RC Tablet?

[Roger&Me]

Maybe not - at least on my scale (Gemini-20), it's "sticky" around zero. If I tare it with the tray on, it reads exactly zero and doesn't start moving until I add about 10 mg. If I tare it without the tray and then put the tray on, it fluctuates a bit and reacts more quickly when I add a few mg.

That's perfectly normal for most balances; its essentially a problem of sensitivity. Every balance is produced to conform to a sensitivity requirement, ie. when using a balance produced with a sensitivity requirement of 6mg, one can add or remove up to 6mg before the scale is sensitive enough to register the difference.

Because it expends valuable engineering and manufacturing capital to reduce various types of noise and mechanical factors that limit sensitivity, highly sensitive balances are usually expensive. If your balance was reasonably priced, its very likely that its sensitivity is in the range of 10+mg.

edit: I want to emphasize to everyone for harm reduction purposes that this is exactly the reason it is imperative to dose via liquid measurement when ingesting potent psychoactives. Its likely that your scale isnt sensitive enough to give you a precise dose; this is especially important concerning highly potent compounds like 2C-P and DOx.

 

[phenethylo J]

Iv'e seen pics of 2cs and other rcs pressed into pills but I have only got them in gelcaps.

 

[DaleGribble]

Why does dosage amount matter? Just press the small dose with more safe to ingest powder that will hold shape.

 

[Tunnelfission]

Pressing research chemicals into caps might cause the ever dreaded problem of misidentification down the line once it gets to one or two suppliers who don't understand what it is, may give it a poor name or call it something it is not.

 

[DaleGribble]

pressing and caps are not terms that jive my friend....

and if you don't know exactly what you have, that is a whole different problem....

 

[atara]

There would be nothing to stop you from putting any RC (like 4aco or 2cE) into tabs right?

Anyone pressed tablets before or have an easier way of packaging smaller volumes of RCs other than gel caps?

It's going on as we speak. Frankly, this whole pellet thing has been a disaster. RCs should be sold exclusively as powder. They're lab samples, not happy pills.

 

[SpecialK_]

If your using Gelatine caps, I recommend putting them in as your using them, keep the powder separate. Some of those caps end up getting 'rubbed off' or getting holes in them.

 

[Roger&Me]

It's going on as we speak. Frankly, this whole pellet thing has been a disaster. RCs should be sold exclusively as powder. They're lab samples, not happy pills.

Agreed 100%

I'm gunna use your post as a jumping off point for some ranting. :D I think all RCs should be pure powders that are packaged with a disclaimer that reads: for use as an analytical reference standard only. Or something to that effect.

Selling pills of powerful psychedelics and entactogens is beyond irresponsible, its downright preposterous. I cannot really even fathom a more offensive, ill-considered, and rash business strategy than that.

Frankly, the warm reception that the 6-APB pellet pushers received is one of the reasons why I'm sickened by the modern day RC scene. I was more than a bit perturbed to find that most people actually saw nothing wrong with these swindlers selling pills of questionable composition as "6-APB".

Not to mention that these hacks are vultures that profit off of other people's original research, that was conducted to increase the sum total of chemical knowledge available to humanity, not so that a bunch of shady asses can make a quick buck selling "pellets" to fiending meph-crazies.

 

[allium]

Why pellets is more wrong than powdered "plant food"? No big difference, IMO.

I think all RCs should be pure powders that are packaged with a disclaimer that reads: for use as an analytical reference standard only. Or something to that effect.

This makes difference, so I agree with you.

 

[shishigami]

Why pellets is more wrong than powdered "plant food"? No big difference, IMO.

With a pellet I don't know how much of what chemical is in it. Secondly if I do it's hard to go between the doses. Yea you can try cutting the pellets in half but I wouldn't trust that the active chemical is uniformly distributed. Lastly pellets beg to be resold as something else, in the case of 6-APB, MDMA.

They're bad for the business.

 

[allium]

^ I still can't see significant difference.

With a pellet I don't know how much of what chemical is in it.

I've just checked several UK websites, and they all state how much 6-APB is in a pellet.

Yea you can try cutting the pellets in half but I wouldn't trust that the active chemical is uniformly distributed.

Sure, but
1) you don't need scales to measure out multiples of 100 mg. So no eyeballing.
2) And you can always do liquid measuring.

Lastly pellets beg to be resold as something else, in the case of 6-APB, MDMA.

And 6-APB powder may be resold as pure powder MDMA.

 

[Roger&Me]

Why pellets is more wrong than powdered "plant food"? No big difference, IMO.

I think selling it as "plant food" is ridiculous as well. These compounds should be sold in a sealed amber vial labeled with a lewis structure of the compound and a disclaimer that its only for use as an analytical reference standard. Why say anything more?? It makes no sense, its not like anybody believes that stuff is actually plant food...

The main reason that pellets are worse than powder is that people always ingest them in integer or half-integer multiples. ie, if someone eats a pill and is feeling good, if they decide to take more they will likely take another whole pill-- or perhaps half of a pill. In the case of 6-APB, this ended up making people very ill! With powder, you can measure out doses with complete freedom (and weigh doses without having to consider binders and fillers), and you're much more likely to consider the amount you're ingesting more carefully.

 

[allium]

I think selling it as "plant food" is ridiculous as well. These compounds should be sold in a sealed amber vial labeled with a lewis structure of the compound and a disclaimer that its only for use as an analytical reference standard.

That's my dream.

The main reason that pellets are worse than powder is that people always ingest them in integer or half-integer multiples

True. It would be better if those pellets are 50 mg.
But can't a pill be just crushed into powder? Or dissolved in water? Though pill form doesn't dispose to such ways of dosing.

if they decide to take more they will likely take another whole pill-- or perhaps half of a pill. In the case of 6-APB, this ended up making people very ill!

I am not into this scene, so I don't watch for it... But is this a big problem?

 

[SpiritualHealing]

There are definatley RC Tablets on the market. Even in spectacular and dangerous combinations like 4-MEC, MDMC and MDPV in a single tab... :-(

 

[Eazytab]

Color coding. To distinguish the caps try useing some sort of colorant in the formula. You need very little around 1-2% depending on the concentration and there are many types of dyes and food products that can be used for this.