-so-ever to do with HR.

For those few I've met on here that are the HR type, I'm glad to have met and shared with you. I'll miss you, I will.

The mods (lol, this wasn't a surprise, I knew this would happen and it did), most of them hate me (for the wrong reasons) and I think little of them because of it. They are chasing the high still, the roll is what they enjoy. You are free to live your life in any way you choose and I don't think less of you. But the treatment I received when I started posting HR advice basically stated clearly that I'm not wanted here. Talking down, insults, questioning me about things that had little to do with the positive, accurate, fucking medically proven advice I put up, likely on purpose was practically went unnoticed. I would not be surprised if BL is operated by criminals. Bikies, old school wise-guys hehe, a gang it doesn't matter what and who but I would not be shocked in the least if the truth is this .org is operated by an organised-crime style group of "tough guys".

And mods, get over yourselves. Don't be such wankers to people like me. I posted a HR thread LOADED with helpful information, HR advice about dehydration and how life-threatening it can be. Most of the comments these Mighty Moderators called my advice terrible, focusing on the one (the one, ONLY single piece of bad advice) that I removed myself anyway, because it was bad advice. Not many comments about the good advice I posted, one or two (and I thank you both for doing the bare minimum) but really they just bullied me, tried to make me feel like my HR advice was nothing special, did what mods do to newbs they don't see eye-to-eye on certain issues or disagree about something (they'll pick anything they disagree on so they can use it against me), they did the we are the mods here, you are a fucking needle in a haystack, the is BLUELIGHT and we RULE here, we're the big boys and "welcome" haha. Pathetic.

Whatever. I only feel bad for the members who are genuine supporters of spreading HR advice and learning about the stuff they don't know so they can teach others. I'm sorry to those few, but I'm not hanging around where I'm not liked and generally not wanted. Most of you mods can get fucked. Again, roll if you want, I don't judge you on that, I view you as despicable because of how I was treated.

Captain.Heroin, you posted in my very first new member intro thread years and welcomed me. Thanks buddy, it meant a lot. Acknowledgement and a simple comment make a new member feel great and more comfortable posting than if their intro thread received zero replies. How awful would that be to do to a person?

THE TRUTH OF BL, IN BRIEF: A hangout for druggies and a virtual environment (you got that mods, it's a forum) for mods to feel big and superior. If the HR forum is closed, HR advice is not welcome. Goodbye.

>> The few that want to keep in touch because of the values we have in common, PM me. I made a mistake attempting what I did here and learned from it. Please, I welcome anyone who wishes to remain in touch :)

".. and I leave with one final piece of RedLightBlueLight's token advice, drink water. Keep your fluids up, know the warning signs of dehyrdation and survive."

HARM-REDUCTION-Severe-dehydration-can-kill-you-Understand-the-symptoms-and-live
 
I'm really sorry, but I read that thread, and if you are that upset over people telling you that most of your advice was good but some of it was really, really​ not, then maybe you are too sensitive to be on a public forum.
 
seems like you've decided to leave so responding to your points would be a waste of time. you seem to have a high opinion of your own value so i'm sure you'll land on your feet.

thanks for the feedback.

alasdair
 
I came here in recovery and found this site to be instrumental, I guess it depends on your experience with forums. They all share common traits but this is the best and most diverse forum I have found. I also have weak skin and know it, so I try not to put myself in the line of fire. Even if advice I'm trying to impart made a big difference to me, it doesn't mean it will to others. Free speech is just that, and just like in life where you can't go anywhere you want and voice your opinion on whatever for fear of retaliation, you can expect the same if not worse on internet forums. The freedom to voice your opinion grants another the freedom to criticize you.

Maybe the OP could join an organization with common ethos and put that harm reduction knowledge to use in the field, as the op sounds really passionate.
 
I'm really sorry, but I read that thread, and if you are that upset over people telling you that most of your advice was good but some of it was really, really​ not, then maybe you are too sensitive to be on a public forum.

I am a sensitive person. Upset? Incorrect. Disappointed. Seems again a person chose insult. Your post, mostly correct but failed to insult me. Sorry pal.


seems like you've decided to leave so responding to your points would be a waste of time. you seem to have a high opinion of your own value so i'm sure you'll land on your feet.

thanks for the feedback.

alasdair

Mod? Not worth my time to put thought into the reply. Just correcting you. I highly value my time.


I came here in recovery and found this site to be instrumental, I guess it depends on your experience with forums. They all share common traits but this is the best and most diverse forum I have found. I also have weak skin and know it, so I try not to put myself in the line of fire. Even if advice I'm trying to impart made a big difference to me, it doesn't mean it will to others. Free speech is just that, and just like in life where you can't go anywhere you want and voice your opinion on whatever for fear of retaliation, you can expect the same if not worse on internet forums. The freedom to voice your opinion grants another the freedom to criticize you.

Maybe the OP could join an organization with common ethos and put that harm reduction knowledge to use in the field, as the op sounds really passionate.

There's heaps (one I know of I think is soberrecovery.com, basically AA, central focus there is 12 steps, higher power etc. also bit too cheesy for my taste), but again my time is valuable "that which cannot be measured in units" and I prefer enjoying life. I place a lot of value on living, anybody in the "misery" group getting this? Doesn't matter. I'm wasting time now. Other things that I value, I'm going leave it at that. I feel a sadness because right now, I'm wasting time.

My personal opinion is that time, for everyone, each person that exists, stops. It could happen tomorrow. Time is not endless thus, precious. Far too precious that a "type" or "level" of value can't be used for time. For the individual human being where time is counting.... invaluable. Each and every moment is a gfit. Life is a luxury that some take for granted. There's another way.
 
Not worth my time to put thought into the reply.
if you feel you have something to contribute. stick around. contribute. check your ego and do it just for the sake of helping the mission.

if you're here because you want to be recognised as some kind of expert and your participation requires that you receive praise for your contribution, then perhaps you're here for the 'wrong' reasons?

if you feel like you are wasting your time, you are free to stop posting at any time.

alasdair
 
I am a sensitive person. Upset? Incorrect. Disappointed. Seems again a person chose insult. Your post, mostly correct but failed to insult me. Sorry pal.

If you really perceive that as an insult then you are too sensitive to be here. You didn't feel insulted as none was intended and you would have known if it had been. Some people are simply not mature enough, or otherwise too thin-skinned to play well with others in an adult environment, especially one where being able to admit to fault when fault exists is an essential quality. This is simply a statement of fact.
 
Checked a few of your posts this morning to see what we may be losing - I think your biggest post is actually just putting down a mod in MDMA section (the section where your advise to set up an IV rig for fluids for when you need them after partying too hard).
 
one day you will be a bluelighter like me, until then smarten up!!!

I've read some of your posts, you have the potential to be one of the greatest contributors in the history of bluelight, you must live up to that expectation.
 
i just read this: HARM REDUCTION: Severe dehydration can kill you. Understand the symptoms and live (post #10)
Well, duh....

Is that pretty much your contribution today Mr Moderator Sir JWills20, location England? Post count exceeding 2,200?

Thank you for contributing. I have learned that you have the ability to point out the obvious and essentially suggest that I didn't keep my fluids up and that's why I came close to a fatal level of dehydration.

Do you have anything to contribute? Is my silly mistake actually relevant in any way? Your comment offers no advice, is directed at me and what your message says is exactly this, "You're an idiot and I feel superior, in fact I needed to insult you because I'm sad and jealous."

What it's revealed about you is that you are likely a very miserable person and insulting people like me, because I'm happy and enjoy life, gives you a moment of false superiority. You hate me, you hate people like me because 'it's not fair that they get to be happy' and you don't. Have a whinge. It's your life mate, if you choose to be miserable then that's all you.

I was miserable once, but I didn't want to be miserable. So I chose to put in the effort and start building a life that I cherish. I have goals, dreams.. I'm not lucky, I don't "get to be happy", I worked for it and continue to make choices that leads me further and further into a lifestyle that I created, partly by filling it with so, so many things that I'm passionate about and once the ball is rolling, motivation to continue improving and learning just becomes natural.

I can only pity your life. You must be so jaded and depressed. It doesn't have to be like that, YOU can make changes, nothing is going to come along and yank you up, out of your pit and save you.
the irony of your criticising others for insulting you in a post littered with your own insults must be lost on you?

if this is indicative of how you plan to interact in our community, i think that bluelight is likely better off without you.

alasdair
 
^ It really boggles the mind that all of that was in response to a single [very true] sentence.


Then again, if RedLightBlueLight can ascertain that much about a user's motivations and psyche from one sentence, maybe we really are losing someone of value. 8)
 
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Not many comments about the good advice I posted

You received factual criticism of a substantial portion of your guide, but also legitimate questions about how common this situation is under typical conditions, and of how specialized the interventions that one could possibly make in such a situation are. People pretty often refrain from replying with "I like that!" or "I agree!" so to some extent, you can take the absence of criticism as compliment.

I really don't see why having received moderate criticism over a single article you wrote has disillusioned you about the site as a whole.

most of them hate me

Do you have some lengthier history with bluelight other than this? We just met you. How could any of us hate you already?

ebola
 
lmao... did anyone tell him that most ppl hurt themselves from drinking to much water?

i kinda wana go back n read this kids posts now...

The IV rig was for when you got so bad from not drinking enough fluids that severe dehydration became life threatening. You know its easier to set up an IV rig at home - finish partying - get home and start IV fluids than just drinking a bottle of water through the night. Don't get me wrong, IV fluids can and do save lives but should never become part of any routine for clubbing, partying too hard etc.

The OP does state that he has used this method to administer fluids to himself which is great but I wouldn't advise anyone to start IV'ing fluids when they are dehydrated and just remember to have a drink every now and then.
 
The HR thread is closed, for whatever bloody reason.

You asked for your thread to be moved to the harm reduction forum. That forum is closed to new replies.
 
These threads of people whining is kind of interesting. There was another guy, Keymaker, who was here for a brief period, and trolled PD pretty hard while he was here. He then made a similar whiny thread in the Support section, basically showing the same arrogance/fragile ego thing. I don't know what these people are expecting, though - an apology? I agree with cuivre, it's crazy how RedLightBlueLight went off on that mod over one sentence. Seems like there's a common mental disorder with the two posters, Keymaker and RLBL - Overly Sensitive Narcissistic Disorder or something. Maybe just extremely poor social skills.
 
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