🗺️ Europe 🗺️ Rc benzo legal in netherlands

[bunny22]

Hi guys,

Can you make a list with the rc benzos currently legal in netherlands? I am interested in the most sedative/euphoric ones you found and how they compare to 10mg diazepam

Thanks everyone

 

[Cheshire_Kat]

We try not to make lists of currently legal substances; not because it's forbidden knowledge but because a substance's legal status can and does change as time goes by. We do not want to have a "legal list" that does not conform to the reality of this changing world and thereby leading someone into making a decision based on an invalid status. Some of these threads are read years after they have been posted and Bluelight tries to ensure that information shared is correct and current.

That status should be checked in real time by accessing genuine government web sites that list the legal status.

We certainly can compare RC's based on criteria such as closeness to another substance and or sedation and or euphoria.

 

[Bleaney]

If you're after heavy hitters they don't come much heavier than Flubromazepam, ime.

It's an analogue of Phenazepam apparently, which I didnt know before, but I just saw that on wiki.

That explains a LOT though!

I think its even heavier than phenazepam IIRC, and it lasts a very long time too!

So beware of potential trainwreck effects on your life!

This substance was one of a list that came up on the first link I found easily on a web search. It's legal status in NL is not mention on wiki.

OP seems to be trying out / wanting to try out the most heavy or hardcore substances available right now. It's your life OP, but it's almost certainly a sign that your trying to numb or block out some difficulty in your life. It'll still be there when the drugs wear off. And you may end up with drug problems on top of w/e the original problem was or is.

I don't mean to sound preachy or judgemental, as I have been, and still am in exactly the same position myself. Finding myself using the escapasim of the dopamine hit of stim fapping much more than I should be of late, rather than facing and trying to solve whatever is triggering this.

 

[3DQSAR]

De Opiumwet somt alle expliciet gecontroleerde drugs in Nederland op. Ik denk niet dat ze zoiets hebben als de CSA-wet die in de VS wordt gebruikt.

Maar het is mijn ervaring dat als de USD vermoedt dat een verbinding een analoog is, ze deze in beslag zullen nemen en je een juridische procedure zou moeten gebruiken om deze terug te krijgen.

Natuurlijk worden persoonlijke hoeveelheden van wat dan ook niet bestraft. Net in beslag genomen. Maar als het een harddrug is, kunnen ze je bedreigen met juridische stappen, tenzij je medische hulp zoekt.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

Aren't pretty all of the legal highs legal in NL? Do a Google search for a clearweb vendor

 

[Bleaney]

I don't think that's neccessarilly the best or a good way of judging things. There are loads of clearnet sites in the UK also selling many kinds of mainly class C P.O.Ms, rather than RCs. But of course that doesn't mean they are legal.

But it is true that all of the decent RC sites in the UK were taken down soon after the NPS act was passed in 2016/2017, or stopped running. Last time I checked. Any still up will just be defunkt or scam sites.

IIRC the legal status of RCs in the NL and Portugal is 'softer' than it is elsewhere in Europe, and the rest of the world for that matter.

 

[GulpingBatteryLiquid]

The NL clearnet sites seem pretty legit, a huge amount of drugs that caught by the PSA are still legal over there. Plus they're too square to ship to the UK (Trust me. I've asked plenty of them)

 

[Bleaney]

The NL clearnet sites seem pretty legit, a huge amount of drugs that caught by the PSA are still legal over there. Plus they're too square to ship to the UK (Trust me. I've asked plenty of them)

Fair enough. That does sound like they are legit sites, and abiding by the current laws.

I've seen a number of different vendors stating things along the lines of 'it is the users responsibility to check the legal status of any substances they are seeking to import into their country, and we take no responsibility for any potential legal consequences if any substances are not legal in the destination country.'

Those kind of disclaimers were just a waste of space imo, for a start they would have been exporting banned substances, which surely must be illegal. And if enough banned substances get seized by Border control agencies, all seeming to originate from the same vendor, it won't be long before the vendor gets investigated, and action gets taken against them.

So obviously they'd want to avoid that kind of legal 'heat'.

There was a well known Spanish vendor who did continue to ship banned high purity RC substances to the UK for a year or 2 after their ban. I cant recall the exact time scales now, but this vendor had an incredibly clever stealth postage method, and that's possibly why they carried on, and got away with it for some time.

Who knows if they eventually quit while they were still ahead, or if they got caught. I certainly don't.

 

[aftershocknrock]

Fair enough. That does sound like they are legit sites, and abiding by the current laws.

I've seen a number of different vendors stating things along the lines of 'it is the users responsibility to check the legal status of any substances they are seeking to import into their country, and we take no responsibility for any potential legal consequences if any substances are not legal in the destination country.'

Those kind of disclaimers were just a waste of space imo, for a start they would have been exporting banned substances, which surely must be illegal. And if enough banned substances get seized by Border control agencies, all seeming to originate from the same vendor, it won't be long before the vendor gets investigated, and action gets taken against them.

So obviously they'd want to avoid that kind of legal 'heat'.

There was a well known Spanish vendor who did continue to ship banned high purity RC substances to the UK for a year or 2 after their ban. I cant recall the exact time scales now, but this vendor had an incredibly clever stealth postage method, and that's possibly why they carried on, and got away with it for some time.

Who knows if they eventually quit while they were still ahead, or if they got caught. I certainly don't.

the vendor you mention was hacked and had all their customer info stolen. They were blackmailed into paying a large sum of cash, 10,000 euro or more or they would post all the customer info. The vendor paid and closed shop shortly after, a real shame they were one of the best

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Sorry folks this is a bit close to sourcing for my liking and as CK says such information rarely stays relevant for long so I'll be closing the thread.