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Random MSN Gibberings XCVII - Men vs. Hairdressers/Seedy Sam's Mullet

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Got a 1st for that bendy train meets squarepusher film :) Well pleased. Whole thing was shot and cobbled together over 24 hours flat!
 
Albion said:
Got a 1st for that bendy train meets squarepusher film :) Well pleased. Whole thing was shot and cobbled together over 24 hours flat!
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Well in man, it deserved it. I liked that video.


I've just got back from the "you're sacked" meeting at work. STILL not sacked. Need to wait on the decision which may be a couple of weeks & even then my union dude is shouting he wants to take it to a tribunal if they do lol. I actually wish they'd hurry up & just sack me, but then in saying that... I got a payslip through the post today %) haha.

Bottle of Havana purchased on the way home. It's a bit lighter coloured than the usual gear I drink, no sure what it's gonna be like but it came in a fancy tin & was £2 cheaper than the normal stuff. Gonna get a joint rolled then crack it open, probably try not to actually finish it all today though.
 
Cheers man, and thank fuck for bureaucracy. Are you getting full pay while they faff about trying to get you sacked?
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
Well done Pete! How does art fit in with the conventional marking system of universities out of interest?
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I was discussing this with my mate a couple of weeks ago. She's doing some sort of English degree & is writing her dissertation on something to do with Hunter Thomson, Gonzo/New Journalism etc (I wasn't paying too much attention tbh, I was just rambling stoned shit about Hunter S mainly, which was apparently helpful).

We were talking about how it comes down to a matter of opinion, as what she's going to write about the cunt marking it will likely have no clue what she's on about &, as far as I can tell, one person could think it's a load of shite while the next person could think it's brilliant. This applies even more so with art. Must be so difficult to score. Like with science/maths/etc, there's a definite right & wrong answer to a question, whereas with something subjective like literature or art there is no right or wrong answer (to a certain extent).
 
Matter of opinion comes into it to an extent, but they get around this by having multiple people marking each student and cross referencing. They mainly judge on the basis of how hard you've worked and how successful the final piece/s are at doing what you claim they do. And how sophisticated the ideas are. I think a lot of that is easy enough to assess based on the quantity of work submitted.

Having said that, here is what my tutor said about the film:

You say “In the city there can be a way of living that is hugely mechanized, repetitive and unchanging, much like white noise.” This tells me you did not really understand what white noise is as ‘spectral density’ If you wanted me to think of the city in a negative way actually I was inspired by your view of it! The pulsing organic tempo animated the machinations of the city bones and arteries…The express blurred and abstracted flashes of imagery just expressed the speed and variety which was exhilarating not dark or unnerving….if not already, do see film Koyanisquatsi (Philip Glass).
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She's right, it has fuck all to do with white noise (buzzword set for us), no amount of bullshit could ever connect the two...Although she failed to mention how my submission for the 'documentary' project is just in no way a documentary.
 
Albion said:
Matter of opinion comes into it to an extent, but they get around this by having multiple people marking each student and cross referencing. They mainly judge on the basis of how hard you've worked and how successful the final piece/s are at doing what you claim they do. And how sophisticated the ideas are. I think a lot of that is easy enough to assess based on the quantity of work submitted.

Having said that, here is what my tutor said about the film:



She's right, it has fuck all to do with white noise (buzzword set for us), no amount of bullshit could ever connect the two...Although she failed to mention how my submission for the 'documentary' project is just in no way a documentary.
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So essentially what you're saying is is that it's almost completely to do with the blagging that surrounds the art rather than the art on it's own merit?
 
Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
So essentially what you're saying is is that it's almost completely to do with the blagging that surrounds the art rather than the art on it's own merit?
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Well no cos she dismissed my blagging and said she actually thinks it does this this and this. She watched it and walked away with her own interpretation of what it was about. So long as people like what you've made, they gain something from it no matter what bullshit title it has or statement it makes.

My real intention was to create a film that flows with the music and communicates the mood I feel when I listen to that music (creeped the fuck out, foreboding etc). But that wasn't on the syllabus.
 
Koyaanisqatsi is one of my fave films ever. It's perfect on Shrooms. Definitely needs to be watched on psychedelics, and on a big screen rather than in your front room

Powaqqatsi, the 2nd one is also very good

So are the scores to both

I'd be surprised if most of the psych fiends here haven't already seen it/them

Baraka, which is similar in theme, and directed by the same guy who edited the above two, is also superb

PS: tell the marker that they spelled Koyaanisqatsi incorrectly
 
Aye I've heard good things about Koyaanisqatsi. Don't think I could sit through the whole thing sober without losing interest though. I am getting some acid and mescaline soon though...Which do you reckon would be more suited to a film like that?
 
Albion said:
Well no cos she dismissed my blagging and said she actually thinks it does this this and this. She watched it and walked away with her own interpretation of what it was about. So long as people like what you've made, they gain something from it no matter what bullshit title it has or statement it makes.

My real intention was to create a film that flows with the music and communicates the mood I feel when I listen to that music (creeped the fuck out, foreboding etc). But that wasn't on the syllabus.
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So, the important thing is to put some thought into your work whilst keep the production values as high as possible so that people can feel a sense of satisfaction from interpreting it?
 
@ alby: not tried mescaline, but in theory that would possibly be way better than LSD. [edit] one canadian guy I used to chat with said he 'transcended' for a while when watching on LSD. he was an uber hipster though. cool guy regardless, and not a numpty by any stretch

shrooms are perfect though

and it's really not tiring, as movies go. even not on drugs. the score is perfect in itself. too many images of wow and awesome to ever get bored with it. it's epic in terms of cinematography. can't see how it would ever get boring. you can just zone out to it too.
 
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Mr Smokes Blunts. said:
So, the important thing is to put some thought into your work whilst keep the production values as high as possible so that people can feel a sense of satisfaction from interpreting it?
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Well that sounds like a reasonable goal to me, albeit a very superficial one. At the end of the day if you want to get anywhere with art the first hurdle is being able to craft something that people will actually enjoy and appreciate as 'art' in some form. Then you can start working on creating art with more sophisticated agendas. You can settle for simply creating aesthetically pleasing nothings that fill up hotel walls and garden ornaments, or you can learn how to communicate through art (stuff like illustration, covers everything from advertising to political propaganda to Banksy) or totally dismantle everything you've learned and go experimental and conceptual, putting more emphasis on surreality/avant-garde than fidelity and aesthetics, like Tracy Emin (I think she's shit) and Damien Hirst etc. A lot of artists in this field don't even make the art themselves, they have assistants to do it, which shows how dissociated you can get before you stop being an artist.

They're all viable pursuits and what artists value as 'the important thing' in art changes massively between the different fields in the industry.
 
Might buy me a wig and crown or some funky hat for this jubilee thingmawotsit, get mashed off my rocker wide eyes the size of apple pies and go raving dressed as the queenie
 
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