Stimulants RC Stimulants (2-FMA, 4-FA) vs. Meth?

[Lady Codone]

I'm no stranger to stimulant RC's. In fact, I've been using them regularly for about a year now...maybe longer. Anyway I was wondering how different a drug like 2-FMA is from orally-administered (crystal) methamphetamine? I assume meth is more intense but are there any qualitative differences I should be aware of? (euphoria, duration, side effects, etc). How does the addictive potential measure up?

I've seen 2-FMA referred to as "the closest thing to meth besides meth". I assume 4-FA is more of an empathogen than meth, but any comparisons would be appreciated.

Here's an incomplete list of the stimulants I've tried:

ephedra, propylhexedrine, methylone, mephedrone, coca leaves, MDPV, 4-FA, 2-FMA, 2-FA, MPA, 4-MEC, ethylone, dimethocaine, cocaine, aPVP, 4-EMC...etc...etc.

Please keep in mind: I've never tried prescription stimulants, only RC's and OTC stuff. And we're not talking about smoking/IV meth, only oral administration.

Thanks!

 

[Tryptamino]

2-FMA is more like regular amphetamine than meth IMO, unless you vaporize it, which i recommend against. 4-FA is an empathogenic stimulant that doesn't feel like meth at all. 2-FMA has less side effects than crystal, but that's probably just cause my meth usually gets cut with something very unhealthy, cause I've had 94% pure crystals and there are very few side effects in comparison. MDPV is the closest you can get to meth IMO as far as euphoria goes, although the actual feeling is a lot more similar to cocaine, only much stronger, and I wouldn't recommend taking MDPV, as it's the most side-effect ridden drug I've ever taken.

 

[Lady Codone]

Thanks!

MDPV is the only drug I've ever flushed. Zero euphoria and horrific side effects that I haven't gotten from any other stimulant.

The meth in question is clear and crystalline and referred to as "very good quality d-meth". I'll only be taking it in low doses by mouth, if at all. Was just curious if it's similar to other stims or in a league of its own in terms of addictive/side effect potential. I enjoy the fluoroamphetamines very much but get pretty dysphoric if I use the same one for days on end...gotta switch it up I'm not looking to get plastered in general, just want a stimulant that's functional and will boost my energy/mood a bit. I'm a self-medicator, not a reality escaper.

Thanks for the info!

 

[FlippingTop]

I'm a self-medicator, not a reality escaper.

that made me lol.

Personally I don't believe any of the F(M)As are like meth.

4-fma is shit, 4-fa is an OK speed alternative. 2-fma may be like a lite-meth, a VERY fucking lite meth though.

For functionality 2-fma is awesome, sustained use didn't leave me feeling drained at all!

 

[Znegative]

2-FMA is more like regular amphetamine than meth IMO, unless you vaporize it, which i recommend against. 4-FA is an empathogenic stimulant that doesn't feel like meth at all. 2-FMA has less side effects than crystal, but that's probably just cause my meth usually gets cut with something very unhealthy, cause I've had 94% pure crystals and there are very few side effects in comparison. MDPV is the closest you can get to meth IMO as far as euphoria goes, although the actual feeling is a lot more similar to cocaine, only much stronger, and I wouldn't recommend taking MDPV, as it's the most side-effect ridden drug I've ever taken.

Man this post is spot on.

Basically the only thing IME that comes close to methamphetamine is regular Dextroamphetamine, though I've only used meth via the IV route as well as inhalation. I also would say that for some reason smoked methamphetamine feels more similar to Dextroamphetamine than IV meth does (IV meth has a much more intense rush that feels kind of trippy IME). When it comes to RC's, MDPV is the closest I've tried and like TPD said, its more similar really to cocaine in terms of rush, but the duration of effect is very similar to meth. I might argue that IV Mephedrone has a slightly more Methamphetamine touch to it, but then again, this is all from an IV perspective (I've never dosed meth or Mephedrone orally.)

 

[cornerstone430]

Most meth isnt balanced out well with a good concentration of the Dextro. Though even that i find 4fa very effective and better than the real thing. Probably a purity thing. Plus less toxins in who knows what batch whipped up of M.

mdpv was good but did lack a bit of the euphoria. No experience with 2fma or 3fma though.

i'd take a gram of 4fa over the real thing for the fact if getting from a good supplier your fa will be very pure vs. not knowing.
Apvp is alright it varies batch to batch though.

 

[Onandoff]

Thanks!

MDPV is the only drug I've ever flushed. Zero euphoria and horrific side effects that I haven't gotten from any other stimulant.

The meth in question is clear and crystalline and referred to as "very good quality d-meth". I'll only be taking it in low doses by mouth, if at all. Was just curious if it's similar to other stims or in a league of its own in terms of addictive/side effect potential. I enjoy the fluoroamphetamines very much but get pretty dysphoric if I use the same one for days on end...gotta switch it up I'm not looking to get plastered in general, just want a stimulant that's functional and will boost my energy/mood a bit. I'm a self-medicator, not a reality escaper.

Thanks for the info!

If you vape MDPV, it's a different ball game in terms of euphoria I have heard from many of bluelighters here...but I obviously don't recommend that either. MDPV is pretty damn tweaky indeed. PV induced psychosis is really not healthy lol.
Anyways, I am a self-medicator myself, not a reality escaper haha
I am also interested in some of these RC stims that I can be functional with. My ADD/ADHD gets worse and worse by day and it would be cool if these stims can be decent substitutes to some of the prescribed amphetamines.
I assume 4-FA induces more euphoria than 2-FMA? so it can't be really that good of a functional stim since euphoria distracts me. Same for Methylone.
Have you tried Ethylphenidate? I have been seeing many trip reports about that one recently but that one also has mixed reviews. Wish I can get my hands on desoxyn!

 

[Lady Codone]

Thanks for all the feedback! Meth is on the way so the help is appreciated.

Yes I've tried ethylphenidate, Onandoff. I liked it at first but started getting disturbing cardiovascular side effects after a few times (muscle weakness, palpitations, shortness of breath, etc). I've seen others say the same thing but most people love it.

4-FA is more serotonin-y/empathogenic than the other -FA's for sure. After a while it just becomes a straight stimulant as tolerance builds, much like how MDMA loses "the magic" when abused. A 2-3 day break brings it back for me though. Strangely, I find no cross-tolerance between 2-FMA and 4-FA whatsoever.

I know most people smoke or snort (or IV) meth...has anyone tried taking it by mouth before? I imagine it's longer-acting and less rushy that way. And hopefully less intense/addictive.

 

[tricomb]

The oral ROA is the best way to use meth short of plugging IMO.

The duration and smoothness is uncanny.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

The oral ROA is the best way to use meth short of plugging IMO.

The duration and smoothness is uncanny.

Dude plugging Crystal Meth is the opposite of Smooth unless you want to damage your asshole. I suggest doing key bumps until you feel where you need remember Meth is a creeper and if you feel it now you Will more than likely feel it stronger thirty minutes from then Another thing---Desoxyn is not Crystal. Just thought Id throw this out there. Im not saying plugging isnt fun but its very unhealthy. Eat it or bump it. if you smoke it drink water after tokes ALWAYS dont not stay hydrated. Meth is extremely draining.

NO RC I have had besides a batch of apvp felt like anything functional on. I dont get shitty meth though when I decide to dabble and if I do its still better than most.

 

[BananasAndOranges]

Thanks for all the feedback! Meth is on the way so the help is appreciated.

Yes I've tried ethylphenidate, Onandoff. I liked it at first but started getting disturbing cardiovascular side effects after a few times (muscle weakness, palpitations, shortness of breath, etc). I've seen others say the same thing but most people love it.

4-FA is more serotonin-y/empathogenic than the other -FA's for sure. After a while it just becomes a straight stimulant as tolerance builds, much like how MDMA loses "the magic" when abused. A 2-3 day break brings it back for me though. Strangely, I find no cross-tolerance between 2-FMA and 4-FA whatsoever.

I know most people smoke or snort (or IV) meth...has anyone tried taking it by mouth before? I imagine it's longer-acting and less rushy that way. And hopefully less intense/addictive.

Oral lasts the longest. Honestly just fucking do a bump and make sure its meth. A bump can vary from a match head or the end of a key...I personally start with a match because if you have Not done crystal and have no idea what your getting into then bomb too much....youll be in for a long ride but itd be smoother. Still rushy though just slower waves. I just thought Id throw this out there as I have had nasty cut meth once or twice and its nothing fun. Just make sure all the crystals are different in width and that there hard. Some chunks u can sorta break by squeezing if its a bunch of smaller chunks but if its a solid chunk....it should be Very hard.

 

[Lady Codone]

Dude plugging Crystal Meth is the opposite of Smooth unless you want to damage your asshole.

I lol'd.

Good advice, peeps! Didn't know to check the size/width of the crystals. I'll be sure to do that. I plan to chip off the tiniest possible piece and start from there. For me, snorting seems more addiction-inducing than oral admin so I'll probably start with a taste test like I do w/ RC's.

Thanks for the explanation on what a "bump" is supposed to look like. It's not totally precise I know, but it gives me a good idea of where to start. A match head is pretty tiny! That's about what my MDPV doses looked like during my short run with that.

Also, people keep talking about purity issues. Is it common for crystal meth to be cut with other drugs? Or to contain other nasty impurities?