RCs RC Benzos---are they worth the risks?

[waldo777]

Hi all,

I'm very interested in the RC benzo's or the benzo-like RC's, whatever their proper classification... I have no experience with RC chems at all, lots of drug experience, and am in a situation where I cannot find any benzo's illicitly.

So, in peoples' experiences, are there any major risks, other than taking reckless amounts, associated with RC's /RC benzos? I'm thinking of Phenaazepam and Etizolam (spelling may be wrong) specifically.

Are there serious legal risks buying these online in the USA?

-do vendors ever rip people off or steal credit card info?
-whats the risk of being sent a different and toxic/dangerous drug?
-whats the risk we learn that these things are deadly/toxic/carcinogenic in a few years?

Sruff like that...

 

[Skeeef]

A lot of people like etiz. phenaz has been known to get people into trouble because its effects are harder to notice as it comes on slowly and isnt euphoric. it just has a really long half-life and lowers inhibitions leading to trouble with redosing.

 

[sekio]

The major risk with phenazepam etc is addiction and dependence.

Phenazepam, etizolam, pyrazolam are not explicity illegal in the US, but could be construed as analogue drugs or mistaken for "pharmaceutical" benzos.

We don't generally discuss the sourcing side of drugs here. Some vendors are total ripoff artists, others are not. If you do recieve product it's generally a crap shoot with most "vendors" whether they'll send random inactive crap, cut drugs, or pure stuff.

The benzodiazepines are fairly non-toxic physically, but if your supplier is cutting it with lead it could be considerably less safe.


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Benzodiazepines make poor drugs of misuse, I advise staying far away. There's better ways to spend your money.

 

[Skeeef]

The major risk with phenazepam etc is addiction and dependence.

Phenazepam, etizolam, pyrazolam are not explicity illegal in the US, but could be construed as analogue drugs or mistaken for "pharmaceutical" benzos.

We don't generally discuss the sourcing side of drugs here. Some vendors are total ripoff artists, others are not. If you do recieve product it's generally a crap shoot with most "vendors" whether they'll send random inactive crap, cut drugs, or pure stuff.

The benzodiazepines are fairly non-toxic physically, but if your supplier is cutting it with lead it could be considerably less safe.


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Benzodiazepines make poor drugs of misuse, I advise staying far away. There's better ways to spend your money.

qft

 

[tricomb]

I don't see why anyone would bother with them considering how wide-spread the classic benzodiazepines are prescribed en-masse.

Everyone and their mom has one or more scripts for benzodiazepines, if you ask me I'd much rather stick to the well-established benzodiazepines. They tend to be much cheaper, more reliable, are available in abundance.

I've never tried etizolam nor do I need to, I have all the benzodiazepines I'll ever need prescribed.

 

[belfort]

^^umm i thought u were clean from all benzos??

 

[waldo777]

Without details, I simply cannot obtain benzos from the street or from a doctor, that's the only reason I'm considering this.

It seems to me that if these chems work, then the only reason not to get them, given that the Rx benzos are not an option, is b/c of the shady things vendors may do. What I'm trying to ascertain is, are these risky b/c of what they do, or are they risky b/c of who makes and sells them?

I am very experienced and have done enough dumb shit to know how to avoid doing more dumb shit; such as redosing till blackout. That is something I dealt with and learned how to avoid with the regular old Rx benzos and something I think I can handle with these RC chems too.

Do these really give similar effects to other benzos like xanax, klonopin, and ativan? Or do I just read the comparison btwn these and RC's b/c nothing else adequately comes close to the effects?

 

[sekio]

These are close structural analogues of pharmaceutical benzodiazepines. They are both hazardous because they are illegal and also because of their innate nature as highly potent psychoactives.

0.5mg pressed into a thumb sized pill is an easy concept for the human mind. 0.5mg as powder is not.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Everyone and their mom has one or more scripts for benzodiazepines, if you ask me I'd much rather stick to the well-established benzodiazepines. They tend to be much cheaper, more reliable, are available in abundance.

Maybe in the US They're hard to get up here in Canada. Plus regardless of where a person lives, some people can't get a Rx themselves (for example if you've ever admitted to using illicit drugs or having an addiction) and don't know anyone with them (especially not anyone who wants to share). I am very curious about RC benzos myself. But I've also heard a lot of bad stories about people using them recreationally, especially phanazepam. There are some detailed threads on here.

- Etizolam Mega-Thread

- do a search on Phenazepam for threads about it

 

[tricomb]

^^umm i thought u were clean from all benzos??

I quit abuse and regular dosing of benzodiazepines over a year ago.
I still take them occasionally responsibly when absolutely needed for debilitating insomnia, panic (not anxiety, I have learned to stop medicating for anxiety this past year after quitting and learned better alternative techniques) and PTSD.

I never abuse them and I take a fraction of what my prescribed dosages are.

 

[Opanaking]

That's good, being addicted to benzos is something that really sucks. It's kind of nice in the beginning because it feels like you finally got something to get rid of all anxiety and insomnia. But the fact of the matter is there only good to use once in awhile.