Hello everyone, I am brand new here as far as posting goes. I hovered around the forums for years now and never thought I would be the one asking for help. My friend Swim has been doing opiates on a low scale, but for a long time now. And after losing his sense of control season after season, he began to deplete all his money every chance he could to obtain more oxys, vics, percs, morphine whatever. He was a hard worker 24/7 but even quit his job while chasing the blue fairies. This is his first time facing, SERIOUS withdraw...The cold sweats and no sleeping..fine It's some brutal shit but he can deal with that, but the depression...I imagine completely derived from the cut off of dopamine has even brought suicidal thoughts. He have reached out and is getting help for depression, but now he needs to address his addiction and he DOES NOT want to go on suboxyin for obvious reasons. Swim has 100mg of oxy (only needs 15mg to get good), a supply of klonopin (for RLS but doesnt help much) and a supply of clonodine also some bud he has been going nutts with. To be completely honest..he is looking for someone..anyone to help him plan this out and how to taper off the most natural way. I always speculated the "addicts" to constantly use about 100mg a day, even on a small scale this is no joke...Any help is appreciated, thanks!
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Reaching out, coping with Opiate withdrawl
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Hi Bluepaws. I'm glad you made an account and I hope you will get lots of support. Don't bother using SWIM or any other third person creation. It does not protect you and makes it difficult for people that want to respond to you, know they are responding to you but have to try to keep pronouns straight!
You do not necessarily have to go on maintenance of any kind.I am going to move this over to Sober Living where there are lots of folks dealing with coming off opiates. In the meantime, here are some appropriate threads for you to check out:
Specific advice for supplements etc when coming off of opiates: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/673580-Hey-I-thought-the-grey-matter-of-ADD-could-chew-on-this
For PAWS:http://whatmesober.com/paws/
People discussing what has helped opiate WDs: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...-what-is-the-best-comfort-meds-for-opiate-w-d
Congratulations on the work you are doing to reclaim your life and to heal in the deepest sense of the word. Look into non-drug interventions for depression.
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...on?highlight=mindfulness+effective+depression
You do not necessarily have to go on maintenance of any kind.I am going to move this over to Sober Living where there are lots of folks dealing with coming off opiates. In the meantime, here are some appropriate threads for you to check out:
Specific advice for supplements etc when coming off of opiates: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/673580-Hey-I-thought-the-grey-matter-of-ADD-could-chew-on-this
For PAWS:http://whatmesober.com/paws/
People discussing what has helped opiate WDs: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...-what-is-the-best-comfort-meds-for-opiate-w-d
Congratulations on the work you are doing to reclaim your life and to heal in the deepest sense of the word. Look into non-drug interventions for depression.
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads...on?highlight=mindfulness+effective+depression
Bluepaws, you are not alone. I;ve gone through similar situations, had good paying job and lots of money saved until I picked up a small habit that grew into a large habit and eventually depleted everything I had worked for, left me with next to nothing.
The first thing you must know is that YOU CAN do this. By your own will power, you can do this. Perhaps not will power alone, without the aid of food, water, and the comfort of others I probably would not have made it out, but not with much more did I make it out. Nourish the body and mind, give it time to rest and heal, be with your pain. Face the demons you have been running from, it is time. Let them teach you what they can before they are conquered. The lessons you learn now will be with you for the rest of your life. Learn them well, and never forget this moment. You do not want to go back here, but nor do you ever need to. You can become stronger, smarter, and more compassionate. You can become a better lover, and find those who seek the same in life as you, surround yourself with them.
My best advice is to make sure you are getting the necessary food and rest that your body needs, make sure it is well cared for and nourished. Beyond that, you must push yourself to be stronger. In all likelihood, it is up to you from here on out to make sure that you do not make the same mistake again. It is an easy mistake to make, let me be honest with you. Be with your pain, try to understand your feelings rather than trying to escape them. Emotions will too pass in time. Some slower than others, but in time it will all pass.
The first thing you must know is that YOU CAN do this. By your own will power, you can do this. Perhaps not will power alone, without the aid of food, water, and the comfort of others I probably would not have made it out, but not with much more did I make it out. Nourish the body and mind, give it time to rest and heal, be with your pain. Face the demons you have been running from, it is time. Let them teach you what they can before they are conquered. The lessons you learn now will be with you for the rest of your life. Learn them well, and never forget this moment. You do not want to go back here, but nor do you ever need to. You can become stronger, smarter, and more compassionate. You can become a better lover, and find those who seek the same in life as you, surround yourself with them.
My best advice is to make sure you are getting the necessary food and rest that your body needs, make sure it is well cared for and nourished. Beyond that, you must push yourself to be stronger. In all likelihood, it is up to you from here on out to make sure that you do not make the same mistake again. It is an easy mistake to make, let me be honest with you. Be with your pain, try to understand your feelings rather than trying to escape them. Emotions will too pass in time. Some slower than others, but in time it will all pass.
Tryptamine*Dreamer
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Kratom is excellent to come off of a stronger opiate like oxycodone, it has really been helping me a lot. But it is best to try to come off slowly instead of replacing one habit for another. Benzos are harder but phenibut, which is legal, would help with reducing the dosage and both things are legal 
I hope your friend is able to get in a better state. Switching to kratom and reducing doses of benzos is helpful but the benzo(s) have to be tapered down very slowly.
Peace and love
Tryptamine*Dreamer
I hope your friend is able to get in a better state. Switching to kratom and reducing doses of benzos is helpful but the benzo(s) have to be tapered down very slowly.
Peace and love
Tryptamine*Dreamer